He would be locked up?

Why would he be locked up

Why would he be locked up


because its called murder, and thats illegal in most countries ....

because its called murder, and thats illegal in most countries ....

Why should it be illegal to sacrifice your son to the Creator? Most especially if the Creator told the father to do it..

You have way too much free time to be filling up this board with long posts that do not prove your point.

Here are just a few ...

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 10:32
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

I can find more in the 4 gospels and throughout the entire new testament.
There is no mention of believing in the Creator for salvation - it is always said that salvation comes by way of faith in Jesus not by works.

I can find many verses to suggest that, but seeing that you have so much time maybe you can do some more searching with different keywords.

Why would he be locked up

Because they would thing he was a nut!

Because they would thing he was a nut!


Plus, to my knowledge - God no longer requires sacrifices, Jesus was the final sacrifice - and he was God's son.

Now we only have to pray for forgiveness.

Of course I am speaking about christianity/God of the bible.

Because they would thing he was a nut!


exactly!
and if he were to have said it to any ohter person he would have been looked at as mad...and probably stoned!
they did it then and they do it now!!
:cheers:

Sorry it took so long to respond to your post bsmbahamas. I breezed through the four pages of thread, will post on the article you presented, but I'll go back later and read through the four pages in more detail. Before I begin, I feel I should mention one thing, your reading material, Dr. Rebecca Brown - you must know what to keep and what to throw away.
If I remember correctly, Chick Enterprises Publishings tend to convey a hefty dose of fear. Fear is not from Yahweh, while they do provide SOME facts, they don't provide all. In any event, I'm going to suggest you check out the writings of William Schoenoblen.

"God: Of course sex is "okay." … Play with sex. Play with it! It’s wonderful fun. (205)"
Now, about this jackhole (the one who posted this filth above), I didn't read the whole thing, I read as far as I could stand and stopped.
First off, look around you in the room where you are right now. Light Switch. Find a box of matches. Find a lighter. Look at your faucet.
Now consider this, Lucifer has a god complex. Everything he says or does is a carbon copy of Yahweh with a slight distortion to it in an attempt to one-up Yahweh.
Anyone who knows anything of ritual magick will agree with this. Whenever you summon a spirit, one or two things are needed.
1. A wand.
2. A vesica.
When you open a bottle of wine (or other spirits), ever notice how it has a hole in the top? Ever notice that part of the bottle resembles a certain part of male anatomy?
Isn't your light switch designed on the same principle of the penis/clitoris?
What about your faucet, isn't that in schematic principle a penis shaped mechanism? Look at a match, isn't it a wand?
This has been going on for AGES, some artists have used what is called "Sacred Geometry" to design existing artifacts to produce certain "magical" results. To summon the spirit of fire, use the wand (match) and strike it. For the spirit of light for a room, flip the wand (switch), to summon the spirit of water to take bath, it has to come through the wand (faucet). Today few would consider these processes are no longer magical.

Oh how easy it is to slip a magikal concept into everyday ordinary actions and the users not even be aware.

Well again, look at your body. Male bodies are generally made with "wands" female bodies with "vesicas" - in summoning a spirit (whether that spirit be one of love, lust or another human) the use of the capabilities of both "wand" and "vesica" are somewhat inescapable.
I believe we were given these parts of our anatomy for a reason, I believe Lucifer has taken these parts of our anatomy, symbolized, glorified them for his purposes and then presented a skewered notion back to us that we can do what we feel like when it comes to 'summoning spirits with our respective wand and vesica'.
I believe that any soul that presents "sex", or manipulation of wand and vesica for friviolity sake without consequence speaks of a thought or inclination they receive from a Luciferian agent. For those who have misunderstood me in other posts, this does not automatically make the person stupid, it does however, make his post stupid.
And if even ritual magicians with their "notion" of the wand and vesica understand that it is only to be used witin certain parameters, why is it so hard to understand and accept that whomever you sex, is whoever you are married to? Once one person's 'wand' goes into another's 'vesica' (or whathaveyou) those two become a part of one process.

I do not post this to "bash" others, I feel this is why marriage was created, I feel marriage is the parameter given to us for sex to be exercised in. I know within MYSELF that my "wand" was not meant for a cat, a baby or a hedgehog or any other male but myself. I understand the joy that can come from my wand but I understand that there are degrees of joy, for me, the utmost degrees of joy (in terms of sex) are accomplished when I operate within the sacred parameter given to me. Joy does NOT equivocate to Sacred.

