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CG
08-17-04, - 12:25 PM
i don't know a private school in the bahamas that isn't :)

Point taken! :D

Alien
08-17-04, - 04:24 PM
when you look at it....doubt is wrong!!!

but why wont anyone ever say...we may be..at least most of us...right???
sounds funny...
satanist are right in beleiving that there is a God, and his adversary..they are just on the wrong side..thats all!!
but.....
all will be revealed...
all will be settled...
ask the questions..but never ask to change history...and the history is alot of thing have been done in the name of the Lord...great things!!!

CG
08-17-04, - 06:43 PM
when you look at it....doubt is wrong!!!

Doubt is not wrong. Not doing anything about your doubts is another story. Speaking of stories, what about Doubting Thomas? He had doubts, he explored them and was satisfied. He went on to bring Christianity to India.

I have never met a person of any faith, that does not have doubts. Religions make extraordinary claims, why should one not doubt? One has to work ones way through those doubts.

but why wont anyone ever say...we may be..at least most of us...right???
sounds funny...
satanist are right in beleiving that there is a God, and his adversary..they are just on the wrong side..thats all!!
but.....
all will be revealed...
all will be settled...
Many would say you are right, in some things. Why can't the Christian offer the same thing to others?

ask the questions..but never ask to change history...and the history is alot of thing have been done in the name of the Lord...great things!!!
Yes, many great things, but also some very bad things. It is here where Christianity wants to change history.

Vicky
08-18-04, - 01:16 PM
when you look at it....doubt is wrong!!!

but why wont anyone ever say...we may be..at least most of us...right???
sounds funny...
satanist are right in beleiving that there is a God, and his adversary..they are just on the wrong side..thats all!!
but.....
all will be revealed...
all will be settled...
ask the questions..but never ask to change history...and the history is alot of thing have been done in the name of the Lord...great things!!!

History must be changed when new facts are found.
Great things from whose point of view???? I will say again the inquisitions the persecution of witches the persecution of left handed people.

Please name 1 great thing. 1 great accomplishment that is not marred with torture and murder. 1 thing that no other group could have done because they were not Christian.....

Vicky

Alien
08-28-04, - 01:14 PM
i should have said in my religion doubt is wrong....

why have doubt and you know your saviour will come through for you?

remember the story of jesus walking on water....have no fear!!!
walk with faith!!

Vicky
08-28-04, - 01:21 PM
i should have said in my religion doubt is wrong....

why have doubt and you know your saviour will come through for you?

remember the story of jesus walking on water....have no fear!!!
walk with faith!!

I repeat the question....
Please name 1 great thing. 1 great accomplishment that is not marred with torture and murder. 1 thing that no other group could have done because they were not Christian.....

Alien
08-28-04, - 01:44 PM
I repeat the question....
Please name 1 great thing. 1 great accomplishment that is not marred with torture and murder. 1 thing that no other group could have done because they were not Christian.....

i dont know where you are getting at vicky...and to be honest that question doesnt fit the statement i made!
this is what i mean when i say you wander away from the subject!!!
:realmad:

and to be honest...i dont really understand what you are trying to say anyway!!

Teniel
02-23-05, - 02:56 PM
Y2kbad every male who uses a condom or masterbates is killing human life. Every woman who has a minstrel period is killing human life.

The point here is when is it human? When is it that it can choose???

If an abortation is going to happen the stem cells should be taken.
To grow embryos just for stem cells is another question.

Being against abortion is 1 thing but I asked you once before where will you put all the children that are saved from abortion. There is a shortage of families to take them now. How many of these unwanted children will you adopt???



I know that this is an old thread, but I felt the need to respond. First of all Vicky sperm alone and egg alone do not equate to a developing human fetus. Basic biology calls for the union of these two entities, its called fertilization. Therefore sperm lost in masturbating, and eggs lost during the last 7 days of a womans menstrual cycle are just that sperm and egg, so there is no killing going on. If that was the case most women murder every month, and most men everyday :D .

Where does life begin, in my opinion at the moment of conception. It is the most vital and important step in the beginning of life. If it didnt occur none of us would be here posting. If life doesnt begin there, where does it begin?

Alien
02-24-05, - 05:33 PM
............ If that was the case most women murder every month, and most men everyday :D . .........



in some cases two or three times a day!!

