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FACTS ONLY
02-08-08, - 07:17 PM
By KRYSTEL ROLLE, Guardian Staff Reporter, krystel@nasguard.com -

A combination of sex, drugs and alcohol, coupled with the collapse of family life and the ignored calls for help by a generation of confused young people, have been identified as some of the key components behind youth violence, a group of students revealed.

These revelations came during a talk show and a forum where attention was placed on the issue.

Delano Carey, one of the guests on Island FM's talk show Let's Talk Health, warned parents on Wednesday night to monitor their children's whereabouts, as high school students are targeted and sometimes invited to "sex parties".

"Parents need to watch where their children are going, because when they say they are going to the mall, but they might be going to sex parties called orgies. I was invited to one. One of my friends' parents got together -they planned it for everyone to come and buy drinks and have an orgy," said Carey.

He was joined on the show by other members of the Adolescent House on Shirley St. including Karen Johnson, Champagne Clarke, Ashley Johnson, and Shavon Johnson - a mixture of high school students and recent graduates.

Carey told host Jennifer Mackey, that persons aged 17 to 25 are often targeted for the parties.

"They are having sex with multiple partners and they are not sure what they have," he continued, referring to sexually transmitted diseases.

Meanwhile, during a forum on the issue of violence, C.R. Walker student Antonio Abraham said violence in schools stems from a much bigger problem, and for the most part is a cry for help.

I don't consider it (school violence) a problem, but it's a symptom of a bigger problem. When you see a fight happen, there is a fight before you see the chairs start to fly and the fists start to fly. There is a fight before those symptoms," he said addressing the forum participants.

"But the bigger problem is the children themselves have these internal issues that they're dealing with - insecurities, lack of respect, lack of maturity, lack of self control, lust, jealously, and the children are crying out to the people in the home and the people in authority to reach out to them. They are begging for you guys to pull them in to where they need to be," he continued, giving insight into the minds of school children.

The high levels of violence in schools have prompted the Ministry of Education, Youth, Sports and Culture and the Organization of American States to join forces with the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) to sponsor a Caribbean regional workshop on how to reduce school violence.

Education Minister Carl Bethel, Permanent Secretary Elma Garraway, Bahamas Union of Teachers President Ida Poitier, R.M. Bailey Principal Julian Anderson and young Abraham were panelists at the forum, which brought together students, teachers, and administrators from across the region to discuss and analyze policies and strategies, designed to eliminate violence and promote a culture of peace within schools.

During the talk show, members of the Adolescent House, which has programs geared towards the positive mentorship of students, revealed that children younger than 12 years of age smoke marijuana and drink alcohol.

Student Champagne Clarke said that seventh graders are smoking, "fighting over women," and joining gangs.

Another high-schooler explained that for some students, their gang is like their family.

"They don't get that love from home and the gangs can offer it," he said.

Meanwhile, at the forum, Antonio Abraham said the youth are not getting what they need from their parents and other persons they look up to.

"They are not getting the food that they need, the mentorship, everything that they need they are not getting it. These things that we call problems are just the symptoms of the bigger issues that we are ignoring," he said.

Countries attending the three day workshop included Trinidad and Tobago, Barbados, Antigua and Barbuda, Jamaica, Dominica, Grenada, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia and St. Vincent and the Grenadines.

Olympic medalist Nathaniel McKinney, who is a former member of the Adolescent House told The Guardian yesterday that the program was a beneficial one. Discussions centered around HIV and AIDS, teen pregnancy, gang violence, and pressures at home and at school.

McKinney added that the program helped him to build his character.


While some people or idiots like Omar Archer Sr are worrying about homosexuals who he thinks are child molesters, he and others like him and parent in general, better watch out for "closet swingers."

adidasboi987
02-08-08, - 07:24 PM
exactly...
i pray that a time will come when our leaders and those who aspire to be such decide to deal with the problems that reallly affect us...

Story is sad but no suprise...whats more sad is that we know what is going on and turn a blind eye to it...focusing on what can be considered and easy target....Mr. Archer et. al. as is evident homosexuals are the least of your worries...

