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bahamianpride
12-11-07, - 04:14 PM
December 11, 2007, 2:03 pm - New York Times
http://tierneylab. blogs.nytimes. com/2007/ 12/11/turning- homosexuality- on-and-off/ ?hp
Turning Homosexuality On and Off
By John Tierney

Tags: bioethics, homosexuality

What if you could take a drug that would quickly alter your sexual orientation from straight to gay, or vice versa?

To their surprise, neurobiologists have discovered that homosexuality can be turned on or off in fruit flies. They’d known that sexual orientation can be genetically programmed, but they didn’t realize it could also be altered by giving a drug that changes the way the flies’ sensory circuits react to pheromones.

Within hours of the treatment, previously heterosexual male fruit flies would be courting other males, and treatment could also cause flies who had been engaging in homosexual behavior to become exclusively heterosexual, the neurobiologists report in Nature Neuroscience. You can read a summary of it here from the University of Illinois at Chicago, the home of one of the researchers, David Firestone.

“It was amazing,” Dr. Firestone said. “I never thought we’d be able to do that sort of thing, because sexual orientation is supposed to be hard-wired. This fundamentally changes how we think about this behavior.”

I asked Dr. Firestone if it might be possible one day to quickly alter humans’ sexual orientation. Here’s his answer:

Although I am not sure my research is a big step in this direction, I think that ultimately the answer will be: Yes. After all, the goal of neuroscience is a complete understanding of brain function. Understanding in science is typically demonstrated by the ability to control a process.

This morning, I received an email from a transsexual 5 years into her hormone therapy. She told me she regularly modifies her libido and orientation with diet and drugs. She even sent me a scientific reference explaining why her regimen might work. Now that is amazing research.

The question of whether or not homosexuality should be turned on and off is not a scientific question. It is an ethical/societal dilemma. I am glad my work is stimulating the discussion earlier rather than later. History is replete with poorly thought out attempts to ‘cure’ societal/behavioral ‘illnesses’ that turned out, with proper perspective, to not be ‘illnesses’ at all.

So let the discussion begin. I don’t think of homosexuality or heterosexuality as an “illness” to be “cured,” but I wonder how people would use the ability to control sexual orientation — to have a designer libido. Would some people, gay or straight, who weren’t having luck attracting one gender decide to switch to the other? Would some people casually switch back and forth?

Would some social conservatives (like Leon Kass), who normally object to biologists “playing god” and pharmacologists altering “human nature,” change their minds and urge the use of biotechnology to promote heterosexuality? Would some social liberals try to restrict the use of this biotechnology? Would parents, gay or straight, want to regulate their children’s sexual orientation — and should they or their children be allowed to do so?

wide eye
12-11-07, - 04:17 PM
It seems we on BI talk about gay issues alot, maybe to much as it really is getting boring, maybe try and move your cause forward in some other fashion if there is any other way. Not bashing just tierd of reading about it!

blacksheep
12-11-07, - 04:18 PM
December 11, 2007, 2:03 pm - New York Times
http://tierneylab. blogs.nytimes. com/2007/ 12/11/turning- homosexuality- on-and-off/ ?hp
Turning Homosexuality On and Off
By John Tierney
Tags: bioethics, homosexuality
What if you could take a drug that would quickly alter your sexual orientation from straight to gay, or vice versa?
To their surprise, neurobiologists have discovered that homosexuality can be turned on or off in fruit flies. They’d known that sexual orientation can be genetically programmed, but they didn’t realize it could also be altered by giving a drug that changes the way the flies’ sensory circuits react to pheromones.
Within hours of the treatment, previously heterosexual male fruit flies would be courting other males, and treatment could also cause flies who had been engaging in homosexual behavior to become exclusively heterosexual, the neurobiologists report in Nature Neuroscience. You can read a summary of it here from the University of Illinois at Chicago, the home of one of the researchers, David Firestone.
“It was amazing,” Dr. Firestone said. “I never thought we’d be able to do that sort of thing, because sexual orientation is supposed to be hard-wired. This fundamentally changes how we think about this behavior.”
I asked Dr. Firestone if it might be possible one day to quickly alter humans’ sexual orientation. Here’s his answer:
Although I am not sure my research is a big step in this direction, I think that ultimately the answer will be: Yes. After all, the goal of neuroscience is a complete understanding of brain function. Understanding in science is typically demonstrated by the ability to control a process.
This morning, I received an email from a transsexual 5 years into her hormone therapy. She told me she regularly modifies her libido and orientation with diet and drugs. She even sent me a scientific reference explaining why her regimen might work. Now that is amazing research.
The question of whether or not homosexuality should be turned on and off is not a scientific question. It is an ethical/societal dilemma. I am glad my work is stimulating the discussion earlier rather than later. History is replete with poorly thought out attempts to ‘cure’ societal/behavioral ‘illnesses’ that turned out, with proper perspective, to not be ‘illnesses’ at all.
So let the discussion begin. I don’t think of homosexuality or heterosexuality as an “illness” to be “cured,” but I wonder how people would use the ability to control sexual orientation — to have a designer libido. Would some people, gay or straight, who weren’t having luck attracting one gender decide to switch to the other? Would some people casually switch back and forth?
Would some social conservatives (like Leon Kass), who normally object to biologists “playing god” and pharmacologists altering “human nature,” change their minds and urge the use of biotechnology to promote heterosexuality? Would some social liberals try to restrict the use of this biotechnology? Would parents, gay or straight, want to regulate their children’s sexual orientation — and should they or their children be allowed to do so?

