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marvinrzgibson
01-23-08, - 01:42 AM
Thursday, May 2nd, 2002, ushered in a new era of leadership filled with dreams, hopes and possibilities for the Islands of The Bahamas under a New Progressive Liberal Party Government lead by the Honorable Perry Gladstone Christie.

Mr. Christie, hell bent on proving that he was a better leader than the Rt. Honorable Hubert Alexander Ingraham, opened the doors for a more interactive, communicative decision-making process as he sought to ensure that people saw the new Government as a consultative body. This, unfortunately, led to too much talk and no action.

Exactly five years later Mr. Christie would sit on the opposite of the House of Assembly facing a new Government that the Bahamian electorate used to throw him out of office because he was considered weak, indecisive and, for lack of a better word, ballsless. It is said that Christmas Trees had more balls than he did!

Today, as Leader of the Official Opposition and "soon to be former Leader of the PLP", Mr. Christie stands or sits alone. Progressive Liberal Party MP's are either embarrassing themselves with shameful shenanigans (i.e. V. Alfred Gray) or (like Kenyetta Gibson) simply walking away from this modern self-destructing political loser. The backstabbers are courting Christie and grinning in his face while rubbing his shoulder with a hand holding a dagger. Yet other high ranking officials in the party are so loudly silent it is deafening!

The Progressive Liberal Party requires much restructuring but it cannot and will not happen with Christie at the helm. His greed for power and prestige prevents him from packing his "georgy-bundle" and going home. The Prime Minister's pension is already out of his grasp never to return. His tenure as leader of this country is complete never to happen again. Mr. Christie needs to go home!

Allison Maynard-Gibson's defeat in election court was merely another sounding of the death knell of Christie's political career. He and many in the party had placed so much hope in the election court case as they had intended to use it to revitalize and boost his leadership. The plan flopped, unfortunately.

It is a clear reality that the PLP will not gain any advantages (or win anything) any time soon with Christie wearing the Party’s Chief Executive’s position as if it were his favorite pajamas. It is time for this once viable organization to cut its losses in Christie. If they don’t want to be as crude as Ingraham or as rude as Gibson, simply tell Christie, “Sir, you’ve been good but it’s time to hang up your hat and move on.”

Kareem Lumumba
01-23-08, - 02:54 AM
Thursday, May 2nd, 2002, ushered in a new era of leadership filled with dreams, hopes and possibilities for the Islands of The Bahamas under a New Progressive Liberal Party Government lead by the Honorable Perry Gladstone Christie.
Mr. Christie, hell bent on proving that he was a better leader than the Rt. Honorable Hubert Alexander Ingraham, opened the doors for a more interactive, communicative decision-making process as he sought to ensure that people saw the new Government as a consultative body. This, unfortunately, led to too much talk and no action.
Exactly five years later Mr. Christie would sit on the opposite of the House of Assembly facing a new Government that the Bahamian electorate used to throw him out of office because he was considered weak, indecisive and, for lack of a better word, ballsless. It is said that Christmas Trees had more balls than he did!
Today, as Leader of the Official Opposition and "soon to be former Leader of the PLP", Mr. Christie stands or sits alone. Progressive Liberal Party MP's are either embarrassing themselves with shameful shenanigans (i.e. V. Alfred Gray) or (like Kenyetta Gibson) simply walking away from this modern self-destructing political loser. The backstabbers are courting Christie and grinning in his face while rubbing his shoulder with a hand holding a dagger. Yet other high ranking officials in the party are so loudly silent it is deafening!
The Progressive Liberal Party requires much restructuring but it cannot and will not happen with Christie at the helm. His greed for power and prestige prevents him from packing his "georgy-bundle" and going home. The Prime Minister's pension is already out of his grasp never to return. His tenure as leader of this country is complete never to happen again. Mr. Christie needs to go home!
Allison Maynard-Gibson's defeat in election court was merely another sounding of the death knell of Christie's political career. He and many in the party had placed so much hope in the election court case as they had intended to use it to revitalize and boost his leadership. The plan flopped, unfortunately.
It is a clear reality that the PLP will not gain any advantages (or win anything) any time soon with Christie wearing the Party’s Chief Executive’s position as if it were his favorite pajamas. It is time for this once viable organization to cut its losses in Christie. If they don’t want to be as crude as Ingraham or as rude as Gibson, simply tell Christie, “Sir, you’ve been good but it’s time to hang up your hat and move on.”
I think that you have overstated your case a bit here. Having taken time to read the entire transcript I venture to say you are an aficionado of BRUT TALK AND NO BRAIN brand of leadership that comes with a good dose of good ole fashion rowing and dictatorial style of leadership that passes for management skills in the Bahamas.
Christies' difficulties comes from his success, as PM, in managing the ship of State thru perilous economic times post 9/11. Rather than worrying about your job you could spend time rowing about nonsense. Having done so well in navigating the nation's economy thru troubled waters, a nation of ungrateful people in new "little Haiti" that use to be called Nassau and the Bahamas, were unaware and clueless as to how close they came to catastrophic economic collapse.
Why, because they enjoyed virtually an uninterrupted and unprecedented period of prosperity in troubled international times. However, we know the chickens are now coming home to roost and we shall see if BRUT TALK AND NO BRAIN dictatorship can bring the ship of state safely thru these very troubling and perilous economic times we have yet to face headon!
Try to apply a li'l more balance and insight to your analysis!

