Food for thought ...

Holy books?
Which one are you going to trust?
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v26/i1/holy.asp

Food for thought ...

Holy books?
Which one are you going to trust?
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v26/i1/holy.asp

quote from the site.

‘Right—so each of these religions claims that their “holy book” is true, having come not from man but from some divine being(s)? But they can’t all be true, because they contradict one another. For example, the Bible contains the claim that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life [John 14:6], and that he died for our sins but was raised on the third day [1 Cor. 15:1–4], and that no-one comes to the Father except through believing in Jesus—which contradicts every other “holy book” that I know of. Many people think that “all religions are the same” and/or “there are many paths to God”, but it’s very clear that Christianity is starkly different from all other religions. For one thing, Jesus Christ is a live Saviour—after having been raised from the dead, he appeared to over 500 eyewitnesses [1 Corinthians 15:6]—while the founders of other religions decayed in their tombs.1 So that is already very strong support for the uniqueness of Christianity/the Bible. Are there any other ways you could test to see which “holy book” is true?’


What is this person trying to say? That he/she can prove the Bible correct by using references in the Bible?
Give me a break he/she is a joke
Prove the Bible is Holy from other sources.

also using 1 Cor. 15:1–4 to say Christ rose from the dead. This is Pauls writings. Paul never knew Christ never saw talked or heard the man, Christ who walked the earth.

Food for thought ...

Holy books?
Which one are you going to trust?
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v26/i1/holy.asp


Only a Christian would have the effrontery to write what was written on that site. I can only assume that the person David Catchpoole was speaking to knew a little less about religion that Mr. Catchpoole.

If you have not read the article read it now.......

Many religions talk about eternity, Islam for one. Almost every religion has a creation story. They have stories about how the animals came to be as they are. Many religions call death the enemy. Many of our crop plants have been traced to other places, corn and tomatoes to name a few.

Mr. Catchpoole states "Which book best explains the earth's geology: why we find mountainous layers upon layers of sediments that look like they were pushed up and folded while still wet, and with dead animals and plants buried in them, all over the world?" He does not say which book. Is he talking about the Epic of Gilgamish? They talked about a flood too. And by the way, the layers do not look like they were folded while wet. He knows little about plate tectonics. He should also know that there have been many floods in the earth but there is no evidence for a universal flood.

He also states, ".... why women have pain in childbearing?" A gynaecologist once said "it is because it is like trying to shove a Volkswagen through a letter box!" In short, a bad design. A design that has killed more women that almost anything else.

He goes on and on but I think you get my point. Mr. Catchpoole's test, is no test at all and so full of holes that it looks like a Swiss cheese. Had any student presented a paper like that to me, I would have given him an "F." (Or got him a job as an evangelist!)

this reminds me of something i was supposed to post last week but forgot. A baptist preacher (probably Niel Ellis) is boldly planning on going into eastern countries to convert muslims and hindus. Areas where christianity is the minority (his literal words, not mine). Honestly i'm not a member of any of the religions but i was sickened by the out right brashness of this campaign.

this reminds me of something i was supposed to post last week but forgot. A baptist preacher (probably Niel Ellis) is boldly planning on going into eastern countries to convert muslims and hindus. Areas where christianity is the minority (his literal words, not mine). Honestly i'm not a member of any of the religions but i was sickened by the out right brashness of this campaign.

I wonder what he would think is Muslims and Hindus came here to convert the "lost?"

I wonder what he would think is Muslims and Hindus came here to convert the "lost?"

Here is site for those who really wish to learn something http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/uranus.htm

Here is site for those who really wish to learn something http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/uranus.htm
CG I really didn't go into the site,but one question,why do they call basically every topic a myth?

I wonder what he would think is Muslims and Hindus came here to convert the "lost?"

Most likely have a protest like the one during the gay family cruise. (I am only making a point of the protest.)

CG I really didn't go into the site,but one question,why do they call basically every topic a myth?

Many people say that myth is other people's religion. That is wrong. The word myth can be confusing. All religions use myth. That does not mean it is a lie! As Joseph Campbell puts it "Mythology is an organization of symbolic images and narratives, metaphorical of the possibilities of human experience and fulfillment in a given society in a given time."

Myth is a story that gives lessons, life lessons. Here is the story of the boy who cried wolf. I will give you the short version.

A boy was looking after the village sheep. He was bored so for fun he cried "Wolf! Wolf!" the whole village ran to his rescue, and the rescue of the sheep. When they got there, he had a good giggle. It was so much fun he did it again and again. Later in the evening a real wolf appeared. He yelled "Wolf! Wolf!" The people in the village said to each other, "It is just that stupid boy playing tricks!" No one came. The sheep were eaten, so was the boy!

There is a story, a mythical story, with a good life lesson, many lessons. Take your job seriously. Don't lie. Don't use other people for your own amusement. Also, save your cries for help for the time they are really needed. Now, I ask you is that story a lie? No, it is a myth.

