what do you guys think of the following pages ...
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/cwhbcv3-98.html
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/eo13011-798.html

seems like the one world government of peace and equality
for all is well on its way - isn't the antichrist suppose to bring
a worldwide government and peace?

I am coming across a lot of info that seems to say that the
antichrist is already here and setting up shop for world peace.

we will soon have equality for all, by tossing out God's word
and being monitored by the new government that will support
many religions and I guess many gods as well.

There goes the first commandment and greatest commandment ...

Matthew 22:34-40

34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

for religious people, anything void of God spells trouble!!
usualy for us!
:voodoo:

what do you guys think of the following pages ...
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/cwhbcv3-98.html
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/eo13011-798.html

seems like the one world government of peace and equality
for all is well on its way - isn't the antichrist suppose to bring
a worldwide government and peace?

I am coming across a lot of info that seems to say that the
antichrist is already here and setting up shop for world peace.

we will soon have equality for all, by tossing out God's word
and being monitored by the new government that will support
many religions and I guess many gods as well.

There goes the first commandment and greatest commandment ...

Matthew 22:34-40

34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Is it not strange that for us to achieve true peace and equality we have to throw out God? (Or so you seem to suggest.) I don't think we have to do that.

Should such a government come along I doubt they would support many religions. What they would see is that religion is a part of the human condition but it can be a divisive thing. I think they would tolerant all religions without giving allegiance to any one religion. The hardest job they would have would be to make people of different religions tolerant each other.

As for the Anti-Christ already being here? Who can say? In the past it was supposed to be Nero, then Hitler, then.......the list goes on and on. I heard somewhere that Jesus would come back for his perfected Church. If that is the case we have a l-o-n-g way to go!

There is a verse you quoted. I know what it means and what Jesus meant when he said it, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." But if all religions loved their God with all their hearts, we would not be in the mess we are in. If they also follow the second quotation,"Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." We would have a paradise on earth. There would be no room for an anti-Christ.

Is it not strange that for us to achieve true peace and equality we have to throw out God? (Or so you seem to suggest.) I don't think we have to do that.

Should such a government come along I doubt they would support many religions. What they would see is that religion is a part of the human condition but it can be a divisive thing. I think they would tolerant all religions without giving allegiance to any one religion. The hardest job they would have would be to make people of different religions tolerant each other.

As for the Anti-Christ already being here? Who can say? In the past it was supposed to be Nero, then Hitler, then.......the list goes on and on. I heard somewhere that Jesus would come back for his perfected Church. If that is the case we have a l-o-n-g way to go!

There is a verse you quoted. I know what it means and what Jesus meant when he said it, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." But if all religions loved their God with all their hearts, we would not be in the mess we are in. If they also follow the second quotation,"Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." We would have a paradise on earth. There would be no room for an anti-Christ.


You hit the nail on the head so well there must have been sparks.
Also add in that Christ taught heaven is not some place you go it is not here or there but it is within us.

what do you guys think of the following pages ...
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/cwhbcv3-98.html
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/eo13011-798.html

seems like the one world government of peace and equality
for all is well on its way - isn't the antichrist suppose to bring
a worldwide government and peace?

I am coming across a lot of info that seems to say that the
antichrist is already here and setting up shop for world peace.

we will soon have equality for all, by tossing out God's word
and being monitored by the new government that will support
many religions and I guess many gods as well.

There goes the first commandment and greatest commandment ...

Matthew 22:34-40

34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

About the anti christ, I feel his identity and will be misinterpreted just as the coming and identity of jesus, elijah/john and all the other prophecies were misread by the people of its time.
The word anti christ never appears in the book of revelation or daniel. They speak of the beast. Revelation speaks of two beasts. Where ever the bible speaks of beasts it is talking about a nation.
The first beast rev 13: 1-10 was Rome. Jesus also spoke of this beast. He said the are many antichrists one of them exist now. You will remember that it was rome that severely persecuted the christians bringing to pass jesus' prophecies in matthew 24. Yes they have all come to pass.
The great whore Babylon Which sits on the beast is the church (Roman Catholic to be exact). The beast she rode on was Rome (the city famous for its seven mountains.
Revelation then speaks of a second beast Rev 13: 11-18. It is a copy of the first beast. This is the anti christ that people speak of today.
It said;
it has 2 political powers/groups/parties
Spoke as a dragon. When it speaks it does so with great authority.
Has all the power of the first beast Rome. They great superpower/war monger.
He maketh fire come down from the sky in the eyes of all men. Sort of like the world watching CNN as fire fell from the sky onto iraq.
It uses its power to deceive the whole world appearing as the good guy when it is really evil.
I choose not to reveal the mystery of the rest of script about this second beast. You take it as you will.
Think about it, everyone is expecting this man to come and tell you to put a mark on your hand or forehead. If someone comes and tries that don't you think he will be rejected. come on! The beast is here and you don't recognize it!

