I needed some time to digest this topic before I presented it as an issue on this website. It seems that mankind is ignoring the second commandment of God that says “You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or the water under the earth. It seems that man wants to play God.

Human cloning is not surprising to me at all, what surprised me was when it was reported by the Nassau Guardian and other international News medias that this very seem Cult lead organization ( Clonaid ) was registered as a company in the Bahamas in 1997. This is embarrassing.

Although this company has since been taken off of the registry in the Bahamas we have not been spared by the international media by them continuing to announce that Clonaid is a “Bahamas Based Company”. Why do they do this? Jesus said it best in John 15:19, “ the world loves it own “.

The world is watching the Bahamas as much as God is but they are watching for a different reason. We have become prey to a vicious, unrelenting predator and the decisions that anyone that bares the title “Bahamian” makes affects all of us.
“We are all on the same boat”!

We must be very careful of who we allow to operate in our country and I feel that a full review of 'All' registered companies in the Bahamas needs to be done. Not just Banks and Security Firms but all companies.

What are your feelings on this issue?

Read this Rory:

http://www.thenassauguardian.net/editorial/286560448870729.php

Well forgive me for supporting a Bahamian Newspaper:

Here is CNN's report:
http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/06/29/cloning.lab/

Read the eight paragraph.
I will get MSNBC's later.
Do I need the BBC's also? :confused:

The issue here isn't just Clonaid.
They aren't here anymore.

The real issue is whether a full review of 'All' registered companies in the Bahamas needs to be done.

I agree that this should have already been made against the law in this country.

But from what I've read, the company was mysteriously removed from our registry four months later. I guess someone caught on to what was going on at Clonaid or should I say "Valiant Venture Ltd". What I am curious to know is why are we just receiving this information five years later?

Bahamas Figured In Cloned Human Claims
12/30/02
By Candia Dames

candiadames@hotmail.com


The cloning company, Clonaid, was once a little-known operation that has its genesis in the Bahamas. It was in the Bahamas that company officials claim they put into motion a plan that would eventually stun scientists, religious leaders and government officials the world over.

Today, the cloning company is grabbing international headlines, making a groundbreaking claim that has yet to be verified.
Chief Executive Officer of Clonaid Bridgette Boisselier, a French scientist, announced to the world Friday that her company has cloned a baby girl.
That company was founded by a religious sect that believes space aliens created the first human beings using scientific technology.

Clonaid was founded by a former French Journalist, Claude Vorilhon, who now goes by the name Rael, leader of the Raelians. Rael claims that a space alien visited him in 1973 and revealed that extraterrestrials had created all life on earth through genetic engineering.

"I do have some reservations as I am not a Christian. I don't believe in God," Bosselier told the Bahama Journal in an earlier interview. "I believe we were created by scientists and science is my religion. As a Raelian, to me it is very important to proceed to make sure this cloning happens and it's well done and that we can show humanity that it's a very healthy baby."
The Raelians had hoped that they would have carried out this scientific breakthrough from the Bahamas. But that did not happen.

"Back in 1997 when Rael founded Clonaid, he decided to open a company in the Bahamas. As you know, it is quite easy to do so," Bosselier said. "And so, we had something for a few months, but it was only the starting of a company over there."
She said a year after the company started in the Bahamas, the Bahamian government shut it down after French journalists questioned how the Bahamas could support the operation of a company that planned to clone human beings.
"We were cancelled in 1998. So, the company doesn't exist anymore in the Bahamas and we never had anything in the Bahamas, except the preliminary existence of the company," she said.

"It was quite something to think that the Bahamian government, which is famous for accepting so many foreign companies, could shut down one company because it was something new in this [field]. I was quite surprised."
Boisselier said that she received reports that some couples came to the Bahamas in recent times in search of Clonaid. She said that's because they thought the company still operated from here.
"So you probably have visitors because of us," she said.
Many foreign media reports today still refer to Clonaid as a Bahamian-registered company.

The company operates from a secret location that is outside of the Bahamas and outside of the United States, she said.
Bosselier said the closing of the company in the Bahamas was only a minor hurdle.

"I don't have to be disappointed. I don't have time for that. I'm just moving on," she said.
When the Bahama Journal caught up with her some months back, she said she was determined to produce the first human clone.

"We're trying to produce the first human clone and this should happen very soon," she said at the time.
Bosselier said she refused to believe that such "a basic and important scientific fact could be stopped for religious reasons or for ethical reasons."