Many religions contain mythological stories that form the morality and character of it followers and informs the people of the "science" of the day. That is what they are there for! The above story was simple but more complected ones carry much deeper wisdom.

When a religion takes its stories as fact those stories lose there power and all the energy of the religion goes into proving the unprovable. Worshipers begin to doubt the stories and the religion falls apart because they know that the stories are not "true."

It is also important to note that many stories are common to all religions, a creation, a flood, a savior, a messenger of evil, a life after death - the list goes on and on.

We should not turn our nose up at myths, be they our own, or others. There is much wisdom to be learned from them. Jesus used myth but we call them parables. Some even suggest that the story of Jesus was a myth, yet is was a story with a lesson to teach - the importance of love and sacrifice.

Read other people's myths, it will not kill you! And who knows, it might shine some light on your myths. :) :)

Many people say that myth is other people's religion. That is wrong. The word myth can be confusing. All religions use myth. That does not mean it is a lie! As Joseph Campbell puts it "Mythology is an organization of symbolic images and narratives, metaphorical of the possibilities of human experience and fulfillment in a given society in a given time."

Myth is a story that gives lessons, life lessons. Here is the story of the boy who cried wolf. I will give you the short version.

A boy was looking after the village sheep. He was bored so for fun he cried "Wolf! Wolf!" the whole village ran to his rescue, and the rescue of the sheep. When they got there, he had a good giggle. It was so much fun he did it again and again. Later in the evening a real wolf appeared. He yelled "Wolf! Wolf!" The people in the village said to each other, "It is just that stupid boy playing tricks!" No one came. The sheep were eaten, so was the boy!

There is a story, a mythical story, with a good life lesson, many lessons. Take your job seriously. Don't lie. Don't use other people for your own amusement. Also, save your cries for help for the time they are really needed. Now, I ask you is that story a lie? No, it is a myth.

Many religions contain mythological stories that form the morality and character of it followers and informs the people of the "science" of the day. That is what they are there for! The above story was simple but more complected ones carry much deeper wisdom.

When a religion takes its stories as fact those stories lose there power and all the energy of the religion goes into proving the unprovable. Worshipers begin to doubt the stories and the religion falls apart because they know that the stories are not "true."

It is also important to note that many stories are common to all religions, a creation, a flood, a savior, a messenger of evil, a life after death - the list goes on and on.

We should not turn our nose up at myths, be they our own, or others. There is much wisdom to be learned from them. Jesus used myth but we call them parables. Some even suggest that the story of Jesus was a myth, yet is was a story with a lesson to teach - the importance of love and sacrifice.

Read other people's myths, it will not kill you! And who knows, it might shine some light on your myths. :) :)


I will bet your spitit is one of the 3

I should add that myth is not something one believes in, necessarily - it is something one learns from and uses it to help one grow, to learn and to handle the stages of this life's adventure, and the one yet to come!

I will bet your spitit is one of the 3

Thanks, but sorry, I dont get your meaning here!

Thanks, but sorry, I dont get your meaning here!

1 of the 3 wise men you know from the east.
Hey here is a thought. The 3 wise men were form the east maybe 1 was Buddhist. It might have some bearing on the disappearance of Christ in his young years. It could play into the theory as why Christ teachings are so close to Buda’s teachings.

1 of the 3 wise men

OK, sorry!
You put me in good company! Which I do not deserve. :D

The "thinking" in some theological circles is that the three wise men (and we don't really know it was three, it just shows us that on Christmas Cards) were the Magi. A Magi was a Zoroastrian priest from Persia. A priest in, what some believe to be the oldest moral religion in the world.

As for Jesus having some Buddhist training. There are many who think that he did indeed travel to India during the "lost years of Jesus." Travel to India was common along the Silk road. The Bible even mentions India, I think in the Book of Ruth? But he would not have had to go that far. There were Buddhist missionaries in Alexandra and Cyprus. There is also a belief that he went to England (remember Blake's hymn, "and did those feet in ancient times walk on England's mountains green.....") He might have gone there to study with the Celts. Some say he stayed home and studied with the Essenes.

All of that is speculation, we will never know for sure but as I read the words of Jesus I can see a Buddhist influence there.

this reminds me of something i was supposed to post last week but forgot. A baptist preacher (probably Niel Ellis) is boldly planning on going into eastern countries to convert muslims and hindus. Areas where christianity is the minority (his literal words, not mine). Honestly i'm not a member of any of the religions but i was sickened by the out right brashness of this campaign.


lol.

I hope he does not get hurt.

really and truly, nobody can convert another, they have to be seeking a better way than what they already have first. The only thing he can do is prick their desire to learn more and give them bibles.

perhaps they will compare what they have been taught against what he preaches and see which seems more sound.

but it is pretty hard to change a made up mind. :p