Hobo
01-23-08, - 03:01 AM
I think that you have overstated your case a bit here. Having taken time to read the entire transcript I venture to say you are an aficionado of BRUT TALK AND NO BRAIN brand of leadership that comes with a good dose of good ole fashion rowing and dictatorial style of leadership that passes for management skills in the Bahamas.
Christies' difficulties comes from his success, as PM, in managing the ship of State thru perilous economic times post 9/11. Rather than worrying about your job you could spend time rowing about nonsense. Having done so well in navigating the nation's economy thru troubled waters, a nation of ungrateful people in new "little Haiti" that use to be called Nassau and the Bahamas, were unaware and clueless as to how close they came to catastrophic economic collapse.
Why, because they enjoyed virtually an uninterrupted and unprecedented period of prosperity in troubled international times. However, we know the chickens are now coming home to roost and we shall see if BRUT TALK AND NO BRAIN dictatorship can bring the ship of state safely thru these very troubling and perilous economic times we have yet to face headon!
Try to apply a li'l more balance and insight to your analysis!
Yeah naw, yours was very balanced.

Objective thought
01-23-08, - 07:08 AM
Thursday, May 2nd, 2002, ushered in a new era of leadership filled with dreams, hopes and possibilities for the Islands of The Bahamas under a New Progressive Liberal Party Government lead by the Honorable Perry Gladstone Christie.

Mr. Christie, hell bent on proving that he was a better leader than the Rt. Honorable Hubert Alexander Ingraham, opened the doors for a more interactive, communicative decision-making process as he sought to ensure that people saw the new Government as a consultative body. This, unfortunately, led to too much talk and no action.

Exactly five years later Mr. Christie would sit on the opposite of the House of Assembly facing a new Government that the Bahamian electorate used to throw him out of office because he was considered weak, indecisive and, for lack of a better word, ballsless. It is said that Christmas Trees had more balls than he did!

Today, as Leader of the Official Opposition and "soon to be former Leader of the PLP", Mr. Christie stands or sits alone. Progressive Liberal Party MP's are either embarrassing themselves with shameful shenanigans (i.e. V. Alfred Gray) or (like Kenyetta Gibson) simply walking away from this modern self-destructing political loser. The backstabbers are courting Christie and grinning in his face while rubbing his shoulder with a hand holding a dagger. Yet other high ranking officials in the party are so loudly silent it is deafening!

The Progressive Liberal Party requires much restructuring but it cannot and will not happen with Christie at the helm. His greed for power and prestige prevents him from packing his "georgy-bundle" and going home. The Prime Minister's pension is already out of his grasp never to return. His tenure as leader of this country is complete never to happen again. Mr. Christie needs to go home!

Allison Maynard-Gibson's defeat in election court was merely another sounding of the death knell of Christie's political career. He and many in the party had placed so much hope in the election court case as they had intended to use it to revitalize and boost his leadership. The plan flopped, unfortunately.

It is a clear reality that the PLP will not gain any advantages (or win anything) any time soon with Christie wearing the Party’s Chief Executive’s position as if it were his favorite pajamas. It is time for this once viable organization to cut its losses in Christie. If they don’t want to be as crude as Ingraham or as rude as Gibson, simply tell Christie, “Sir, you’ve been good but it’s time to hang up your hat and move on.”
So after Tommy lost in 2002, When exactly did he "step down" or "moved on"?????

