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Bahamas News
12-09-04, - 09:56 PM
Cubans Riot At Detention Centre
Clunis Devaney
ZNS Staff Writer




An uprising at the detention centre on Thursday raises a question of security.

It came just one day after the Minister of Labour and Immigration, the Hon. Vincent Peet presented in the House of Assembly the report of an independent investigation into allegations of abuse against Cubans at the Detention Centre.

While there has been no direct link between today's uprising and Wednesday’s report, the incident involved a group of Cubans detained at the centre.

During the riot, three Cuban nationals escaped the Carmichael Road, western New Providence, facility. Two have since been recaptured and an intensive search is under-way for the third person.

The apparent riot also caused the Ministry of National Security officials to evacuate that facility of Cuban nationals after the government-operated detention centre was set ablaze. It is believed that the inmates lit a mattress afire, resulting in the destruction of the building.

The detention centre is a compound where illegal immigrants, mainly Haitians, Jamaicans and Cubans, are held before they are repatriated to their homelands.

There are un-confirmed reports that gunshots were heard in the vicinity of the detention centre and that several Cuban inmates were taken to the Princess Margaret Hospital. It is uncertain how they were injured or the extent of their injuries.

Commenting on the situation, Minister Peet said while he could not say whether the incident was in protest of the findings of the independent investigation regarding allegations of abuse to Cuban inmates, he made it clear that such actions will not be tolerated.

The report, prepared by a team of police investigators, denied allegations of abuse at the detention centre, saying they were “uncorroborated and untrue.” It also called for the codifications of regulations governing the operations of the centre, to guard against future assertions.

The investigation was prompted by allegations made in October by the human watchdog group, Amnesty International that Cubans held at the facility were being abused. The alleged mistreatment of Cuban detainees in The Bahamas also got outside attention when Cubans in South Florida last week staged a peaceful demonstration in front of the Bahamian Consulate in Miami.

Minister Peet said allegations made by a female Cuban immigrant of being denied essential medicine for the treatment of an illness, and other claims that two male Cubans were severely beaten and threatened at gunpoint with death by a guard, were all found to be untrue.

“Details indicate that one of the male Cuban nationals threatened to cut the throat of a caretaker at the centre,” said the Minister. “Upon being approached by a guard on duty, the Cuban national wrested away the baton or billy from the guard, who was then forced to draw his firearm to maintain order.

“Detainees and other witnesses who were present could not corroborate any assaults alleged.”

Minister Peet said steps must now be taken to review the overall management of the facility.

The government is discussing the possibility of transferring the migrants to Her Majesty’s Prison, Fox Hill.

YorickBrown
12-10-04, - 09:55 AM
The benefits of keeping yer digital camera in yer car...

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I know this may sound a bit cold, but someone better tell me dat they made dem people sleep outside in a tent last night. That's just taking advantage of the situation to come here illegally, get free food and shelter, and then to revolt and burn da people place down!

Send them straight to Fox Hill Prison for arson. :hot:

But then again ya don't know exactly what "abuse" was going on. Someone gotta leak the facts of this situation, IF there is anything more to it that is.

Delroy
12-10-04, - 09:58 AM
Man Yorick I was going to rush back home for my camara but I didn't have the time and too many cops was on the road. Yesterday was one of the few days that I didn't have my camara on me.

Great Pics :tup:

CG
12-10-04, - 11:08 AM
Man Yorick I was going to rush back home for my camara but I didn't have the time and too many cops was on the road. Yesterday was one of the few days that I didn't have my camara on me.

Great Pics :tup:

I'll bet you could kick yourself for not having your camera! I have kicked myself a few times, and for just that reason!

I also think they are great pictures.

Rizzo
12-10-04, - 12:35 PM
You should have actually tried to sell some of those pictures to the guardian or something....maybe you would've gotten some $$ for them...who knows....and I gotta get a digital camera...I keep putting that off...

CG
12-10-04, - 12:43 PM
...and I gotta get a digital camera...I keep putting that off...

Me too!
I use the "old" film type.
Anyone know of a good digital camera?
What do you use, YorikBrown?

YorickBrown
12-10-04, - 12:54 PM
Nothing spectacular.
I use a Sony Cybershot DSCP72 (3 MegaPixel w/ 3X zoom) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00008L3HY/qid=1102697376/sr=8-7/ref=pd_csp_7/103-0035897-2587805?v=glance&s=photo&n=507846) - it's only a $200 camera, but it's sturdy and easy to use...point, autofocus and shoot.

