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Sunnyjohn
09-24-07, - 10:14 AM
Gat ya attention again! LOLOL


Ian Strachan wrote this in the Guardian. I thought it spoke to why many people stay abroad.


PLEASE READ it THEN comment... LOL!!



By: IAN STRACHAN, EAST ST. BLUES

My friend Junior just graduated and rather than come home, dude is spending every single day his visa allows in the U.S. of A. Yup, he ain comin' back 'til the date on the passport says GET OUT NOW. An' listen, dis fella ain livin' good in the States; no sir. He can't rent his own apartment and he can't insure his car. But you think he gives a rat's tush? Nope, he'd rather hustle in the US than come home and try to find a job. Just being there is a step up.

So, I ask him, "Why don't you come home? You could have a good life. Dis your country. If you gatta hustle, you might as well hustle among friends and family." His answer: "No papa. I can't take the mentality of my people."

So, the mentality of our people is what keeps my friend from wanting to live here. Should I be OK with that? I mean, I hate a lot of things about this country too, so why do I put up with it? Maybe I just like being a big fish in small pond. Maybe I'm scared to go out into a bigger sea. Maybe I like playing the hero and don't want to be just another Negro with an accent living far from "home."...

http://www.thenassauguardian.com/editorial/363508985605634.php

Ting-um
09-24-07, - 10:29 AM
Great article. I agree with most of it. But let me add a little something from my perspective which I've mention before.

Proximity.

All of the bad things that happen in the US, may never impact your life depending on where you live. It almost feels like a different country when you hear of the violence and crime, the corruption and disease, the intolerance and bigotry.

In Nassau, it is different. Everything is separated by a line. And you are on either side of that line. And everyone knows exactly what's happening on the opposite side of their lines. Kemp Road and Montague are separated by a wall. Seabreeze and Nassau Village are separated by a wall. Fox Hill and Yamacraw are barely separated at all.

So people in Nassau torn a blind eye to the intolerance, the nepotism, the injustice, the hatred, the apathy, the ineptitude - we all pretend as if it doesn't exist but it is right in your face. And nobody says anything or does anything unless it happens to them. Then they want everyone to care.

No. I don't want to live like that. I also don't want anybody else to live like that. But unless Bahamians as a group recognize what the problem is and decide its time for a change (HAHA!! There's some fodder for you) then things will remain the same.

diarra
09-24-07, - 12:30 PM
Gat ya attention again! LOLOL
Ian Strachan wrote this in the Guardian. I thought it spoke to why many people stay abroad.
PLEASE READ it THEN comment... LOL!!

Very good read indeed. I too was one who thought that I would never return home. But that is coming to a fast approaching end... Dec 14th is my last day at work over here and ya know what... I can't wait actually. I realize that although some Bahamians stay over here for the conveniences and melting pot societies, the majority of professionals stay for the chance to make instant financial gain. It's too easy to play the "well off and successful" role over here... whilst living with debt and the creditors after you. I also realize that for every professional Bahamian who says "ein nuttin back home" there are 4 or 5 professional Bahamians back home that are 5 times more successful than us living over here. The real successful "black" bahamians don't frequent the fish fry's and the like, they stay under the radar for the most part.

I have also thrown the whole "they ein ga pay ya no money" thing out of the window as well. I have found that initiative and independence can bring you success back home. I have accomplished more financially in the past 2 years doing business home than I have in the past 6 or 7 living over here...... and I did that all by making short 2 week or so trips just doing consulting work. Fact remains, we have the largest financial houses and big businesses in the world operating in the Bahamas. Most professionals start by looking to Government for a job... but like in my field of IT the opportunities are beyond tremendous. But it will require long hard hours and a lot of work.... Yeah well it ain't nothing different than the normal 10 hr or so days I get put through over here. Not even counting the commuting and stuff.

Overall I would encourage those with the chance to get the exposure and experience if they can. But if any natural born Bahamian realized what these many small to large time foreign investors realize about the Bahamas.........we would be back the day that experience is up. That simple minded mentality may exist but I feel it exists only up to a certain level in society. Any cultured business minded indivudal back home with a serious business goal will interact with you on a level better than I have experienced here in NY.

I'm just upset that it took me 13yrs to realize that.... LOL......

canewry
09-24-07, - 12:39 PM
Very good read indeed. I too was one who thought that I would never return home. But that is coming to a fast approaching end... Dec 14th is my last day at work over here and ya know what... I can't wait actually. I realize that although some Bahamians stay over here for the conveniences and melting pot societies, the majority of professionals stay for the chance to make instant financial gain. It's too easy to play the "well off and successful" role over here... whilst living with debt and the creditors after you. I also realize that for every professional Bahamian who says "ein nuttin back home" there are 4 or 5 professional Bahamians back home that are 5 times more successful than us living over here. The real successful "black" bahamians don't frequent the fish fry's and the like, they stay under the radar for the most part.
I have also thrown the whole "they ein ga pay ya no money" thing out of the window as well. I have found that initiative and independence can bring you success back home. I have accomplished more financially in the past 2 years doing business home than I have in the past 6 or 7 living over here...... and I did that all by making short 2 week or so trips just doing consulting work. Fact remains, we have the largest financial houses and big businesses in the world operating in the Bahamas. Most professionals start by looking to Government for a job... but like in my field of IT the opportunities are beyond tremendous. But it will require long hard hours and a lot of work.... Yeah well it ain't nothing different than the normal 10 hr or so days I get put through over here. Not even counting the commuting and stuff.
Overall I would encourage those with the chance to get the exposure and experience if they can. But if any natural born Bahamian realized what these many small to large time foreign investors realize about the Bahamas.........we would be back the day that experience is up. That simple minded mentality may exist but I feel it exists only up to a certain level in society. Any cultured business minded indivudal back home with a serious business goal will interact with you on a level better than I have experienced here in NY.
I'm just upset that it took me 13yrs to realize that.... LOL......

