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round_robbin
01-26-08, - 08:18 AM
My God this woman is sickening to see. Her and her husband. They will do anything to win it appears- even if winning means, fracturing the entire Democratic Party. This will happen and is happening.

As much as Obama, has tried to paint himself as a middle of the road candidate for the future, Clinton, has done real well in painting him as "The Black candidate". This has pissed off moderates universally as well as white and Hispanic voters, which has caused them to think that Obama feels this way. From the attacks on his previous work experience with a Chicago law firm, who happened to represent a “slum lord” client, from her saying that “He [Obama] is a young and inexperienced African American candidate”, from her husband, Billy Boy, who many claimed has been so instrumental for black people, even though New Orleans has shown us otherwise and poverty in America, still is disproportional between whites and blacks, saying that-“Obama, should quit this fairy tale”.

I think we have seen the best, or for that matter, the worst from the Clintons. I hope we see the last of them.
What makes these timed attacks worse, it seems as if every picture you saw Obama in, in South Carolina, he was surrounded by black supporters. Bear in mind, 50% of the voter in South Carolina is black, so he, nor she, could have avoided it.


Why else should non black Democrats be pissed?
We know it is turning those lily white, liberal pro-choice hags guts out- pun intended- to see a black man get to the top of history before they do- seeing how long they served on their knee's to the master, to even get to this point- pun also intended.

Also, we know how it must make Hispanics hopping mad, to see a black man dare to get to the top of America, while their race is trying to get to that pinnacle as well. Face it, the Hispanics always thought they were better than the blacks and, there was always racial tension. This election, has just pitted the two minorities against each other, in the most cruel and useless way. Thanks’ to Hillary and Bill, making Obama out to be the "Black candidate". But, like I said, the Hispanics always thought because of their color, they were better and more equipped to handle themselves in America, better than that of the blacks. That is yet to be seen and, I would welcome any Hispanic candidate, once he or she is able to speak clearly to the issues, and speak for all Americans.

They [the Clintons] have- and I am happy to say- sunk the democratic party and, there is no way they can come back united behind any leader, black white or Hispanic, after we have seen "race" still playing a factor in their minds. It’s just a shame that they have to take the first true blue and credible black candidate with them, along with the minorities and unions who he “used” appeal to, with them.

When speaking to my friends, and telling them that that the Democratic Party has been more racially motivated and prejudiced than that of the Republican Party, they have always said I am out of my mind and, the GOP has guys like Trent Lott, Bill Bennett and G. Bush. I always say to them; “just because the media spun their stories out of proportion and, Kanye West said it about Bush on air, does not make it true.”

At least with the GOP, you know where you stand. But with the Democrats, you see how blacks have been trained to be subservient to their white masters, all the while giving them some sense of accomplishment, but in reality, the glass ceiling is very much present in the Democratic Party and it is much more detrimental to their development, as with this recent open air spat, it appears to be falling in on them. The GOP gives everyone under the sun- white, black, Asian or Hispanic- the tough line. You know where you stand. And, from my experience, it is not about what color you are, but, how much capital you can command.

Clinton, Bill and Hillary, have shown you what they think and feel. For Bill saying and being labeled as “The first Black president", I think Bill and the people who labeled him, should take that back- or perhaps shouldn't they. What he is doing, sure seems like that n-word, with “dly” suffixed to it.

SpamStopper
01-26-08, - 03:10 PM
It appears you like Obama then. :rolleyes:

its funny to watch the dems them attacking each other for a change though, instead of the US soldiers.

round_robbin
01-26-08, - 03:38 PM
It appears you like Obama then. :rolleyes:

its funny to watch the dems them attacking each other for a change though, instead of the US soldiers.