I feel it is already here as well ... and that many have already received the mark - the only thing soon to come is that you will be prohibited from buying, trading, selling.

I feel that Cuba is a victim of this beast and more nations will follow, only they won't be left to live on their own, they will slaughtered for not accepting the mark.

I have heard people say the mark is the computer. I feel like it may be a combination of the computer and television.

I think the television is used to spread propoganda and subtly influence the unsuspecting with its agendas. While the computers, or rather everything becoming computerized can bring any nation to a halt by a team of hackers within minutes right now.

Think about a nation being heavily reliant on computer networks e.g. traffic lights, medical records, criminal records, etc ... and a team of hackers or system administrators using built in backdoors to bring down all of the computers in a given city. What would happen if they then refuse to buy, sell or trade with that nation?

It may be quite a cynical picture, but what would happen if the beast said that everyone needed to get that little rice sized chip implanted and killed those that refused while haulting trading with that nation at the same time.

Personally, I can see countries being invaded like Iraq, chips being implanted or persons being killed. And they will probably use the concept of equality for all as the reason why this must happen - democracy will then become imposed communism. And all those people begging for equality for all will finally be happy - perhaps.

It ain't that hard. They will probably start with advertising, showing how many problems will be solved, etc until they have a majority vote that we need this new one world government and actually want it. They just have to convince us subtly until we bite the bait.

Heh ...

CG and Vicky seem to already accept the idea that God is in us and not external. I don't think they believe the bible because it has been tampered with. However, for those that do, it said that we were created by God - therefore he had to exist before we were created - he may be in us, as he is omnipresent but I honestly beleive that he is an external 'being' for lack of a better word.

Once enough people are convinced that the world will be a better place without gods and religion, they will be removed and replaced by a one world government ... and we all know that man has yet to establish a government type that works.

It is impossible, with or without a god - we can't help ourselves, there will always be rape, murder, prostitution, greed, lust, envy, lying, stealing and definetly unfairness toward our fellowman(I could fill a page). We can't even get around racism, but there is truthfully only one human race.

I feel it is already here as well ... and that many have already received the mark - the only thing soon to come is that you will be prohibited from buying, trading, selling.
How about W.T.O. FTAA
I feel that Cuba is a victim of this beast and more nations will follow, only they won't be left to live on their own, they will slaughtered for not accepting the mark.

I have heard people say the mark is the computer. I feel like it may be a combination of the computer and television.How about the telephone? Try living with out one. Not to mention credit cards.
I think the television is used to spread propoganda and subtly influence the unsuspecting with its agendas. While the computers, or rather everything becoming computerized can bring any nation to a halt by a team of hackers within minutes right now.

Think about a nation being heavily reliant on computer networks e.g. traffic lights, medical records, criminal records, etc ... and a team of hackers or system administrators using built in backdoors to bring down all of the computers in a given city. What would happen if they then refuse to buy, sell or trade with that nation?

It may be quite a cynical picture, but what would happen if the beast said that everyone needed to get that little rice sized chip implanted and killed those that refused while haulting trading with that nation at the same time.

Personally, I can see countries being invaded like Iraq, chips being implanted or persons being killed. And they will probably use the concept of equality for all as the reason why this must happen - democracy will then become imposed communism. And all those people begging for equality for all will finally be happy - perhaps.

It ain't that hard. They will probably start with advertising, showing how many problems will be solved, etc until they have a majority vote that we need this new one world government and actually want it. They just have to convince us subtly until we bite the bait.

Heh ...

CG and Vicky seem to already accept the idea that God is in us and not external. I don't think they believe the bible because it has been tampered with. However, for those that do, it said that we were created by God - therefore he had to exist before we were created - he may be in us, as he is omnipresent but I honestly beleive that he is an external 'being' for lack of a better word.
Now you are starting to understand. NOTHING is without (as in outside) the Creator. Nothing not you not me not the ameba not even the evil one.
[QUOTE=bsmbahamas]Once enough people are convinced that the world will be a better place without gods and religion, they will be removed and replaced by a one world government ... and we all know that man has yet to establish a government type that works.

It is impossible, with or without a god - we can't help ourselves, there will always be rape, murder, prostitution, greed, lust, envy, lying, stealing and definetly unfairness toward our fellowman(I could fill a page). We can't even get around racism, but there is truthfully only one human race.