CG
12-10-04, - 02:52 PM
Nothing spectacular.
I use a Sony Cybershot DSCP72 (3 MegaPixel w/ 3X zoom) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00008L3HY/qid=1102697376/sr=8-7/ref=pd_csp_7/103-0035897-2587805?v=glance&s=photo&n=507846) - it's only a $200 camera, but it's sturdy and easy to use...point, autofocus and shoot.

Thanks. One more question. Did you buy it over the net or here in Nassau? If so where in Nassau?

Tafadhali
12-10-04, - 03:14 PM
This is sad, these people are making our country look bad, this was on CNN this morning! The government really needs to clean up this immigration problem!

Rizzo
12-10-04, - 03:26 PM
It was on cnn for real?....damn...there goes our cuban/latino.....tourists... :cool: :bouncy:

Vicky
12-10-04, - 03:41 PM
should make them sleep out side with nothing until they say who started it.

YorickBrown
12-10-04, - 04:09 PM
Thanks. One more question. Did you buy it over the net or here in Nassau? If so where in Nassau?


It was bought over the net from amazon.

bsmbahamas
12-10-04, - 04:14 PM
lol. you guys would really make em sleep outside?

Personally I think they get treated just like they do at Fox Hill.
Our police often beat our own people en route and while in detention.

I really don't believe that they would riot for no reason. Usually when there is smoke there is or was a fire.(pun intended)

These places should have closed circuit tv installed anyway just to prevent and refute allegations.

Now how are our bumbling cops gonna get to the bottom of this? The witnesses are probably to scared to testify - especially if they were indeed being threatened at gun point.

These people are wrong for burning own the place and coming here illegally but they are still entitled to be treated descently while they are here.

Can you guys imagine how bad the press will be if any of the allegations are proven to be true, although I am sure that it will covered up to protect our image.

I honestly feel that the same injustice that goes on at Fox Hill goes on there as well and they burned it down in the riot to get some attention from the government.

but hey, I can be wrong, maybe they just burned it down for fun - even though we got a huge police force and defense force to take them down - makes sense to riot for fun right?

I don't buy it, not for a second.

YorickBrown
12-10-04, - 04:40 PM
Though we can only speculate any wrongdoing by the Royal Bahamas Defence Force, especially since the results of the investigation came up inconclusive, two wrongs don't make a right - any way you look at it.

Under international law they have to be treated humanely (no outside tents like I said earlier :sarcastic), but they also have to be held to the responsibility of respecting the rules, laws and guidelines of The Bahamas, including the conditions under which they are being detained. They did BREAK laws to get into that situation.

To put things in perspective, imagine if this had happened in the US? This most likely would be declared an act of terrorism. In fact, this instance of arson CAN be defined as terrorism - The detention center compound is Bahamas Government property and our military forces were under threat of attack from foreign entities.

:sailing: If relocation to another country was in their future, I'd doubt it now. The ones found responsible aren't going anywhere any time soon.

Vicky
12-10-04, - 07:25 PM
lol. you guys would really make em sleep outside?

Personally I think they get treated just like they do at Fox Hill.
Our police often beat our own people en route and while in detention.

I really don't believe that they would riot for no reason. Usually when there is smoke there is or was a fire.(pun intended)

These places should have closed circuit tv installed anyway just to prevent and refute allegations.

Now how are our bumbling cops gonna get to the bottom of this? The witnesses are probably to scared to testify - especially if they were indeed being threatened at gun point.

These people are wrong for burning own the place and coming here illegally but they are still entitled to be treated descently while they are here.

Can you guys imagine how bad the press will be if any of the allegations are proven to be true, although I am sure that it will covered up to protect our image.

I honestly feel that the same injustice that goes on at Fox Hill goes on there as well and they burned it down in the riot to get some attention from the government.

but hey, I can be wrong, maybe they just burned it down for fun - even though we got a huge police force and defense force to take them down - makes sense to riot for fun right?

I don't buy it, not for a second.

If they need to burn something to attract attention they could have burned the mattress out side. They did not have to destroy the building.
They must understand what they did, the problems they caused. I am not saying they did not have just reason to attract attention but they did not have to destroy the building. The problem is now where will they stay. That is the reality.
They should not have been detained in the first place unless they were going to be sent back to their own country. If the law says send the back then do so. If the law is unfair then change it so that it is fair. But do not detain people for simply running away from conditions in their own country that is unfair. But that still does not give them the right to burn down a building.
Do you know how many homeless Bahamians could have lived in the building??