Vicky
02-27-05, - 12:51 AM
I know that this is an old thread, but I felt the need to respond. First of all Vicky sperm alone and egg alone do not equate to a developing human fetus. Basic biology calls for the union of these two entities, its called fertilization. Therefore sperm lost in masturbating, and eggs lost during the last 7 days of a womans menstrual cycle are just that sperm and egg, so there is no killing going on. If that was the case most women murder every month, and most men everyday :D . Don't have to teach me I know this. But you also have to understand every human egg has the potential to be human life. Every human sperm has the potential to be human life. Every human fetus has the potential of becoming human life. The question is when does the potential human life know and value its life?

Where does life begin, in my opinion at the moment of conception. It is the most vital and important step in the beginning of life. If it didnt occur none of us would be here posting. If life doesnt begin there, where does it begin?

For me life begins at birth. A fetus is a living thing but then again so is a sperm cell.

Vicky
02-27-05, - 12:54 AM
i dont know where you are getting at vicky...and to be honest that question doesnt fit the statement i made!
this is what i mean when i say you wander away from the subject!!!
:realmad:

and to be honest...i dont really understand what you are trying to say anyway!!

Your post 62 my post 64

Teniel
02-27-05, - 10:35 AM
Don't have to teach me I know this. But you also have to understand every human egg has the potential to be human life. Every human sperm has the potential to be human life. Every human fetus has the potential of becoming human life. The question is when does the potential human life know and value its life

There is no potential until there is union of sperm and egg. A half will never make a whole.

For me life begins at birth. A fetus is a living thing but then again so is a sperm cell.


If life begins at birth, then is a fetus dead at 7 months gestation (in the womb of its mother). At that time every organ system is formed, the heart is beating elaborately, the brain is formed, the fetus is simply growing. Plants, algae, snails, and yes even sperm are living things, but they do not have life comparable to that of a human being. You cant compare a living flower and a 9 month fetus at the heiarchy of Biology, yes they are both classed as living things, but they are not equal entities.

Vicky
02-28-05, - 12:02 AM
There is no potential until there is union of sperm and egg. A half will never make a whole.
does the chicken egg have the potential of becoming a chicken???? If a chicken egg can't become a chicken what can??




If life begins at birth, then is a fetus dead at 7 months gestation (in the womb of its mother). At that time every organ system is formed, the heart is beating elaborately, the brain is formed, the fetus is simply growing. Plants, algae, snails, and yes even sperm are living things, but they do not have life comparable to that of a human being. You cant compare a living flower and a 9 month fetus at the heiarchy of Biology, yes they are both classed as living things, but they are not equal entities.

I am not saying the fetus is not alive it is just not self aware. Do you remember your life in the womb??

Teniel
02-28-05, - 12:10 AM
does the chicken egg have the potential of becoming a chicken???? If a chicken egg can't become a chicken what can??

You cant compare apples and oranges even if they are both fruit.

l_bones
03-01-05, - 12:53 AM
The world is filled with so-called “Good Things”.
Why does an HIV patient need to smoke marijuana when they can simply take a TLC shot?

Doesn't anyone think that it's a little funny that out of all the ways in the world to get TLC they want to get it from smoking marijuana?

They are just rebellious! Searching for a Kingdom that they can't find.

Y2K I like your points :tup:


Thats not TLC (tender loving care) but THC...
And how would you like to take a SHOT (wherever you want to put it) every couple of hours? and as far as I know THC can only be extracted from cannibus. I could be wrong. And whether you smoke it or inject it it's going to have the same effect...so what difference does it make if you smoke it (possession is illegal, not just smoking it)?
The medicinal benefits of marijuana have been proven for certain diseases...many governments have run many tests on the subject. But to admit that they were wrong in making it illegal would prove that the government is actually fallable.
And one last note....have you ever heard of anyone dying from a THC overdose? How many drunken driving accidents happen each day worldwide? I guarantee each day there are more drinking accidents then smoking accidents yearly.

Stem cell research is in its infancy...I say go right ahead. I am neither pro-abortion nor anti-abortion but pro CHOICE.

You don't throw away things you don't want if they can be used to help millions of people, now do you?