CG and Vicky seem to already accept the idea that God is in us and not external.
Just a quick correction. I can't speak for Vicky but I don't think I said God is not external too. St. Paul wrote in Ephesians 3:15 "I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith." Does that mean he lives and walks around in our arteries and heart valves? Of course not any more that the Buddha does when a Buddhist talks about the Buddha Nature within us. Any more that God does when we say he lives in our hearts. To say God, Jesus or the Buddha is within does not exclude the possibility they are without as well. (Except of course the Buddha, who is dead.) This is a way of saying that the being in question words live within and one tries to live by them - as I am sure you understand

I don't think they believe the bible because it has been tampered with.
Of course it has! But find me a Holy Book of any faith that has not! The fact that it has been "tampered with" ( I prefer the word "revised") does not exclude it as a great book of wisdom that can be used for the betterment of one's life, spiritual or other wise. I read it!

Just a quick correction. I can't speak for Vicky but I don't think I said God is not external too. St. Paul wrote in Ephesians 3:15 "I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith." Does that mean he lives and walks around in our arteries and heart valves? Of course not any more that the Buddha does when a Buddhist talks about the Buddha Nature within us. Any more that God does when we say he lives in our hearts. To say God, Jesus or the Buddha is within does not exclude the possibility they are without as well. (Except of course the Buddha, who is dead.) This is a way of saying that the being in question words live within and one tries to live by them - as I am sure you understand


Indeed, I stand corrected.


Of course it has! But find me a Holy Book of any faith that has not! The fact that it has been "tampered with" ( I prefer the word "revised") does not exclude it as a great book of wisdom that can be used for the betterment of one's life, spiritual or other wise. I read it!


Yes, I also read a lot of motivational stuff like Og Mandino, Napoleon Hill, etc.
I think that all religions have some 'revisions', because there is always somebody that has an issue with some of the rules/guidelines/principles of the religion that branch off and form sub-groups that cater to their needs.
Typical example - Baptists stress baptism, and their are now churches that have pastors that will marry people of the same gender and feel there is nothing wrong with doing this - even though marriage was given for man and woman and homosexuality is a sin.

Personally I think they are just trying to fill and dominate a niche, even it does not line up biblically. The speaker in revelation, Jesus (?), said he was only pleased with 2 of the 7 churches way back then, so imagine how many he is not pleased with now with so many revisions taking place. (I don't even think there was such a thing as denominations or pastors)

Indeed, I stand corrected.



Yes, I also read a lot of motivational stuff like Og Mandino, Napoleon Hill, etc.
I think that all religions have some 'revisions', because there is always somebody that has an issue with some of the rules/guidelines/principles of the religion that branch off and form sub-groups that cater to their needs.
Typical example - Baptists stress baptism, and their are now churches that have pastors that will marry people of the same gender and feel there is nothing wrong with doing this - even though marriage was given for man and woman and homosexuality is a sin.
With you posting this I must ask you this again.
Homosexuality is a sin for whom??? which religion??
What would make a eunuch a homosexual?? after all eunuchs can be sexualy active.
Who were the laws of Moses for? Clue last verse Leviticus.
Do you live by Christ teachings or Pauls???
What did Christ say about homosexuality??
Now you are going to point out Pauls letters. Do you live by all of Pauls rules???



Personally I think they are just trying to fill and dominate a niche, even it does not line up biblically. The speaker in revelation, Jesus (?), Just a quicky here revelations was written 125 years after Christ death by someone named John. More than likely Not John the disciple. said he was only pleased with 2 of the 7 churches way back then, so imagine how many he is not pleased with now with so many revisions taking place. (I don't even think there was such a thing as denominations or pastors)

With you posting this I must ask you this again.
Homosexuality is a sin for whom??? which religion??
What would make a eunuch a homosexual?? after all eunuchs can be sexualy active.
Who were the laws of Moses for? Clue last verse Leviticus.
Do you live by Christ teachings or Pauls???
What did Christ say about homosexuality??
Now you are going to point out Pauls letters. Do you live by all of Pauls rules???
Just a quicky here revelations was written 125 years after Christ death by someone named John. More than likely Not John the disciple.


I am referring to the christian religion, as we were speaking about the bible being tampered with. I do believe you said constantine created the bible. Yet the Pagan Emperor Constantine somehow included verses that spoke out against homosexuallity. Pagans don't have a big problem with homosexuality but the bible assembled by a pagan emperor includes verses that speak against homosexuality.

I live by the whole bible, as much as I can. I don't follow all the rules, I haven't even read the entire bible yet. The point is I don't teach others it is ok to do the opposite of what the bible says. Nobody is perfect and nobody can follow every rule/law/commandment - however to teach others to break the commandments or to commit sins and say that it is ok is wrong and forbidden by Jesus himself.