Even Republicans like Obama. He is refreshing. However, his tax positions will gain him a thumbs down. In fact, Democrat tax policy get thumbs down from me on any day.
:tdown::tdown:

nationbuilder
01-26-08, - 03:40 PM
its funny to watch the dems them attacking each other for a change though, instead of the US soldiers.
lol

SpamStopper
01-26-08, - 03:42 PM
Even Republicans like Obama. He is refreshing. However, his tax positions will gain him a thumbs down. In fact, Democrat tax policy get thumbs down from me on any day.
:tdown::tdown:


agreed, any1 but Hillary :D

http://www.anyonebuthillary2008.com/

round_robbin
01-26-08, - 03:49 PM
agreed, any1 but Hillary :D
http://www.anyonebuthillary2008.com/

Someone who understands!
:)

trubahamian
01-26-08, - 04:51 PM
agreed, any1 but Hillary :D
http://www.anyonebuthillary2008.com/

She is a snake in the grass!:hammer:

Sunnyjohn
01-26-08, - 05:06 PM
They are attacking because they know the gig is up.

Even though John McCain will cuss you out in a heartbeat (first hand commentary from friends who work for him and others who know him) I am pulling fa him and Barack.

...And Rory/Spam, The Republicans aren't exactly playing nice either.

canesfins
01-26-08, - 05:16 PM
Even Republicans like Obama. He is refreshing. However, his tax positions will gain him a thumbs down. In fact, Democrat tax policy get thumbs down from me on any day.
:tdown::tdown:

No they dont. Obama is one of the most liberal politicians in Washington, check his voting record. Republicans do not like Obama at all, at least his policies. Obama is far too liberal to win.

Sunnyjohn
01-26-08, - 05:34 PM
I agree he does have many liberal ideas, but Barack does present many conservative notions that have not sell well with the far left in the Democratic base.

Barack has built numerous private coaltions during his time in the Senate working well with ultra conservatives like Santorium.

Moderate Republicans DO like him. Those outside the far right appreciate his understanding of the cultural aspects of gun ownership (he does represent rural Illinois) and other issues.

The thinking is he MAY pull a Reagan and pull those voters away from the Republicans. Clinton can NEVER do that.

Barak has said publicly while he did not agree with some of his policies, he understood WHERE Regan was coming from and his appeal. He gave the old man his props on many issues.

He's also publically said that Bush Sr.'s coaltion building BEFORE going into the first Iraq war was spot on.

He is probably the most moderate politician (except for Guliani) in the race.


I like McCain and I like Barak. I'd be happy with either.

(If Guiliani didn't take such pleasure in gutting civil liberties when it suits him.....)

canesfins
01-26-08, - 05:41 PM
You need to go take a look at voting records, Obama is by far the most liberal candidate in the race. He will not get one republican vote.

This is for 2006 - the 10th most liberal Senator

http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&o2=desc

nationbuilder
01-26-08, - 07:02 PM
Yeh well Black Democrats in South Carolina..word to da wise..Hillary has already left the state, and barely campaigned there. That just goes to show, the black vote is only as important to them as it is expedient. Once they see that they cant woo the black vote as they classically have been able to, they een even giving the negroes their time.

Wonder if she forgets that if she wins the nomination, she still gern need those same votes come general election time.

canesfins
01-26-08, - 07:12 PM
Yeh well Black Democrats in South Carolina..word to da wise..Hillary has already left the state, and barely campaigned there. That just goes to show, the black vote is only as important to them as it is expedient. Once they see that they cant woo the black vote as they classically have been able to, they een even giving the negroes their time.
Wonder if she forgets that if she wins the nomination, she still gern need those same votes come general election time.

The real question is will the black democrat voters remember how they were treated by the nominee of the party they support.

nationbuilder
01-26-08, - 07:14 PM
The real question is will the black democrat voters remember how they were treated by the nominee of the party they support.
Hmmmmm. But ya know Bill Clinton is mad though..cuz he had black democrats in his hip pocket when he was president. This isnt a small loss for Hillary.

round_robbin
01-26-08, - 07:22 PM
No they dont. Obama is one of the most liberal politicians in Washington, check his voting record. Republicans do not like Obama at all, at least his policies. Obama is far too liberal to win.

When I say "like him", it is generally speaking. Many GOP pundits, thinks he is refreshing and what the country stands for. I agree with them.

I hope Hillary crashes and burns. For what she has done to his [Obama's] image, she deserves to never see the white house ever again.