My questions relate to the death of Officer Ramos Williams.

1.....Is it customary for an officer to approach a car whose occupants were acting suspiously?

2....If yes, would one officer approach the car or more than one?

3....Did the car officer Williams was in have a microphone?

4....Could it have been a case of bad judgement on officer Williams's part? (Just asking)

5....Could his age have played a part in him approching the car? (Just asking)

6....Are ALL of the occupants in the car as culpable as the shooter?

7....At least 2 of the men in the car who got away turned themselves in, at least according to the news. Was that true?

8....If true, why would they have been beaten like at least one said he was, and why was his lawyer not allowed to sit in on his interview?

9....One officer is dead. Why would any other officer jeapodise the case against the accused by acted the way they did? If true, as the lawyer said, she was verbally abused by two officers.
Lawyer Romana Farquharson claims she was verbally abused by ASP Leon Bethel and Sargent Anton Rahming.

Don't take offense, I'm asking the same questions the man on the streets and SOME police officers are asking.

I heard one say to a man in the foodstore yesterday, "there is NO WAY I'm going to walk up to a car these days. The occupants will have to come out with their hands up."

I have forwarded your questions to police officers and will await their response.

It is customary to approach vehicles how ever they are acting that is the standard procedure.

I have forwarded your questions to police officers and will await their response.
It is customary to approach vehicles how ever they are acting that is the standard procedure.



Excuse my asking, but, does that make sense?

Would YOU do it?

This is 2008, how old is this STANDARD PROCEDURE?

My questions relate to the death of Officer Ramos Williams.
1.....Is it customary for an officer to approach a car whose occupants were acting suspiously?
2....If yes, would one officer approach the car or more than one?
3....Did the car officer Williams was in have a microphone?
4....Could it have been a case of bad judgement on officer Williams's part? (Just asking)
5....Could his age have played a part in him approching the car? (Just asking)
6....Are ALL of the occupants in the car as culpable as the shooter?
7....At least 2 of the men in the car who got away turned themselves in, at least according to the news. Was that true?
8....If true, why would they have been beaten like at least one said he was, and why was his lawyer not allowed to sit in on his interview?
9....One officer is dead. Why would any other officer jeapodise the case against the accused by acted the way they did? If true, as the lawyer said, she was verbally abused by two officers.
Lawyer Romana Farquharson claims she was verbally abused by ASP Leon Bethel and Sargent Anton Rahming.
Don't take offense, I'm asking the same questions the man on the streets and SOME police officers are asking.
I heard one say to a man in the foodstore yesterday, "there is NO WAY I'm going to walk up to a car these days. The occupants will have to come out with their hands up."


I have forwarded your questions to police officers and will await their response.

My thoughts are ..........

It is customary to approach vehicles how ever they are acting that is the standard procedure.

There were three officers in the police vehicle that was clearly marked.

That car has no microphones but the lights on top indicated that it was a police car and they were on.

One can not second guess an officer as we don't know the circumstances that surrounded the events.

As he was not alone and there were more senior and seasoned officers with him.... age would not have been a factor

If a crime was committed and you were there with the shooter and was concerned together you would be charged as well.....

According tothe news they were charged already......what do you think....

It is a Lawyers job to get his client off.. they will use anything and all things available to strengthen their side......

I don't think persons are getting offended by your questions its just that to ask the police to second guess at a time like this is insensitive to them as an organization.

The truth will come out...remember this is a court matter now and no well thinking police will give you any info that may jeopardize this case.

Excuse my asking, but, does that make sense?
Would YOU do it?
This is 2008, how old is this STANDARD PROCEDURE?

sorry about that incomplete posting....i hit a button by mistake.

My questions relate to the death of Officer Ramos Williams.
1.....Is it customary for an officer to approach a car whose occupants were acting suspiously?

Ans: It is customary but it is WRONG. They are taught in training the proper approach but then get lax and thing when they get out there on the streets.
2....If yes, would one officer approach the car or more than one?

Ans: What should have happened is that once the vehicle stopped, the officer on the mic should have directed the driver to throw his keys out of the window, get out the car and walk backwards towards the police car with his hands in plain sight. Once he got close enough an officer (not the driver, who should be the one on the mic) should have approached the driver, searched him and secured him in the back of the police car and the same procedure followed (minus throwing the keys) for all the passengers. Then the driver should be taken back out of the car and go with the officers while they search his vehicle. (This is the short version minus many details)
3....Did the car officer Williams was in have a microphone?