You do follow Jesus' teaching don't you?

Well here is what he said about those that break the least of the commandments and teach others to do so:

Matthew 5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

By the way Paul was a Christian - a follower of Christ.

Marriage was created by God for man and woman not same sex, and homosexuality is still a sin, whether Jesus spoke about it or not. He didn't say anything about it being ok, or anything about same sex marriages being ok either. The lack of his discussion on both subjects does not equate to it being acceptable.

Jesus knew the scriptures and the law and quoted them often, the Law was given by God to Moses, Jesus spoke to the people who put him on the spot about them not following Moses' Law many times. So he obviously respected them and also said he did not come to destroy the law. (Matthew 5:17)

If you are not a christian you are free to do as you please, but CG and I were speaking about christian law, so no need to attack me.

Also, regardless of who wrote the book of Revelations or any other book of the bible, they are all accepted as being canonical and divinely inspired.

Believe what you wish and do as you please. But if you ask me about homosexuality you will always get the same answer, direct from the bible.

Nobody is forcing anything on you, you were born into this society, and it is you that are opposing our rules. Homosexuality is not illegal as far as I know under our law - but homosexual marriage is.

The law makers makes the laws and they don't make them based solely on the bible or advice from christian groups. This is why any group can advise the government on the laws or amending or creating new laws.

And just for the record, I repeat again, I do not influence the law or speak out publicly against homosexuality or same sex marriages - only on forums where opinions are asked and sometimes valued. Homosexuality is just another sin, and many are thankful that they are not put to death like in the old days - even though murderers are still able to be put to death under our laws. Further proof that the law makers are not subject to the bible and its laws/commandments.

I am referring to the christian religion, as we were speaking about the bible being tampered with. I do believe you said constantine created the bible. Yet the Pagan Emperor Constantine somehow included verses that spoke out against homosexuallity. Pagans don't have a big problem with homosexuality but the bible assembled by a pagan emperor includes verses that speak against homosexuality.
That is a question that you will have to ask Constantine. My guess is it was insagnifacant. Just as you will have no other God be fore me, and You can only get to the Father through me. As Constantine stayed a Pagan till near his death well after the Bible was canonized.
I live by the whole bible, as much as I can. I don't follow all the rules,rules or laws. I haven't even read the entire bible yet. The point is I don't teach others it is ok to do the opposite of what the bible says. Have you ever told someone that they could eat a cheeseburger or a pepperoni cheese pizza??? Ever told someone its ok to eat conch or crawfish??? Ever told someone that has a mold or deformity to go up to the alter in the church??? Nobody is perfect and nobody can follow every rule/law/commandment - however to teach others to break the commandments or to commit sins and say that it is ok is wrong and forbidden by Jesus himself.

You do follow Jesus' teaching don't you?

Well here is what he said about those that break the least of the commandments and teach others to do so:

Matthew 5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Here you go again using verses out of context. I have added color to words to help you. Please note the Blue words. First Christ is talking about the law Then he is talking about commandments. 2 very different things. Besides that Christ clearly states that he has come to fulfill the laws that would not be changed until they are fulfiled. hhhmmm
Matthew 5:17-19 (King James Version)
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


By the way Paul was a Christian - a follower of Christ.
And your point is????
Marriage was created by God for man and woman not same sex, and homosexuality is still a sin, yes it is a sin. For the children of Israel in mount Sinai.
Leviticus 26:46
These are the statutes and judgments and laws, which the LORD made between him and the children of Israel in mount Sinai by the hand of Moses.
I am not an Israelite and the Bahamas is not Mt Sinai.
whether Jesus spoke about it or not. He didn't say anything about it being ok, or anything about same sex marriages being ok either. The lack of his discussion on both subjects does not equate to it being acceptable. Other than his answering a question what id Christ say about marriage??Luke 20:34
And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: Please not Christ did not say man and woman nor did he say male and female nor husband and wife. He said children

Jesus knew the scriptures and the law and quoted them often, the Law was given by God to Moses, Jesus spoke to the people who put him on the spot about them not following Moses' Law many times. So he obviously respected them and also said he did not come to destroy the law. (Matthew 5:17)

If you are not a christian you are free to do as you please, but CG and I were speaking about christian law, so no need to attack me. not attacking you just pointing out hypocricies in your claims.

Also, regardless of who wrote the book of Revelations or any other book of the bible, they are all accepted as being canonical and divinely inspired. and the world was accepted as being flat as well. You have to remember The canonical version of the Bible was pushed down peoples throats at the end of a sword and gun. Tell a lie long enough and loud enough soon people believe it is truth.