NEVER!!!!!!! He had to be beaten and dragged off by a ghost. A ghost that came out of nowhere and took the leadership from him!!!!

I say ghost because HI promised him that would NEVER run against him for the leadership of the FNM, so much for TRUST!!!!

ching357
01-23-08, - 08:25 AM
So after Tommy lost in 2002, When exactly did he "step down" or "moved on"?????
NEVER!!!!!!! He had to be beaten and dragged off by a ghost. A ghost that came out of nowhere and took the leadership from him!!!!
I say ghost because HI promised him that would NEVER run against him for the leadership of the FNM, so much for TRUST!!!!
Ob,you still stuck in 2002 with Tommy do you realize Tommy since then has recaptured his seat and is no the minister of national security.
I would say evryone same to have moved on in that party and has rebuild since then becoming the government of today,unlike the now opposition which falling apart from acceptance and no direct sensible leader.
Do you understand what is really going on in that party that you are so hell bent on protecting for their carelessness,that party is crumblling and it's going to take a next ten years for them to start to show some form of composure.
For the record i follow both partys one can do that when their head isn't lost up anyone's azz and what i speak is facts,so next time if you do cliam to have entrance to their meettings go and listern with an open mind and keep your eyes open and look beyond what is being said and you will understand.

marvinrzgibson
01-23-08, - 01:40 PM
I think that you have overstated your case a bit here. Having taken time to read the entire transcript I venture to say you are an aficionado of BRUT TALK AND NO BRAIN brand of leadership that comes with a good dose of good ole fashion rowing and dictatorial style of leadership that passes for management skills in the Bahamas.
Christies' difficulties comes from his success, as PM, in managing the ship of State thru perilous economic times post 9/11. Rather than worrying about your job you could spend time rowing about nonsense. Having done so well in navigating the nation's economy thru troubled waters, a nation of ungrateful people in new "little Haiti" that use to be called Nassau and the Bahamas, were unaware and clueless as to how close they came to catastrophic economic collapse.
Why, because they enjoyed virtually an uninterrupted and unprecedented period of prosperity in troubled international times. However, we know the chickens are now coming home to roost and we shall see if BRUT TALK AND NO BRAIN dictatorship can bring the ship of state safely thru these very troubling and perilous economic times we have yet to face headon!
Try to apply a li'l more balance and insight to your analysis!

If there is a class for delusional antics, misrepresentations of reality and "crappy" political assertions then you are the teacher. After taking the time to read your response I concluded that you too might have been struck in the head with the tale end of political flag or you are a staunch proponent of the BALLSLESS (not guts) WONDER (listening to hear yourself talk while staring into space) AGENDA.

I don't know that one could reasonably, logically describe Christie's tenure as PM as a success. When he came to office in May 2002 the economy was robust post 9/11. Our country had recuperated well and quickly after this catastrophe in America under the Free National Movement Government and the Bahamian Electorate had turned their attention to squabbles within in the FNM over leadership issues and, later, to fighting proposals in a referendum that, interestingly enough, had been supported by every elected PLP MP in the House of Assembly at that time except one who, I believe, had chosen to abstain from voting in this process.

It is Christie who navigated the country into tumultous territories with his inability to lead his party, control his unruly Cabinet Ministers and Members of Parliament and make fluent and effective decisions. The major screwup in the recently generally election falls directly at the feet of Christie who had the ball in his court to make timely decisions so that election process could have gone in a much smoother and less controversial manner. We've had four (4) general elections since 1992 when the election laws were revisited and adjusted for a more accountable, fair and honest process. Of the three (3) Prime Ministers, Christie's is the only one where chaos ensued.

In another time in this place I shared this piece of advice: "Don't be fooled even by your own foolish conclusions." Christie's political career is history. Defending it with the intent to extending it is moot. He may survive in his party's political arena because of "faithful" supporters like you who wholeheartedly subscribe to the BALLSLESS WONDER AGENDA. Know however, that on the Bahamian electoral stage "dog eat he lunch" because he can't cut the "political leadership" mustard. It is finish. The battle is over. Christie needs to stop dreaming (or keep dreaming) and go home!