Buey you've been saying you coming back home for years...
and you aint reach yet...
You too American to return home, Nassau isn't funky enough for you.

LL Cool G
09-24-07, - 12:40 PM
it's amazing how dead-on that article is. i mean, in all honesty.....i wasn't looking forward to moving back here, either. the insulting pay was the main reason. the second, believe it or not, the tired social scene. i mean.....the club scene is not my thing....and Galleria is only so appealing.

if it weren't for my family living here.....i'd still be living up North and LOVING it.

Jer
09-24-07, - 12:43 PM
it's amazing how dead-on that article is. i mean, in all honesty.....i wasn't looking forward to moving back here, either. the insulting pay was the main reason. the second, believe it or not, the tired social scene. i mean.....the club scene is not my thing....and Galleria is only so appealing.
if it weren't for my family living here.....i'd still be living up North and LOVING it.

Where were you living?

LL Cool G
09-24-07, - 12:44 PM
Where were you living?


Toronto. *sighs.....it hurts to even type that name* :(

diarra
09-24-07, - 12:44 PM
Buey you've been saying you coming back home for years...
and you aint reach yet...
You too American to return home, Nassau isn't funky enough for you.

LOL.... bey lee me lone man. If u ein tink I coming why don't give me a ride home from da airport then. I get in at 3pm on the 14th of December (Delta). Come with a truck cus I will have 3 or so big bags (the last of my stuff that I haven't shipped home so far). And come with at least a 6 pack of Kalik and 2 scorch conch with the bubby in it. I ga pay you on the spot..................

Jer
09-24-07, - 12:45 PM
Very good read indeed. I too was one who thought that I would never return home. But that is coming to a fast approaching end... Dec 14th is my last day at work over here and ya know what... I can't wait actually. I realize that although some Bahamians stay over here for the conveniences and melting pot societies, the majority of professionals stay for the chance to make instant financial gain. It's too easy to play the "well off and successful" role over here... whilst living with debt and the creditors after you. I also realize that for every professional Bahamian who says "ein nuttin back home" there are 4 or 5 professional Bahamians back home that are 5 times more successful than us living over here. The real successful "black" bahamians don't frequent the fish fry's and the like, they stay under the radar for the most part.
I have also thrown the whole "they ein ga pay ya no money" thing out of the window as well. I have found that initiative and independence can bring you success back home. I have accomplished more financially in the past 2 years doing business home than I have in the past 6 or 7 living over here...... and I did that all by making short 2 week or so trips just doing consulting work. Fact remains, we have the largest financial houses and big businesses in the world operating in the Bahamas. Most professionals start by looking to Government for a job... but like in my field of IT the opportunities are beyond tremendous. But it will require long hard hours and a lot of work.... Yeah well it ain't nothing different than the normal 10 hr or so days I get put through over here. Not even counting the commuting and stuff.
Overall I would encourage those with the chance to get the exposure and experience if they can. But if any natural born Bahamian realized what these many small to large time foreign investors realize about the Bahamas.........we would be back the day that experience is up. That simple minded mentality may exist but I feel it exists only up to a certain level in society. Any cultured business minded indivudal back home with a serious business goal will interact with you on a level better than I have experienced here in NY.
I'm just upset that it took me 13yrs to realize that.... LOL......

I hope your not going to be one of the many that come home and then leave in 5 years b/c you havent 'made it.'

Jer
09-24-07, - 12:46 PM
Toronto. *sighs.....it hurts to even type that name* :(

Why does it hurt? You liked it up there huh?

LL Cool G
09-24-07, - 12:47 PM
Why does it hurt? You liked it up there huh?


Loved it. Considered marrying a Canadian & all. lol.

Jer
09-24-07, - 12:48 PM
Loved it. Considered marrying a Canadian & all. lol.

You can always go back I guess. I liked Toronto.....to expensive though.

LL Cool G
09-24-07, - 12:50 PM
You can always go back I guess. I liked Toronto.....to expensive though.


Someday. AFTER i've made my first million. Toronto IS expensive....and even more obviously so, now that the Canadian dollar has risen.

diarra
09-24-07, - 12:50 PM
I hope your not going to be one of the many that come home and then leave in 5 years b/c you havent 'made it.'

i doubt it. Will move to the Island before I do that. I have no problem fishinin .... LOL. But I doubt it tho. Besides it's just as hard to "make it" over here as a foreigner with a green card or sumtin like that. I keep telling folks yeah you may make 80K in salary but which state do you live in, how are taxes, cost of living affecting that salary. Under 100K in NY is a middle class individual. 60K here is close to making 30K or so home, then you have sometimes a 2hr commute on the subway or some other form of mass transportation...... I could go on and on.......can't get a crack conch when ya want, can't get no conch salad ... Kalik.... crawfish........ oh boy oh boy.

Ting-um
09-24-07, - 01:09 PM
^That's why I live in Little Rock, Arkansas!!!!

Making under or around 100k is living like a KING!!!! You can get a 3,500 sq foot house for about 200k!!! That means that the only about 15 to 20 percent of my salary goes to housing. Another 20 percent to bills. Then I have 45 to 50 percent of my salary to save, slurge or send home. People in NYC, Chicago and LA making under or around 100k are living from check to check. Thing is, we do the same job and get the same experience. When they get promoted to 200k, so will I. And then I could move to NYC or Chicago if I get tired of Arkansas.