Believe what you wish and do as you please. But if you ask me about homosexuality you will always get the same answer, direct from the bible.

Nobody is forcing anything on you, you were born into this society, and it is you that are opposing our rules. Homosexuality is not illegal as far as I know under our law - but homosexual marriage is.

The law makers makes the laws and they don't make them based solely on the bible or advice from christian groups. This is why any group can advise the government on the laws or amending or creating new laws.

And just for the record, I repeat again, I do not influence the law or speak out publicly against homosexuality or same sex marriages - only on forums where opinions are asked and sometimes valued. Homosexuality is just another sin, and many are thankful that they are not put to death like in the old days - even though murderers are still able to be put to death under our laws. Further proof that the law makers are not subject to the bible and its laws/commandments.

Christ clearly states that he has come to fulfill the laws that would not be changed until they are fulfiled. hhhmmm

Matthew 5:17-19 (King James Version)
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


has heaven or earth already passed away, if not, then all is not fulfilled yet?
Also we can just throw away the book of revelations as well, even though Jesus said he will return to judge the wicked. All has not been fulfilled because Jesus has not yet returned for the judgement.


Other than his answering a question what did Christ say about marriage??

Luke 20:34
And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: Please not Christ did not say man and woman nor did he say male and female nor husband and wife. He said children not attacking you just pointing out hypocricies in your claims.

That is baloney. I never quoted that verse. Jesus was answering a question about who the woman would be married to becasue she had many husbands. He said the children of this world marry, but there will be no marriages in heaven.

the verse I gave was concerning divorce, and I point out that Jesus was speaking of a man and a woman being married/divorced not 2 persons of the same gender.

Matthew 19:3-12

3The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
7They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.

It is clear that marriage was between a male and a female, he even says that from the beginning he made them male and female ...

11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

Perhaps you are a eunuch from your mother's womb and cannot receive this saying?

has heaven or earth already passed away, if not, then all is not fulfilled yet?
Also we can just throw away the book of revelations as well, even though Jesus said he will return to judge the wicked. All has not been fulfilled because Jesus has not yet returned for the judgement.
The big question is has heaven and earth passed for whom? Heaven and earth passed what? Are you thinking of the destruction of earth and heaven? Nowhere in the Bible does it say heaven will be destroyed.
For me Christ is referring to the passing of time to lead up to his death. His death changed life on earth and when he went to heaven it to has changed. Did you not read where Christ said “I go and prepare a place for you”? Heaven and earth did pass, as mankind understood it.



That is baloney. I never quoted that verse. Jesus was answering a question about who the woman would be married to becasue she had many husbands. He said the children of this world marry, but there will be no marriages in heaven.

the verse I gave was concerning divorce, and I point out that Jesus was speaking of a man and a woman being married/divorced not 2 persons of the same gender.


Ah now you see my point. Or at least I hope you do. You are using a verse out of context and I can do the same. Please read the passage from the Bible below. The Pharisees asked the question about man to put away his wife. He was responding about a man and his wife.
However Christ does speak of the Creation of male and female. And the question is answered. But in his next breath he also tell the people that are listening that there are human that don't fit the male female roll. His reference of them is eunuch. He then says He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. Another words they to are human and let them have union and divorce as well. After all what do you call a child born with a penis so small it appears as a clitoris and it have undecided testis. What do you call it when a child is born with a clitoris that will function, as a penis yet there is a virgina and other variations? These humans have been on earth long before Christ and they are here now. Medical sciences has also shown that this effect in the womb that creates eunuch aka ambiguous sex can also effect the brain and have little to no effect on the gentiles.



Matthew 19:3-12

3The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
7They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.

It is clear that marriage was between a male and a female, he even says that from the beginning he made them male and female ...

11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

Perhaps you are a eunuch from your mother's womb and cannot receive this saying?


Ah but it is the eunuch that can recive the saying. or can't you read

However Christ does speak of the Creation of male and female. And the question is answered. But in his next breath he also tell the people that are listening that there are human that don't fit the male female roll. His reference of them is eunuch. He then says He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. Another words they to are human and let them have union and divorce as well. After all what do you call a child born with a penis so small it appears as a clitoris and it have undecided testis. What do you call it when a child is born with a clitoris that will function, as a penis yet there is a virgina and other variations? These humans have been on earth long before Christ and they are here now. Medical sciences has also shown that this effect in the womb that creates eunuch aka ambiguous sex can also effect the brain and have little to no effect on the gentiles.


a eunuch or hermaphrodite isn't te same as a homosexual.