Lurker
01-23-08, - 01:47 PM
I think that you have overstated your case a bit here. Having taken time to read the entire transcript I venture to say you are an aficionado of BRUT TALK AND NO BRAIN brand of leadership that comes with a good dose of good ole fashion rowing and dictatorial style of leadership that passes for management skills in the Bahamas.
Christies' difficulties comes from his success, as PM, in managing the ship of State thru perilous economic times post 9/11. Rather than worrying about your job you could spend time rowing about nonsense. Having done so well in navigating the nation's economy thru troubled waters, a nation of ungrateful people in new "little Haiti" that use to be called Nassau and the Bahamas, were unaware and clueless as to how close they came to catastrophic economic collapse.
Why, because they enjoyed virtually an uninterrupted and unprecedented period of prosperity in troubled international times. However, we know the chickens are now coming home to roost and we shall see if BRUT TALK AND NO BRAIN dictatorship can bring the ship of state safely thru these very troubling and perilous economic times we have yet to face headon!
Try to apply a li'l more balance and insight to your analysis!


I think that you are smarter than your posts imply. Crisco Butt and the Pee Hell Pees couldn't do ONE thing without either appointing a committee or lining their pockets. It seems like their minds were constipated.

Well the laxative of the 2007 election forced a change. If your beloved Pee Hell Pees were such a friggin' panacea, why couldn't they keep Bay Street Clean. Have you seen it? There are street sweepers the length and breadth all the way to Harbour Bay. Perry didn't have the brains or the head valves to even wipe his azz.

The Exotic One
01-23-08, - 01:50 PM
ALL DISGRUNTLED AND HARD CORE PLP'S ARE INVITED TO A REAL RALLY!!

WHEN: THURSDAY 7PM

WHERE: RM BAILEY PARK

COME HEAR A REAL LEADER SPEAK!!! SEE U THERE!!!:bouncy::bouncy::bouncy::bouncy::hammer::hammer:

licks2
01-23-08, - 01:52 PM
I think that you have overstated your case a bit here. Having taken time to read the entire transcript I venture to say you are an aficionado of BRUT TALK AND NO BRAIN brand of leadership that comes with a good dose of good ole fashion rowing and dictatorial style of leadership that passes for management skills in the Bahamas.
Christies' difficulties comes from his success, as PM, in managing the ship of State thru perilous economic times post 9/11. Rather than worrying about your job you could spend time rowing about nonsense. Having done so well in navigating the nation's economy thru troubled waters, a nation of ungrateful people in new "little Haiti" that use to be called Nassau and the Bahamas, were unaware and clueless as to how close they came to catastrophic economic collapse.
Why, because they enjoyed virtually an uninterrupted and unprecedented period of prosperity in troubled international times. However, we know the chickens are now coming home to roost and we shall see if BRUT TALK AND NO BRAIN dictatorship can bring the ship of state safely thru these very troubling and perilous economic times we have yet to face headon!
Try to apply a li'l more balance and insight to your analysis!
When ya dumb ya werry dangerous. . .ya hear!! So nah call the police fer yasef fer "being ijit without due care and attention". . .shed!!!:cutie:

Brown Suga
01-23-08, - 01:59 PM
Oh boy...I just love it!

Y'all putting these PLP's right in their place!

marvinrzgibson
01-23-08, - 02:03 PM
So after Tommy lost in 2002, When exactly did he "step down" or "moved on"?????
NEVER!!!!!!! He had to be beaten and dragged off by a ghost. A ghost that came out of nowhere and took the leadership from him!!!!
I say ghost because HI promised him that would NEVER run against him for the leadership of the FNM, so much for TRUST!!!!

Note a statement made by me regarding the Tommy Turnquest fiasco on January 7th, 2005: As for the FNM, Tommy Turnquest is still the leader and the party basically remains in a slump. The public can’t reiterate it enough – Tommy has to go. His leadership leaves much to be desired and he hasn’t demonstrated to his party or this country that he is capable of governing a party, let alone a country. I hope the party wakes up soon or we’ll be sitting in the same position as the PLP before the 97 elections – people were upset with the party’s leadership so they beat the stuffings out of the party during the election. We’ve already learned a lot about Tommy’s leadership. When he loses, he really loses.