She said that she was determined to use this advancement in science "for the best and not for the worse."
Bosselier said yesterday that the cloned baby girl, Eve, and her family were due to arrive in the United States today.
She has reportedly agreed for independent experts to extract DNA from the mother and the newborn baby girl to see if there is a match.

Should her claims prove to be anything but a hoax, Bosselier and her company would have embarked on a scientific voyage that could change the present course of humankind.

While scientists the world over continue to express scepticism, concern and even outrage over Clonaid's recent announcement, the group said its aim is to create immortality for the human race.
Clonaid's claim last Friday sent tongues wagging and sparked a rash of reactions from philosophers to Members of Congress in the United States. U.S. President Bush also said in a statement over the weekend that he would support legislation banning human cloning.

Some Bahamian religious leaders, when contacted, by the Bahama Journal also spoke to the controversial issue.
Senior pastor at New Covenant Baptist Church Bishop Simeon Hall said it was too soon to determine if the scientific breakthrough will have any positive effects.
Pastor T. G. Morrison of Zion Baptist Church added that human cloning is an attempt by humanity to dabble in the things that belong to God.

But Bosselier and her group insist that human cloning should be embraced by humanity as it the true path to eternal life.
She once told the Journal, "I do believe that one day, not only will we be able to clone ourselves and have our twin sister or brother, but we will also be able to download into that new body our own personality. In doing that, we could reach eternal life on this planet. I do believe that this is our paradise."

www.Bahamian.web.com

"Senior pastor at New Covenant Baptist Church Bishop Simeon Hall said it was too soon to determine if the scientific breakthrough will have any positive effects."
Noting that comes from satan or his followers can have a positive effect.

Thank you for the article zephyr.

It a pleasure to have provided it my friend... and to take part in the interesting discussion at hand...

Zephyr
www.zephyr.web.com



Originally posted by Delroy
Noting that comes from satan or his followers can have a positive effect.

Thank you for the article zephyr.

That is just terrible.

They talked about already doing as much as two babies already.

That is so unGodly. Men are taking life into their own hands and that's wrong.

Who would wanna live here on earth eternally? No rewards for the life lived, (meaning after death).

Well, proves that hey, God is ready to return.

Until next time folks......

There are many great men and women that have made sustantial scientific contributions to mankind who were not christians or believe in God eg. Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin to name a few Religion has always stood in the way of scientific progress with the excuse that man should not be playing God. So many of you writers take for granted what the bible says as truth and fact that I have to wonder which planet you live on.
Cloning should not be made unlawful in this country because if offends your biblical sensibilities. Take a look at both sides of the issue and make a rational decision before you go spouting of about God. No where in the bible did it command us not to clone one another. There are lifesaving medical benefits to cloning that scientist are beginning to understand. We should not throw away this golden opportunity if its going to prevent or cure deseases or dare I say bring us immortality. If human cloning doesn't happen here it is going to happen somewhere else and believe you me there are going to be enormous benefits for mankind. Isn't 2000 years long enough for you to still be waiting for the end of the world and the return of Jesus Christ,

Originally posted by Ryan
There are many great men and women that have made sustantial scientific contributions to mankind who were not christians or believe in God eg. Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin to name a few Religion has always stood in the way of scientific progress with the excuse that man should not be playing God. So many of you writers take for granted what the bible says as truth and fact that I have to wonder which planet you live on.
Cloning should not be made unlawful in this country because if offends your biblical sensibilities. Take a look at both sides of the issue and make a rational decision before you go spouting of about God. No where in the bible did it command us not to clone one another. There are lifesaving medical benefits to cloning that scientist are beginning to understand. We should not throw away this golden opportunity if its going to prevent or cure deseases or dare I say bring us immortality. If human cloning doesn't happen here it is going to happen somewhere else and believe you me there are going to be enormous benefits for mankind. Isn't 2000 years long enough for you to still be waiting for the end of the world and the return of Jesus Christ,
:dancer2:

Wow! Someone else who realizes that it is time to give up on these old myths and stories we call religion.

Time and time again the church has tried to stop science from progressing forward because it conflicts with their stories of gods and miracles. Let us look back upon the history of the world. We will see Chris Columbus fighting against the church with his claim of a spherical planet. The great Sir Isaac Newton was discouraged from conducting his gravity experiments because it contradicted the churches beliefs. Then there are the old favourites, like the church feebly clinging to its claims of "creation", when it becomes more and more obvious that evolutionary science is more credible.

I will leave you with a quote from perhaps the greatest intellectual of this century. A funny old man named Al.

I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension, such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls.

- Albert Einstein, In Religion
:D