Let me state for the record that I am striaght! I love woman! Always have, always will! I have no interest in how the other half lives!

That being said, I find it to be "pure and utter none sense" that any of us thinks that we have the right to tell anyone else how to live, much less call for any kind of ban on anyone's livestyle.

We must consider the fact that this is a democratic society and in such a society, everyone has the right to choose to do whatever they want as long as it is within the rule the laws that govern that country.

If a person decides to be gay, that is their choice. I or anyone for that matter may disagree, but that does not give me the right to tell them that they are wrong. While my principles that guide me away from this type of lifestyles are based on religion, I must always consider that the same democracy that gave me the right to choose Christianity as my religion and guiding force, is the same democracry that gives someone the right to not choose a religion at all. What guides my belief system may not be a factor in some other persons lifestyle decision. This is not to say that gay people dont believe in God, this is merely an attempt to get people to look at this from other angles.

When you as a social activist or church try to ban lifestyles or take away the same freedoms that gave to the right to choose to be religious from others based solely on your disapproval of what you claim to be wrong, you make yourselves out to be hypocrites.

And that is what we have, a nation of hypocrites. Clever Duncombe and The Christian Council, what if someone told you guys to shut up because you were straight? What if the shoe is one the other foot? What would you say to that?

Let me state for the record that I am striaght! I love woman! Always have, always will! I have no interest in how the other half lives!
That being said, I find it to be "pure and utter none sense" that any of us thinks that we have the right to tell anyone else how to live, much less call for any kind of ban on anyone's livestyle.
We must consider the fact that this is a democratic society and in such a society, everyone has the right to choose to do whatever they want as long as it is within the rule the laws that govern that country.
If a person decides to be gay, that is their choice. I or anyone for that matter may disagree, but that does not give me the right to tell them that they are wrong. While my principles that guide me away from this type of lifestyles are based on religion, I must always consider that the same democracy that gave me the right to choose Christianity as my religion and guiding force, is the same democracry that gives someone the right to not choose a religion at all. What guides my belief system may not be a factor in some other persons lifestyle decision. This is not to say that gay people dont believe in God, this is merely an attempt to get people to look at this from other angles.
When you as a social activist or church try to ban lifestyles or take away the same freedoms that gave to the right to choose to be religious from others based solely on your disapproval of what you claim to be wrong, you make yourselves out to be hypocrites.
And that is what we have, a nation of hypocrites. Clever Duncombe and The Christian Council, what if someone told you guys to shut up because you were straight? What if the shoe is one the other foot? What would you say to that?

A very sobering view..
Someone need to tell Clever Duncombe to stop smokin dope.....Now thats illegal

Who is Clever Duncombe???

Am I the only one who burst out laughing at the irony of his name this morning? Named "Clever" and spoutin off lone garbage.

I totally agree with you.

Who is Clever Duncombe???


He is a "so-called" Social Activist that wanted equal rights for fathers. Then he ran in the general election and lost, didnt even get his deposit back. No someone made him the authority on what to call bans on!

His name sounds "Clever" but it is pronouced "Clee-ver!"

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

If you read that bolded section, guess what else is listed: the sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, slandarers and swindlers.

What is the Christian Councils position on these "wicked people". These tags apply to more Bahamians than homosexuality, but where are the task forces being formed against these ills of our society.

Modern day Pharisees is all they are.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
If you read that bolded section, guess what else is listed: the sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, slandarers and swindlers.
What is the Christian Councils position on these "wicked people". These tags apply to more Bahamians than homosexuality, but where are the task forces being formed against these ills of our society.
Modern day Pharisees is all they are.


Good point but here is another one there was no word for homosexual back then so how is it in the Bible.
Read it in context.
1 Corinthians 6:1-11 (King James Version)
1Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

2Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

3Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

4If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

5I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

6But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

7Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

8Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.

9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

HHHhhhhmmmm where did the word homosexual go.

It also says that it is any one elses right to judge. But the Saints not God the Creator or Jesus will judge us. Some how I always thought it was God the Creators Judgement. Not Dead men who the Vatacan calls saints.