It’s 2005. Maybe just a day or two by the time you read this but it’s 2005. I’m hoping that the Free National Movement Party wakes up and deals with the Tommy Turnquest fiasco before 2006. See http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=1437

Note, further, another statement from me on this subject posted on November 11th, 2005: I did not have a problem with Mr. Turnquest being leader of the Free National Movement or even Prime Minister of this country. However, once he was defeated in the general elections I couldn’t support him as leader because, when it comes to the role of political leadership, he hadn’t sufficiently proven his worth. He could not speak in the House of Assembly so he couldn’t properly represent/defend his constituents, his party or this country. Mr. Turnquest brought his political career to ruins when he didn’t do the honorable thing and resign as leader after he lost his seat in the last general elections. See http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=2595

Tommy may not have stepped down but it wouldn't be because I didn't speak out against him. Tommy should have left then for the sake of the FNM and Perry should leave now for the sake of the PLP. Whatever happens the PLP will not go anywhere with Christie at it's helm and only his resignation can change this party's political downfall.

Brown Suga
01-23-08, - 02:07 PM
Note a statement made by me regarding the Tommy Turnquest fiasco on January 7th, 2005:
Note, further, another statement from me on this subject posted on November 11th, 2005:
Tommy may not have stepped down but it wouldn't be because I didn't speak out against him. Tommy should have left then for the sake of the FNM and Perry should leave now for the sake of the PLP. Whatever happens the PLP will not go anywhere with Christie at it's helm and only his resignation can change this party's political downfall.

But the persons with voting power need to realize that Christie has to go. If they are going to convention to vote for him then things will remain the same.

The Point
01-23-08, - 02:15 PM
I think that you are smarter than your posts imply. Crisco Butt and the Pee Hell Pees couldn't do ONE thing without either appointing a committee or lining their pockets. It seems like their minds were constipated.
Well the laxative of the 2007 election forced a change. If your beloved Pee Hell Pees were such a friggin' panacea, why couldn't they keep Bay Street Clean. Have you seen it? There are street sweepers the length and breadth all the way to Harbour Bay. Perry didn't have the brains or the head valves to even wipe his azz.

Crude! :jawdroop:

The Exotic One
01-23-08, - 02:30 PM
I think that you are smarter than your posts imply. Crisco Butt and the Pee Hell Pees couldn't do ONE thing without either appointing a committee or lining their pockets. It seems like their minds were constipated.

Well the laxative of the 2007 election forced a change. If your beloved Pee Hell Pees were such a friggin' panacea, why couldn't they keep Bay Street Clean. Have you seen it? There are street sweepers the length and breadth all the way to Harbour Bay. Perry didn't have the brains or the head valves to even wipe his azz.
Gee Lurker hun u little harsh on dat one hey? lol

Kareem Lumumba
01-26-08, - 06:37 PM
If there is a class for delusional antics, misrepresentations of reality and "crappy" political assertions then you are the teacher. After taking the time to read your response I concluded that you too might have been struck in the head with the tale end of political flag or you are a staunch proponent of the BALLSLESS (not guts) WONDER (listening to hear yourself talk while staring into space) AGENDA.
I don't know that one could reasonably, logically describe Christie's tenure as PM as a success. When he came to office in May 2002 the economy was robust post 9/11. Our country had recuperated well and quickly after this catastrophe in America under the Free National Movement Government and the Bahamian Electorate had turned their attention to squabbles within in the FNM over leadership issues and, later, to fighting proposals in a referendum that, interestingly enough, had been supported by every elected PLP MP in the House of Assembly at that time except one who, I believe, had chosen to abstain from voting in this process.
It is Christie who navigated the country into tumultous territories with his inability to lead his party, control his unruly Cabinet Ministers and Members of Parliament and make fluent and effective decisions. The major screwup in the recently generally election falls directly at the feet of Christie who had the ball in his court to make timely decisions so that election process could have gone in a much smoother and less controversial manner. We've had four (4) general elections since 1992 when the election laws were revisited and adjusted for a more accountable, fair and honest process. Of the three (3) Prime Ministers, Christie's is the only one where chaos ensued.
In another time in this place I shared this piece of advice: "Don't be fooled even by your own foolish conclusions." Christie's political career is history. Defending it with the intent to extending it is moot. He may survive in his party's political arena because of "faithful" supporters like you who wholeheartedly subscribe to the BALLSLESS WONDER AGENDA. Know however, that on the Bahamian electoral stage "dog eat he lunch" because he can't cut the "political leadership" mustard. It is finish. The battle is over. Christie needs to stop dreaming (or keep dreaming) and go home!
This is all smoke and mirror nonsense! When I have time, :hammer:I will sit down and answer your foolishness and nonsense about the years of Hubert Ingraham and the FNM's, " Ballsy Wander land Economic Agenda that was supposedly so robust for the Bahamian people.