And no word on why and what they would do with health in the Bahamas, aside from the price of fish- taking this from when the PM, went to a preventable healt conference, to talk about the price of fish- literally!
We need health reform. Prevention and better care.


Weren't you the same one who said the FNM scrapped Urban Renewal.......


*looks at Alien and thinks* ---What a stupid jack@$$!!:sparky:---

IMOP I don't thinkany government can gurantee 100% health coverage only if they are going to pay at least 80% and the public pays the 20% insurance coverage.
No government can afford to foot that bill for it's country now there are other avenues in health coverage that can be looked at first and see how it goes and i feel that DR>Minnis is trying a step thus far with the prescripsion part of it.
The US is cliaming to bring health care to it's people from that time but to no avail and it not going to happen again,sickness are getting worst and treatments are going up and up and full cure are just out there.
So i feel the close's we are going to get to good coverage half way which is better than where we were is the part inwhich as i've said MR MInnis is going.

The plan that exist in Canada do work for the most part.

the supposed free Canadian health care is its cost. Sure, it's free if you don't mind paying 40 percent income tax, as is the case with most Canadian middle-class taxpayers. In Ontario, they add an additional 15 percent in provincial sales tax and a goods and services tax onto everything, food and clothing included.

In other words, before you go to work, you already owe the government 55 cents from every dollar (potentially) earned.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/sfl-pbmail717pnfeb14,0,1740925.story

the supposed free Canadian health care is its cost. Sure, it's free if you don't mind paying 40 percent income tax, as is the case with most Canadian middle-class taxpayers. In Ontario, they add an additional 15 percent in provincial sales tax and a goods and services tax onto everything, food and clothing included.
In other words, before you go to work, you already owe the government 55 cents from every dollar (potentially) earned.


Or you could live in the Bahamas and pay 45-85% Customs tax on every single thing.

The plan that exist in Canada do work for the most part.

the supposed free Canadian health care is its cost. Sure, it's free if you don't mind paying 40 percent income tax, as is the case with most Canadian middle-class taxpayers. In Ontario, they add an additional 15 percent in provincial sales tax and a goods and services tax onto everything, food and clothing included.
In other words, before you go to work, you already owe the government 55 cents from every dollar (potentially) earned.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/sfl-pbmail717pnfeb14,0,1740925.story


We don't have to pay that much, if leadership talked to the doctors and the doctors, stopped inflating "visit cost" to suit their fancy.

There are more ways, to make and conserve money, in the long and short term, so it can work for all peope, cut taxes on important items and give the Bahamian people service when they want it.

The PM, since he wants to talk about medicines, wants to increase imports at the same time go on a WTO/Free Trade kick. He REALLY can't put himself outside of that box, to think totally flexible on any matter. The same thing he kicks for, will KILL his career and legacy- if he has any left.

We need preventative measures and not as much medicines at the border. Can't this man think about anything other than his selfish ambitions, which has NOTHING to do with Bahamian welfare?

2012 can't come soon enough!
:tdown:

In fact, Tommy T and we, do us a favour and sit that old clunker down.

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We don't have to pay that much, if leadership talked to the doctors and the doctors, stopped inflating "visit cost" to suit their fancy.
There are more ways, to make and conserve money, in the long and short term, so it can work for all peope, cut taxes on important items and give the Bahamian people service when they want it.
The PM, since he wants to talk about medicines, wants to increase imports at the same time go on a WTO/Free Trade kick. He REALLY can't put himself outside of that box, to think totally flexible on any matter. The same thing he kicks for, will KILL his career and legacy- if he has any left.
We need preventative measures and not as much medicines at the border. Can't this man think about anything other than his selfish ambitions, which has NOTHING to do with Bahamian welfare?
2012 can't come soon enough!
:tdown:
In fact, Tommy T and we, do us a favour and sit that old clunker down.So you are saying if certain surgerys cost 150,000.00 as the government talk to the doctors to have that rate drop when also the equipments cost an harm and a leg.
If you are saying that then what's the point in a doctor being a doctor if all he is going to do than is try save lifes and forget he has bills to pay because he went off to school to save lifes yes but also to make the money that is entitle for him to make.
You also telling me if a house is 200,000. to build than i should find it my heart to build it for under 100,000.00,what you are saying don't make sense the government can't dictate to the doctors. The cost of surgerys are sky rocketing everyday and we would not be in any position to keep up with that cost we don't have a minimum wage scale and the cost of living is increasing but wages are remianing the same so tell again how this is surpose to work.