"Your George Bush, whom history will judge to be a man of far greater wisdom, vision, compassion, and courage than contemporary society was willing or able to acknowledge, was such a leader. So was Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev . . . . (199)
Hitler was wise to some people, he was a visionary to some people, he was compassionate to some people and he was courageous to some people (up to the point where he took his own life)...I'm sure he was those things and more to some people. But does that justify and obviate what he did for those he hurt?
If it does, by the same token, I'm sure there are people who consider Neale Donald Walsch stupid, blind, cruel-hearted and a big nuss - he too should then take his own life since what one does here during their existence doesn't matter. If Mr. Walsch really believed this, he would've killed himself by now.

This "New Thought Movement" would only be "new" for people who haven't done their homework. The presented notion of "Black is White and White is Black" is old...too old.

Because they would thing he was a nut!


nah, because he WOULD be a nutcase, and a murderer ...

and one section talks about demons being good and respectable?

When we have "discussions" on bahamasissues.com there are people who agree whole-heartedly, people who ardently disagree, and people that may be fitted within the category of "somewhere in the middle."
Well, you have to bear in mind that all of the angels cast out of Heaven weren't just the angels that agreed with Lucifer in wanting to destroy humanity, there were and still are "casties" who don't agree with the programs Lucifer has chosen to follow through with.
Not all of the angels cast out bear the same sentiment.

There were some who wanted to settle down and start a family, there are also some who believe that Yahweh is wrong for letting so much evil abound in the world.
Some angels, sincerely believe they can, by themselves, make a positive difference in the world. There are even some angels sent to police/patrol the earth that see way more evil in the space of five minutes than you would see all year on CNN, some are moved to the point to act upon circumstances without sanction. Sometimes, this interaction, no matter how good-intentioned may or may not add more complexity to a situation than it would otherwise have.
Now before people start with the proverbial rock-chucking, it is in this context, and this context alone (this is important) and even then TO AN EXTENT, can we consider that there are good demons and evil demons.

With that said, the initial question I would suggest one ought to ask themselves is, "Ok, do I really want to chance the very happening of courting or asking something from this angel/demon who I believe to be good only to pay a rather hefty consequence finding out it really wasn't good?"

See? Not all demons are all bad, but by the same token, not all are all "good" either. So, for those that have hardened polarities when it comes to good and bad, they fit somewhere...in the middle.
The person who entertains/promotes notions of, 'Go ahead, take a gamble and ask the pretty-winged, shiny beings for providence or aid' yet conveniently fails to mention that you very well could find your own backside handed to you is a very...malicious individual.


The Biblical Book of Job mentions briefly that angels too make mistakes, personally, I got nothing against the angels that have remained loyal to their Creator, but I'd rather not deal with any when/if I have that choice afforded to me.
Situations like this, show the proverbial aspects of the Two Trees of Eden. We have it pounded into our heads in certain socialities, that morality is cool. Morals have to do with the ability to discern good and evil. The Knowledge of Good and Evil were on one tree. Life or Righteousness on the other. The former tree, Edom and Hawwah were instructed not to partake of, and today there still pervades within Christanity the dogma of "God is Good" or Moral.

Good and Evil really makes no difference to Yahweh, Yahweh (even in the Bible) is a being of righteousness. People like King David, Solomon, Moses, Samson, Noah...they were all good, and yet evil people. Yet they retain heavy consideration as far as Yahweh is concerned as a result of their faith in Them. This is the essence of The Messiah's Gospel: Faith is Righteous. Even in The Bible, I daresay, it wasn't moral deeds that created the universe.

First of all I want to thank you for your reply. I have asked the question, "What is a Christian?" often on this site and you are the first to reply (unless I missed a post, or have forgotten.) Forsooth, thou hast cut me to the quick. In 'Why is there a resentment of Christians?' I responded indirectly by saying "Follow the words in red."