FACTS ONLY
02-11-08, - 08:34 AM
By KRYSTEL ROLLE, Guardian Staff Reporter, krystel@nasguard.com -
A combination of sex, drugs and alcohol, coupled with the collapse of family life and the ignored calls for help by a generation of confused young people, have been identified as some of the key components behind youth violence, a group of students revealed.
These revelations came during a talk show and a forum where attention was placed on the issue.
Delano Carey, one of the guests on Island FM's talk show Let's Talk Health, warned parents on Wednesday night to monitor their children's whereabouts, as high school students are targeted and sometimes invited to "sex parties".
"Parents need to watch where their children are going, because when they say they are going to the mall, but they might be going to sex parties called orgies. I was invited to one. One of my friends' parents got together -they planned it for everyone to come and buy drinks and have an orgy," said Carey.
He was joined on the show by other members of the Adolescent House on Shirley St. including Karen Johnson, Champagne Clarke, Ashley Johnson, and Shavon Johnson - a mixture of high school students and recent graduates.
Carey told host Jennifer Mackey, that persons aged 17 to 25 are often targeted for the parties.
"They are having sex with multiple partners and they are not sure what they have," he continued, referring to sexually transmitted diseases.
Meanwhile, during a forum on the issue of violence, C.R. Walker student Antonio Abraham said violence in schools stems from a much bigger problem, and for the most part is a cry for help.
I don't consider it (school violence) a problem, but it's a symptom of a bigger problem. When you see a fight happen, there is a fight before you see the chairs start to fly and the fists start to fly. There is a fight before those symptoms," he said addressing the forum participants.
"But the bigger problem is the children themselves have these internal issues that they're dealing with - insecurities, lack of respect, lack of maturity, lack of self control, lust, jealously, and the children are crying out to the people in the home and the people in authority to reach out to them. They are begging for you guys to pull them in to where they need to be," he continued, giving insight into the minds of school children.
The high levels of violence in schools have prompted the Ministry of Education, Youth, Sports and Culture and the Organization of American States to join forces with the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) to sponsor a Caribbean regional workshop on how to reduce school violence.
Education Minister Carl Bethel, Permanent Secretary Elma Garraway, Bahamas Union of Teachers President Ida Poitier, R.M. Bailey Principal Julian Anderson and young Abraham were panelists at the forum, which brought together students, teachers, and administrators from across the region to discuss and analyze policies and strategies, designed to eliminate violence and promote a culture of peace within schools.
During the talk show, members of the Adolescent House, which has programs geared towards the positive mentorship of students, revealed that children younger than 12 years of age smoke marijuana and drink alcohol.
Student Champagne Clarke said that seventh graders are smoking, "fighting over women," and joining gangs.
Another high-schooler explained that for some students, their gang is like their family.
"They don't get that love from home and the gangs can offer it," he said.
Meanwhile, at the forum, Antonio Abraham said the youth are not getting what they need from their parents and other persons they look up to.
"They are not getting the food that they need, the mentorship, everything that they need they are not getting it. These things that we call problems are just the symptoms of the bigger issues that we are ignoring," he said.
Countries attending the three day workshop included Trinidad and Tobago, Barbados, Antigua and Barbuda, Jamaica, Dominica, Grenada, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia and St. Vincent and the Grenadines.
Olympic medalist Nathaniel McKinney, who is a former member of the Adolescent House told The Guardian yesterday that the program was a beneficial one. Discussions centered around HIV and AIDS, teen pregnancy, gang violence, and pressures at home and at school.
McKinney added that the program helped him to build his character.
While some people or idiots like Omar Archer Sr are worrying about homosexuals who he thinks are child molesters, he and others like him and parent in general, better watch out for "closet swingers."




I'm disappointed that only one reply to this thread. I know we getting jaded and have had enough of "dem young people's issues." But...................these ORGIES are been planned by parents. Who for the most part we may trust with out children. This story disturbed me. I don't know bout you other parents out there

These revelations were made on local talkshow. Not Jerry Springer. RIGHT HERE!!

In addition to school violence, kids are having sex with multiple partners, no wonder AIDS among young people is increasing.

Brown Suga
02-11-08, - 08:52 AM
I'm disappointed that only one reply to this thread. I know we getting jaded and have had enough of "dem young people's issues." But...................these ORGIES are been planned by parents. Who for the most part we may trust with out children. This story disturbed me. I don't know bout you other parents out there
These revelations were made on local talkshow. Not Jerry Springer. RIGHT HERE!!
In addition to school violence, kids are having sex with multiple partners, no wonder AIDS among young people is increasing.

Please say it een so!! I thought I was reading wrong when I saw parents!

What is this world coming to? All persons that age should be focusing on is getting a decent education.

bahamianpride
02-11-08, - 08:58 AM
i agree...
i was waiting for someone to point out that the politicians and homosexuals are conspiring together to keep bahamian parents in a constant state of confusion...so that the predators can come and scoop their children away and take them to GAY LAND...ITS LIKE DISNEY LAND...EXCEPT EVERYTHING IS PINK...AND ALL THE BALLONS ARE REALLY CONDOMS...

