Its amazing watching this political process in the US...Right now we are watching right before our eyes the beginning of a generation shift politically.

The so called baby boomer's (Hillary's base, the over 50 crowd) and the under 45 crowd (Obama's base, including the Generation x crowd) are in a tug of war...This election is the baby boomer's last hu rahh but the under 45 crowd sees an opening as well for them...

the generational political shift in the US is under way and if truth be told, its happening here in the bahamas as well...HI, PC, and bernard nottage are the last of the old guard, but what concerns me is i dont see anyone ready to receive the baton as they pass it on...

Imo, this is worth a discussion...Who is the leader who represents those bahamians under 50 and can take that leadership baton and this country to the next level in our march toward 1st world..

I think what is happening in the US is exciting. To think that less tha 50years ago black peeps couldn't use public restrooms or be seated in restaurants in the South and today a black man is running for President.We are witnessing History but more importantly progress for the black citizens of the US.

Its amazing watching this political process in the US...Right now we are watching right before our eyes the beginning of a generation shift politically.
The so called baby boomer's (Hillary's base, the over 50 crowd) and the under 45 crowd (Obama's base, including the Generation x crowd) are in a tug of war...This election is the baby boomer's last hu rahh but the under 45 crowd sees an opening as well for them...
the generational political shift in the US is under way and if truth be told, its happening here in the bahamas as well...HI, PC, and bernard nottage are the last of the old guard, but what concerns me is i dont see anyone ready to receive the baton as they pass it on...
Imo, this is worth a discussion...Who is the leader who represents those bahamians under 50 and can take that leadership baton and this country to the next level in our march toward 1st world..

Yup!

Those of us in the under-group as you define have failed our country politically IMO. We are the most of the selfish :( and I've been telling others in our group this too.

Who's on the horizon? From what I see and in order: Zhivargo Laing, Jeff Lloyd (if interested), Tommy T, Glenniss Hanna-Martin, ..... Hubert Minnis

Bey dis a hard ting: finding ppl with experience, aptitude, political smarts, integrity, good ambassador for country ..... LAWDY, who?????

Who's on the horizon? From what I see and in order: Zhivargo Laing, Jeff Lloyd (if interested), Tommy T, Glenniss Hanna-Martin, ..... Hubert Minnis
Bey dis a hard ting: finding ppl with experience, aptitude, political smarts, integrity, good ambassador for country ..... LAWDY, who?????
Those names all have baggage with them...Jeff Lloyd? are you serious? None of those names stand out...Where is this generations Obama?

i came to the same conclusion on this post and i want to let you all know i will take the baton name is solomon henderson aka grouper84 and i am been thinking about this for a long time i will be the next generation of leaders of this country i already have at leats 50 to 100 people ready to go with me to form a third party the plp faild the fnm failed cdr and bdm double failed we need a new visionare and a man of god fearing wisdom understanding and a man of all time and i feel i am that person to lead the commonweath of the bahamas into the 21st century:angel:

Yup!
Those of us in the under-group as you define have failed our country politically IMO. We are the most of the selfish :( and I've been telling others in our group this too.
Who's on the horizon? From what I see and in order: Zhivargo Laing, Jeff Lloyd (if interested), Tommy T, Glenniss Hanna-Martin, ..... Hubert Minnis
Bey dis a hard ting: finding ppl with experience, aptitude, political smarts, integrity, good ambassador for country ..... LAWDY, who?????
That's thing! It's hard to find someone with fresh ideas (per say) who has lots of experience. Part of the appeal of Obama is exactly that, he has little experience and no baggage so he can talk positively about the future without so many picking up of things he had done in the past. Ultimately if experience is always the defining point for a job or a political position anywhere innovation and freshness will be stiffled.

That's thing! It's hard to find someone with fresh ideas (per say) who has lots of experience. Part of the appeal of Obama is exactly that, he has little experience and no baggage so he can talk positively about the future without so many picking up of things he had done in the past. Ultimately if experience is always the defining point for a job or a political position anywhere innovation and freshness will be stiffled.

How do you find someone WITHOUT baggage? Everyone has baggage I think. And in any democratic country, if you come with no baggage, your rivals will find baggage for you.

Those names all have baggage with them...Jeff Lloyd? are you serious? None of those names stand out...Where is this generations Obama?

Hopefully no where near Nassau. Obama's policies are just ridiculous. I am not sure if you guys are aware, but he would love nothing else than to destroy the Bahamas with his tax haven legislation.

Hopefully no where near Nassau. Obama's policies are just ridiculous. I am not sure if you guys are aware, but he would love nothing else than to destroy the Bahamas with his tax haven legislation.

that is very interesting, and i was totally unaware. do you have a link to any specifics?

that is very interesting, and i was totally unaware. do you have a link to any specifics?

http://www.senate.gov/~levin/newsroom/release.cfm?id=269479

Oh, and the next guard is right here. :)

no offense, but that's what all of the candidates have been saying for decades back, and yet nothing changes in the offshore world for real. i don't think that either political party has the wherewithal to close all of the available tax havens, nor could their campaign fundraisers survive.
you really think that there's any teeth to this? levin was behind the gore-sponsored legislation that led to the oecd blacklist of the bahamas just a few years back under the previous ingraham administration.

I think that if Obama is president there is real teeth to this yes.

http://www.senate.gov/~levin/newsroom/release.cfm?id=269479
Oh, and the next guard is right here. :)

It will never happen to any real degree because the very power and money that backs every President won't permit it to happen. Only one US President ever double crossed that group and we all know wat happened to him and his brother.:hammer:

Hopefully no where near Nassau. Obama's policies are just ridiculous. I am not sure if you guys are aware, but he would love nothing else than to destroy the Bahamas with his tax haven legislation.I know that you're a lawyer so answer a few questions:

The wording of the bill targets "potential Offshore Secrecy Jurisdictions" according to the IRS. The "initial list" of jurisdictions was taken from IRS court filings identifying these jurisdictions as "probable" locations for U.S. tax evasion.

The IRS isn't the OECD, but due to our vastly changed laws to conform to OECD standards, do we still fit this description of an "Offshore Secrecy Jurisdictions"?

The purpose of the bill is to impose financial sanctions on foreign jurisdictions, financial institutions, or transactions found to be of “primary money laundering concern.”

Again, with our new OECD regulations are we a "primary money laundering concern" anymore?

It is believed that they are targeting international firms that do not follow due diligence regarding their clientèle. There has not been any major scramble over here regarding this bill, at least from the places that I deal with.

Didn't we already run all of the tax evasion crooks out of town after the blacklisting? And here in The Bahamas most, if not all, of the mainstream offshore banks would not dare have practices that unreasonably restrict U.S. tax authorities from obtaining needed information.

We would be on the OECD blacklist again in a heartbeat.

Actual Bill is here (http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/supporting/2007/PSI.OffshoreTaxBill.021707.pdf)

http://www.senate.gov/~levin/newsroom/release.cfm?id=269516

Bahamas is listed