You just talking politics on behalf of the FNM who you support. The plan that exist in Canada do work for the most part. it's better than having nothing at all, which the Ingraham adminstration is not likely to implement anytime soon which is a grave disservice to the general poppulation of the Bahamas.

One party I have never supported would be the FNM - I am not talking politics, I am talking reality. If the plan is so successful in Canda why do Cnadians come to the US for medical treatment? Universal healthcare generally provides substandard healthcare.

Countries with national health tax heavily for the service. It is not free by any means. I do not think it is at all possible here in the Bahamas as you would have to implement an income tax to pay for it. a high one at that. In Sweden they take half your earnings to pay for government funded programs.
Whose willing to surrender half their pay? Not me. Cost of living is too high with what I make now.

The thing is the first plan included taking contributions from everyone according to what you earned, so it was going to be funded by an income tax. Not that I mind much about an income tax really but when a government promises no income tax and then turns around on their own promises to fulfill another, in this case, levy an income tax to fund NHI, then I have a problem in supporting that. If you are going to imlement NHI, don't promise no new income taxes.

The thing is the first plan included taking contributions from everyone according to what you earned, so it was going to be funded by an income tax. Not that I mind much about an income tax really but when a government promises no income tax and then turns around on their own promises to fulfill another, in this case, levy an income tax to fund NHI, then I have a problem in supporting that. If you are going to imlement NHI, don't promise no new income taxes.
Yea, but by that token we are all being lied to as we have income taxes called National Insurance.

Correct me if I am wrong here but income taxes in the sense of the word, goes to cover various recurring government expenditures while NHI contributions would go to a fund that is specifically for NHI in the same way that NI contributions are done.

In any event I dont know if your gonna get National Health Insurance funded by another other means (i.e. out of your paycheck). If it does come from some other means then its gonna be paid either by some other fees or taxes . So were gonna foot the bill at the end of the day...less u fund it by taxing tourists or something.

Yea, but by that token we are all being lied to as we have income taxes called National Insurance.
Correct me if I am wrong here but income taxes in the sense of the word, goes to cover various recurring government expenditures while NHI contributions would go to a fund that is specifically for NHI in the same way that NI contributions are done.
In any event I dont know if your gonna get National Health Insurance funded by another other means (i.e. out of your paycheck). If it does come from some other means then its gonna be paid either by some other fees or taxes . So were gonna foot the bill at the end of the day...less u fund it by taxing tourists or something.

I should say introduce an income tax.

Well if national insurance was supposed to be run like the intended NHI, then I don't know how long you would have been able to count on that dedicated fund for NHI. Money from national insurance from time immemorial has been borrowed to fund government projects. I'm sure NHI would have ended up the same, another cash cow.

Hobo faints again, someone calling canes an FNM supporter. Wait it's Natureboy, Hobo sucks teeth and thinks to himself "that nature boy in't gat no sense naw, callin Canes an FNM supporter. Well it's Nature the most uninformed political poster on BI

BRILLIANT :cutie: ... cupcake for you, too! (low cal, no fat, no sugar, since we planning to emgirate to australia and all)

One party I have never supported would be the FNM - I am not talking politics, I am talking reality. If the plan is so successful in Canda why do Cnadians come to the US for medical treatment? Universal healthcare generally provides substandard healthcare.

Because politicians start off to grande. They should start off with basic care- first and foremost.

The reason why it always gets ballyhooed out of the reality, is because doctors and medical professionals, feel they would lose out due to them having to hand out free care. But, it can be done better, and at least for people to get preventative care and basic medicines, if we plan right with the doctors and get them on the board with incentivizing their efforts.

The politicians would want to shaft the doctors and the doctors, don;t want any type of free care- regardless of the hypocratic oath.

There can be a better, basic way- and it's NOT medicines.