Again Pauls shows he is a false profit.

Daniel 1:9 (King James Version)
9Now God had brought Daniel into favour and tender love with the prince of the eunuchs.

I will guess the prince is a female or was Daniel female??. Oh and BTW it does not say that the prince was a eunuch.
Lets wonder what tender love is.

Let me state for the record that I am striaght! I love woman! Always have, always will! I have no interest in how the other half lives!
That being said, I find it to be "pure and utter none sense" that any of us thinks that we have the right to tell anyone else how to live, much less call for any kind of ban on anyone's livestyle.
We must consider the fact that this is a democratic society and in such a society, everyone has the right to choose to do whatever they want as long as it is within the rule the laws that govern that country.
If a person decides to be gay, that is their choice. I or anyone for that matter may disagree, but that does not give me the right to tell them that they are wrong. While my principles that guide me away from this type of lifestyles are based on religion, I must always consider that the same democracy that gave me the right to choose Christianity as my religion and guiding force, is the same democracry that gives someone the right to not choose a religion at all. What guides my belief system may not be a factor in some other persons lifestyle decision. This is not to say that gay people dont believe in God, this is merely an attempt to get people to look at this from other angles.
When you as a social activist or church try to ban lifestyles or take away the same freedoms that gave to the right to choose to be religious from others based solely on your disapproval of what you claim to be wrong, you make yourselves out to be hypocrites.
And that is what we have, a nation of hypocrites. Clever Duncombe and The Christian Council, what if someone told you guys to shut up because you were straight? What if the shoe is one the other foot? What would you say to that?

Very good post except for "If a person decides to be gay" Medical science states it is not a choice.

What's shocking in all this, is the same persons calling for bans on this and other lifestyles, that does not follow theirs .. is the same people that only a few decades back would have had a problem just going to the local movie theater, for the same misguided reasons. They must have skipped history class back in school, or just skipped a few hundred years or so and went right back to them Bible times :sailing:

Its ironic how we throw out the rule of law when it suits our purpose. :gi:

Its ironic how we throw out the rule of law when it suits our purpose. :gi:

which law

Very good post except for "If a person decides to be gay" Medical science states it is not a choice.

true, but this debate of "choice vs birth" always amazed me in it's futility especially when issues such as this "ban" is concerned. What two consenting adults do in private should not be of anyone else's concern whether they choose to do so or is a result of how they were born, IMHO. I'm not really arguing what you said, it just bothered me a long time to see may gay activists get involved in a back-and-forth "born" or "choose" debate with some *******.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


Okay! You choose to address this from a spiritual standpoint. I respect that. To be religious and that that approach is your right. You have that freedom to choose this avenue to express your views. However, consider for a moment: What if those who may oppose your views are not of your religious or faith based convictions?

Maybe those who oppose your views are not concerned about the Kingdom Of God because as far as they are concerned, they have the right - [ the same right that you had to believe that there is ] - that there is no such Kingdom.

Consider that!

This is not an attack on homosexuals (gay or lesbian). This is an attack on the hypocrites that call for bans on lifestyles of portions of the society whose ideals do not fall in line with what they (the ban callers) believe is right. Our country is young and to some extent, still very impressionable. We are still searching for an identity, something that the world will associate with what it is to be Bahamian. You never get a second chance to make a first impression. Let us not allow that impression we give to world be a "The Bahamas - a nation of hypocrites".

Let us respect others right to choose whatever they want to no matter how much we disagree and lets come up with ways to deal with it that do not involve imposing our beliefs on others. Take the high road, not the hypocrite road!

true, but this debate of "choice vs birth" always amazed me in it's futility especially when issues such as this "ban" is concerned. What two consenting adults do in private should not be of anyone else's concern whether they choose to do so or is a result of how they were born, IMHO. I'm not really arguing what you said, it just bothered me a long time to see may gay activists get involved in a back-and-forth "born" or "choose" debate with some *******.



Yeah, i think its like "Nature" Vs. "Nurture"