Notice when I criticize the same sex marriage I did so on a forum in a debate which was setup to discuss the subject - I don't go out of my way to protest against the GBLT community.
Yes, but is there any forum of YOUR life wherein Jesus Christ is locked out? Is there any aspect of YOUR life that is not set up to accommodate your Saviour?
Not too long ago, the same thing was being said about "Ni88ers" and them knowing their respective places. Am I "going out of my way" or wrong for "marrying outside of my race" just because the KKK believe it to be so? Was Rosa Parks wrong for "going out of her way" and inconveniencing those people on that bus? What about The Late Great Sir Pindling and the mace? What about the strikes our fellow predecessing Bahamians did in the '60 for their rights? Ask Demos and CG cause I lil' bit rusty on muh history, I wasn't there.
(I don't mean anything untoward when I say this Vicky, so please don't take offense and if you do, please forgive me.)
But now, according to the Bible which you hold in high regard, bsmbahamas - an as5 was given a message for Balaam by God. If God gives messages for prophets to as5es (and you can accept that) why is it SO hard for you to understand and accept that PERHAPS God has a message for you in Vicky?
By definition, an activist is one who takes action to achieve a political or social end. That is what Vicky is. That is the role the as5 occupied in conjunction with Balaam.
And as mentioned before in another post, as5es have a special place in YOUR God's Animal Kingdom and in His Heavenly Kingdom, but there seems to be an epidemic of myopia when it comes to seeing beyond the proverbial lions, stallions and lambs.
How many times must I ask this: in giving geneologies in The Bible, for the most part women were left out. WHAT else was left out? Look at Vicky's avatar. Think. Vicky IS and goes "out of way" to show you something.

Here's a good question vicky - adultery was punishable by death in the pre-Jesus days but now it has no penalty at all, at least that I know of. Why aren't the radicals protesting against adultery?
True, no legal penalty... Perhaps there are no protests because for some adultery is not a radical issue.
Because it costs money for men to marry other men, there's no business in marrying two people once and then das it. But quite a profitable cut can be procured if people don't work out, get divorced and married again. More Singles ministries, then more weddings, more money, more white 'sepulchres' can be constructed so that we can start the entire wedding cycle again.
Like the guy from The Fifth Element say, "Gimme da casssssssssssshhhhh."
But all religions have a right to advise the government on matters that will affect society All people do, but not all religions. To the best of my knowledge there is no assembled Bahamas Voodoo Council shaking raw wet chickens all up in other people business and thrusting invultuations in government affairs.
In fact, if I remember correctly...isn't Voodoo illegal in The Bahamas? Somebody help muh with that, please.

Forsooth, thou hast cut me to the quick. In 'Why is there a resentment of Christians?' I responded indirectly by saying "Follow the words in red."

So you did! :o My apologies, but it was an indirect answer.

You have way too much free time to be filling up this board with long posts that do not prove your point.

Here are just a few ...

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 10:32
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

I can find more in the 4 gospels and throughout the entire new testament.
There is no mention of believing in the Creator for salvation - it is always said that salvation comes by way of faith in Jesus not by works.

I can find many verses to suggest that, but seeing that you have so much time maybe you can do some more searching with different keywords.

Uh sorry you made the claim "Christ said he was the Son of God" I simply corrected you. Christ said he was the Son of man. Others called "Christ the Son of God"
As I said before I don't live the way I do for reward I live it because it is a good way to live. The Creator does not have to dangle a treat for me to do something. (as an animal trainer) I just do it as best I can. I think the differance between you and I is I see all as the creation of the Creator and it all serves the Creators purpose. You only see Christians as serving the Creators purpose.
When Creation was finished the Creator said it was good.

Because they would thing he was a nut!

So don't we think Abraham was a nut?

Uh sorry you made the claim "Christ said he was the Son of God" I simply corrected you. Christ said he was the Son of man. Others called "Christ the Son of God"
As I said before I don't live the way I do for reward I live it because it is a good way to live. The Creator does not have to dangle a treat for me to do something. (as an animal trainer) I just do it as best I can. I think the differance between you and I is I see all as the creation of the Creator and it all serves the Creators purpose. You only see Christians as serving the Creators purpose.
When Creation was finished the Creator said it was good.


but it was good vicky, at least until Adam ate the forbidden fruit. That seemed to really get 'the creator' upset. everything can't be good if the creator gave commandments and laws to govern us by. it was good, just like a brand new car is good until you start using it and something goes wrong.

of course you don't beleive in the creation account or the god of the bible.

but it was good vicky, at least until Adam ate the forbidden fruit. That seemed to really get 'the creator' upset. everything can't be good if the creator gave commandments and laws to govern us by. it was good, just like a brand new car is good until you start using it and something goes wrong.
OOoH. Might I suggest you ask yourself why three Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient beings would get together and give quasi-functional commandments and laws to us, to govern us, when they saw what we did with what was "good"?
How many times must I ask this: in giving geneologies in The Bible, for the most part women were left out. WHAT else was left out? Look at Vicky's avatar. Think. Vicky IS and goes "out of way" to show you something.

So good in fact that HE felt it necessary to introduce _____________.
Fill it in.