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adidasboi987
12-11-07, - 04:22 PM
It seems we on BI talk about gay issues alot, maybe to much as it really is getting boring, maybe try and move your cause forward in some other fashion if there is any other way. Not bashing just tierd of reading about it!

the solution is easy then hey?...

bahamianpride
12-11-07, - 04:24 PM
It seems we on BI talk about gay issues alot, maybe to much as it really is getting boring, maybe try and move your cause forward in some other fashion if there is any other way. Not bashing just tierd of reading about it!

are you serious...
try not reading it...
this one would have been easy...
it even has homosexuality in the title...
didn't that give you an effing clue...

or do you have poor impulse control...
are you into S and M is that it...you like torture...

this is something so simple...
you don't have to read the threads that frighten you...
anger you...make you despair...

JUST DON'T READ THEM

wide eye
12-11-07, - 04:25 PM
the solution is easy then hey?...

Never said that! But I will say this it is almost like the little boy who cried wolf except it is the GLBT community here that just keeps hitting us with BLAH, BLAH,BLAH.I get the message but I am sick of heareing it!

FACTS ONLY
12-11-07, - 04:26 PM
are you serious...
try not reading it...
this one would have been easy...
it even has homosexuality in the title...
didn't that give you an effing clue...
or do you have poor impulse control...
are you into S and M is that it...you like torture...
this is something so simple...
you don't have to read the threads that frighten you...
anger you...make you despair...
JUST DON'T READ THEM



:hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: LMAO...............That was a good one gal!!

wide eye
12-11-07, - 04:26 PM
are you serious...
try not reading it...
this one would have been easy...
it even has homosexuality in the title...
didn't that give you an effing clue...
or do you have poor impulse control...
are you into S and M is that it...you like torture...
this is something so simple...
you don't have to read the threads that frighten you...
anger you...make you despair...
JUST DON'T READ THEM


STOP BOMBARDING US WITH THEM! And work on that anger thing, it's not healthy!

adidasboi987
12-11-07, - 04:29 PM
Never said that! But I will say this it is almost like the little boy who cried wolf except it is the GLBT community here that just keeps hitting us with BLAH, BLAH,BLAH.I get the message but I am sick of heareing it!

my sentiment is basically the same as the one above you....im glad we are able to have gotten the message across to YOU...but dont b so arrogant to think that everything revolves around you and how you feel...no offence but just dont read it....its for those who have an interest in reading...

Akrizia
12-11-07, - 04:41 PM
It seems we on BI talk about gay issues alot, maybe to much as it really is getting boring, maybe try and move your cause forward in some other fashion if there is any other way. Not bashing just tierd of reading about it!


So totally agree with you. Are two biggest topics are gays and politcs, its becoming annoying.

WinterGrace
12-11-07, - 04:45 PM
It seems we on BI talk about gay issues alot, maybe to much as it really is getting boring, maybe try and move your cause forward in some other fashion if there is any other way. Not bashing just tierd of reading about it!


That's because you have a bunch of gays and gay sympathizers on this site, it becomes a problem when they demand you have the exact same views as they do, they tend to force that gay issue right down ya throat!!!

sly man
12-11-07, - 04:48 PM
sound like a war is going to start now!:D

Akrizia
12-11-07, - 04:50 PM
LOL, you see that aye, lol.

adidasboi987
12-11-07, - 04:52 PM
That's because you have a bunch of gays and gay sympathizers on this site, it becomes a problem when they demand you have the exact same views as they do.

this is a forum...everyone that signed up, did so with the understanding that they would face opposing views...with this understanding i expect t challeneged on my opinions...what it is that i DEMAND though is respect...as is outlined in the forum rules...I think we should all re-read them...some pretty interesting stuff....

tht being said...if I post 100 articles on gay issues it is my right to do so...you have a right to disagree...but to, when I do post to say that you are tired of reading it makes absolutely NO sense to me...as if a gun was placed to our heads to read each article placed onthis site....

when i see certain keywords...or even when i see certain members create a thread i simply dont read it...

adidasboi987
12-11-07, - 04:54 PM
now may i suggest that the suture post (in this thread) be directly related to the article??...is that fair??...or is that some special privelege i, as a gay person am demanding??