Ans: It should have. The question should be, Was it working?
4....Could it have been a case of bad judgement on officer Williams's part? (Just asking)

Split second decisions are always judged harshly in hind sight. If I have the story right he ran after one of the suspects after there had been an exchange of gunfire. In usual circumstance, the criminal would have dropped (thrown away) the gun in the chase hoping not to be caught with the weapon. This one did not. He took a big chance. Like police do every day. Im sure there were times when he caught the guy....never hear those stories tho eh?
5....Could his age have played a part in him approching the car? (Just asking)

No his age is nothing to do with it. Just lax habits developed and adopted by officers as they spend more time in the job.
6....Are ALL of the occupants in the car as culpable as the shooter?

Yes and No. There was an exchange of gunfire and the suspects opened fire first. So they are already in possession of unlicenced weapon and ammunition. Assault, attempted murder etc. The one who pulled the trigger on Williams is the one who will go down for murder. I hear there is one guy (the one captured at the scene) who said he was alseep in the car and had nothing to do with the shooting and did not run...we shall see
7....At least 2 of the men in the car who got away turned themselves in, at least according to the news. Was that true?

Yes two turned themself in. They knew one of their number was in custody so either they did not have the ways and means to run or they felt that since they aint shoot the police then they ga take they punishment. Dey ga get bail anyhow eh?
8....If true, why would they have been beaten like at least one said he was, and why was his lawyer not allowed to sit in on his interview?

The last one is the shooter who they had to go look for. He aint turn his self in. I dont know that he was beaten. I know the detectives would be aware with the climate at this time, people would be looking for them to beat him so they probably did not. Then B******S was in protective custody.
9....One officer is dead. Why would any other officer jeapodise the case against the accused by acted the way they did? If true, as the lawyer said, she was verbally abused by two officers.

Im sure she was talked to bad. Sure of it. Now what was her attitued to begin with I dont know. Plus dis aint the states. That lawyer come to see they client and you must stop what you doing so they could talk crap dont fly here. If the detectives was questioning them at the time she was pose to wait till they finish..nah if she talk fool cause of that then.......
Lawyer Romana Farquharson claims she was verbally abused by ASP Leon Bethel and Sargent Anton Rahming.
Don't take offense, I'm asking the same questions the man on the streets and SOME police officers are asking.
I heard one say to a man in the foodstore yesterday, "there is NO WAY I'm going to walk up to a car these days. The occupants will have to come out with their hands up."


Hope that answers those for ya.

I have forwarded your questions to police officers and will await their response.
My thoughts are ..........
It is customary to approach vehicles how ever they are acting that is the standard procedure.
There were three officers in the police vehicle that was clearly marked.
That car has no microphones but the lights on top indicated that it was a police car and they were on.
One can not second guess an officer as we don't know the circumstances that surrounded the events.
As he was not alone and there were more senior and seasoned officers with him.... age would not have been a factor
If a crime was committed and you were there with the shooter and was concered together you would be charged as well.....
According tothe news they were charged already......what do you think....
It is a Lawyers job to get his client off.. they will use anything and all things available to strengthen their side......
I don't think persons are getting offended by your questions its just that to ask the police to second guess at a time like this is insensitive to them as an organization.
The truth will come out...remember this is a court matter now and no well thinking police will give you any info that may jeopardize this case.



I was watching CNN a while ago, it seems like an inmate was able to get the guns of two guards and shoot one. (not sure as I was listening to two things at the same time)

One of the first question the reporter asked was about the guards conduct. Did they let their guards down? That type of questioning.

What do you call second guessing? No matter what the circumstances one ALWAYS want to know the WHY, WHEN, HOW and... you know the rest. How will any of my questions jeapodise this or any case?

I am in no way being insensitive. I have close relatives and friends who are officers.

Hope that answers those for ya.



Yep it did. I'm SURE you know what type of comments are being said on the streets and some by officers.

:rip: officer Williams

Hope that answers those for ya.


You may not agree with the legal proceeding in the USA regarding client lawyer privileges, but I am certain it is there for very good reasons and it works. Far too many cases in the Bahamas are lost because of legal technicalities or loopholes smart lawyer seemingly exploit. Beating a suspect is not necessary if in fact they turned themselves in. Disrespecting and refusing to allow Miss Farquarson to see her client is a no no in my book and may be a breech of a suspect rights.