NAH I DIDN'T RESPOND BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE ANYONE THE EXCUSE TO MAKE THIS A GAY ISSUE....
but we see who cares about what around here....


but bahamians cannot be surprised that our youth are sexually active and plenty, plenty, plenty parents and adults know this...

until we provide safe environments for our youth to experience their academic, physical, social, emotional, psychological and sexual development...
they will always be vulnerable to the predators in this society....

Brown Suga
02-11-08, - 09:12 AM
i agree...
i was waiting for someone to point out that the politicians and homosexuals are conspiring together to keep bahamian parents in a constant state of confusion...so that the predators can come and scoop their children away and take them to GAY LAND...ITS LIKE DISNEY LAND...EXCEPT EVERYTHING IS PINK...AND ALL THE BALLONS ARE REALLY CONDOMS...
NAH I DIDN'T RESPOND BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE ANYONE THE EXCUSE TO MAKE THIS A GAY ISSUE....
but we see who cares about what around here....
but bahamians cannot be surprised that our youth are sexually active and plenty, plenty, plenty parents and adults know this...
until we provide safe environments for our youth to experience their academic, physical, social, emotional, psychological and sexual development...
they will always be vulnerable to the predators in this society....

Also it is what parents allow their children to be exposed to and the amountof freedom some of these young ppl have. Again it all goes back to responsible parenting and this starts at birth and ends when they become independent adults, ie, finshed college or Univ and even then they may still need guidance!

12play
02-11-08, - 09:13 AM
Are the Orgies being planned by Parents, or by people who are parents? 90% of all household are still headed by single women, right? Women are freaks, if you didn\'t know before!

~*Lovely*~
02-11-08, - 09:34 AM
Are the Orgies being planned by Parents, or by people who are parents? 90% of all household are still headed by single women, right? Women are freaks, if you didn\'t know before!
I'm wondering the same things! I guess the days are gone when a parent can call another parent to make sure that the children are going where they say they are going to do what they say they will be doing. My mother was adamant about speaking with parents, and my father was not easily convinced about ANYthing unless the family was known to him. What can parents rely on now?!
*Waits until 3:30pm to call the younger brother for a little chat*

Jaden
02-11-08, - 09:53 AM
This has been going on for years. It's still as sad now as it was then, but definitely not a shock to me. (Not sure how far-removed everyone is from their high school days). I don't agree with orgies, I don't agree with minors having sex...or sex outside of marriage, but gosh...it's your choice. And if you're gonna do whatever, at least have the sense to protect yourself and get tested regularly. I haven't been keeping up with current info, but last I heard, Bahamas was #1 in the Caribbean for AIDS, or something like that? Lemme know please.

FACTS ONLY
02-11-08, - 10:42 AM
You ain lie! Who memba da peanut butter girls! Dis ain new, It wasnt right then, it aint right now!
But I agree with addi, it does highlight the hypocrisy of this nation!


I think I've heard of this before a long time ago, but who, and what are "da peanutbutter girls?

FACTS ONLY
02-11-08, - 10:50 AM
LMAO, das a good one! Facts tryin act like she younger den me!
Its a urban legend about a party supposedly involving some young women, a pretty popular (now deceased) drug dealer, a jar of Peter Pan and a video recorder!


were parent there as in the case of the young man on the talkshow advising parents to monitor their children's whereabouts?

urban legend you say. anyone know if the legend was true or not?

wide eye
02-11-08, - 10:54 AM
It all boils down to PARENTING, which is sadly lacking in the Bahamas. Do you think a child that has PARENTS that are mindful and there for them will end up going to a party such as this, I think NOT!

Vicky
02-11-08, - 12:06 PM
This has been going on for years. It's still as sad now as it was then, but definitely not a shock to me. (Not sure how far-removed everyone is from their high school days). I don't agree with orgies, I don't agree with minors having sex...or sex outside of marriage, but gosh...it's your choice. And if you're gonna do whatever, at least have the sense to protect yourself and get tested regularly. I haven't been keeping up with current info, but last I heard, Bahamas was #1 in the Caribbean for AIDS, or something like that? Lemme know please.
There needs to be programs in schools to teach children to protect them selves.

Sunnyjohn
02-22-08, - 05:14 PM
LMAO, das a good one! Facts tryin act like she younger den me!
Its a urban legend about a party supposedly involving some young women, a pretty popular (now deceased) drug dealer, a jar of Peter Pan and a video recorder!


What about the "Snicker Licker" girls?

Remember that crew wayyyyyy back when?

BAHMIA
02-23-08, - 06:52 AM
What about the "Snicker Licker" girls?

Who? :confused: