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mafia princess
03-08-08, - 01:15 PM
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Warren Buffett has replaced Bill Gates as the richest person in the world, according to Forbes magazine.

In its annual ranking of the world's wealthiest people, the magazine estimated Wednesday that Buffett's worth was $62 billion.
Carlos Slim Helú, the Mexican telecommunications magnate, came in second with an estimated worth of $60 billion, pushing Gates to third place after 13 years of holding the No. 1 spot.

The magazine estimated Gates's worth at $58 billion.
Buffett's rise to No. 1 was particularly noteworthy, Forbes said, as it came at a time of great financial turmoil and as Buffett has begun to siphon off part of his fortune to charity.

"Even though he is giving away a piece of his fortune each year, the stock of Berkshire Hathaway, the source of Warren Buffett's wealth, has been rising very rapidly," said Steve Forbes, chief executive of Forbes.
He noted that Buffett's fortune had increased $10 billion in the last calendar year.

Buffett announced plans in June 2006 to give 85 percent of his fortune away, granting it to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and four family charities. Bill Gates serves on the board of Berkshire Hathaway and is a longtime bridge player with Buffett. Gates, the chairman of Microsoft, has also given a substantial amount of his fortune to the foundation.

Buffett, known as the Sage of Omaha, has been praised for his preference for investing in larger companies with easy-to-understand businesses, large or dominant market shares, consistent earnings and strong management.
Buffett started to invest in Berkshire in the early 1960s, when it was a struggling textile maker and took it over in 1965. Since then, he has transformed it into a holding company for more than 50 companies, ranging from Benjamin Moore (paint) and Dairy Queen (ice cream) to Fruit of the Loom (underwear) and Ginsu (knives).

Gates had held the No. 1 spot since 1995, when he unseated Yoshiaki Tsutsumi, a Japanese real estate magnate. Tsutsumi fell off the billionaire's list last year after receiving a suspended prison sentence for falsifying financial statements and insider trading in 2005.

Slim, a former stock market trader, is known for buying struggling companies at low prices and turning them into profit makers.
He built his fortune by privatizing Telmex, the former Mexican state telephone monopoly. América Móvil, a Telmex spin-off, is now Slim's flagship business and the biggest mobile phone company in Latin America.
The collective net worth of the world's 1,125 billionaires rose to $4.4 trillion, the magazine said.

The list of billionaires has almost doubled in the past four years, Forbes said.
In the United States, there were 469 billionaires, worth a combined $1.6 trillion, while the 656 billionaires who live outside of the United States were worth $2.8 trillion.

Russia came in second with 87 billionaires, but Moscow now has the world's largest number of billionaires, the magazine said.
There was also a large increase in India, China and Turkey.
The world's youngest billionaire is Mark Zuckerberg, 23, the founder of Facebook, the social-networking Web site. The magazine estimated his worth at $1.5 billion and said he was the youngest self-made billionaire ever to appear in the Forbes billionaire rankings.

Recent turmoil in the financial markets has taken its toll on the list.
James Cayne, chairman of Bear Stearns; William Pulte, who founded a U.S. home builder, Pulte Homes; and Howard Schultz, founder of Starbucks, all fell off the billionaire's list as their companies' stock prices declined.
The decline in the dollar, a trend that Buffett himself has been betting on since 2002, provided a lift to billionaires outside of the United States, particularly because the Forbes list is tabulated in U.S. dollars.

islandgyal
03-08-08, - 01:52 PM
who's the richest bahamian in the world?

Sunnyjohn
03-08-08, - 01:56 PM
who's the richest bahamian in the world?


The one wit his/her hands in da BEC/BATELCO/BAHAMASAIR till....

:p

Alien
03-08-08, - 01:57 PM
If they would stop fining Gates and taking his money from him, Buffet would be no where near Gates.

I mean, they are taxing Gates because he is "too smart":....good God. These people don't have no shame!

Alien
03-08-08, - 01:58 PM
The one wit his/her hands in da BEC/BATELCO/BAHAMASAIR till....
:p
Also with shares in Cable Bahamas, Atlantis and the GB Port Authority!
:)

androsann
03-08-08, - 01:59 PM
who's the richest bahamian in the world?
Well it sure aint me :D

Tafadhali
03-09-08, - 08:48 AM
If they would stop fining Gates and taking his money from him, Buffet would be no where near Gates.
I mean, they are taxing Gates because he is "too smart":....good God. These people don't have no shame!
w/ all the good work bill and melinda do hrough the millenium fund and alleviating global health disparities he pays less taxes (percentage wise) than a math professor pulling mid 70's per annum...it was the unsolicited yahoo bid that knocked him out the #1 spot this year.

an African (Nigerian) made the list (commodities, manuafacturing) as well!

Great Demos
03-09-08, - 11:12 AM
If they would stop fining Gates and taking his money from him, Buffet would be no where near Gates.
I mean, they are taxing Gates because he is "too smart":....good God. These people don't have no shame!
Well if he were that smart don't you think he'd hire some good lawyers to protect him and sue those gangsters...

If what I heard/read is true, seems that his empire might be gradually crumbling, 'cause his business is using too much planned obsolescence to gain profit..

Alien
03-09-08, - 01:11 PM
Well if he were that smart don't you think he'd hire some good lawyers to protect him and sue those gangsters...
If what I heard/read is true, seems that his empire might be gradually crumbling, 'cause his business is using too much planned obsolescence to gain profit..

You mean protect him from the government? The government is supposed to protect us from hudlums- not be hudlums!
:taped2:

The more they tax and fine him, the more he loses his incentives to produce.

w/ all the good work bill and melinda do hrough the millenium fund and alleviating global health disparities he pays less taxes (percentage wise) than a math professor pulling mid 70's per annum...it was the unsolicited yahoo bid that knocked him out the #1 spot this year.

an African (Nigerian) made the list (commodities, manuafacturing) as well!
So would like for them to tax him out of existence? This is what they are trying to do. I think he should pay more but, they should not start a precedent where they fine him "after an act" in which they make up the charges as they go along.

That's an illegal witch hunt.
:hammer:

Ting-um
03-09-08, - 02:31 PM
There is nothing illegal about suing microsoft after the fact. It doesn't make sense to sue before the fact - I mean this isn't a movie starring Tom Cruise called "Minority Report" where you punish people before they act.

Additionally, Buffett holds a significant portion of Microsoft stock and Gates is as diversified as Buffett is. So, the level of exposure between the two is somewhat comparable.

Alien
03-09-08, - 04:12 PM
There is nothing illegal about suing microsoft after the fact. It doesn't make sense to sue before the fact - I mean this isn't a movie starring Tom Cruise called "Minority Report" where you punish people before they act.
Additionally, Buffett holds a significant portion of Microsoft stock and Gates is as diversified as Buffett is. So, the level of exposure between the two is somewhat comparable.

No. They make up as they do along the dynamics of the suits they put forward, after they put to court calls for "competition" and "fair trade"...the laws in these two area's are vague. They have no set guidelines or procedure that speaks for equity for everyone.

Simply put- Microsoft makes too much money and their competitors can't keep up. Or, they don't have the intelectual capacity to unseat Gates, so their governments on their behalf puts forwards suits to punish creativity.

Have you read the claims and the winning suits brought against Gates in the last three years?

Absolutely ridiculous- more ridiculous is the latest $400 million + suit the EU won.

Great Demos
03-09-08, - 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Demos :what:
w/ all the good work bill and melinda do hrough the millenium fund and alleviating global health disparities he pays less taxes (percentage wise) than a math professor pulling mid 70's per annum...it was the unsolicited yahoo bid that knocked him out the #1 spot this year.

an African (Nigerian) made the list (commodities, manuafacturing) as well!

Alien, whats smatter -- you attribute the above quote to me, whereas it was posted by Taff NOT me..

Another thing, if Microsoft is being sued by the US govt for breaking the US govt antitrust laws, well that's another story -- they may be guilty. In any case they still should have good lawyers.. some of those antitrust laws don't seem too fair at all and govts could be a mess and make mistakes as well.

Alien
03-09-08, - 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Demos :what:
w/ all the good work bill and melinda do hrough the millenium fund and alleviating global health disparities he pays less taxes (percentage wise) than a math professor pulling mid 70's per annum...it was the unsolicited yahoo bid that knocked him out the #1 spot this year.
an African (Nigerian) made the list (commodities, manuafacturing) as well!
Alien, whats smatter -- you attribute the above quote to me, whereas it was posted by Taff NOT me..
Another thing, if Microsoft is being sued by the US govt for breaking the US govt antitrust laws, well that's another story -- they may be guilty. In any case they still should have good lawyers.. some of those antitrust laws don't seem too fair at all and govts could be a mess and make mistakes as well.


I changed it...

Here is the latest....$1.356 billion is simply outrageous!
http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2008/02/27/eu_fines_microsoft_record_135_billion/

Al because microsoft did not share it's information soon enough with it's competition. Anti-trust and competition policy....what a gas!!

:realmad:

Ting-um
03-09-08, - 05:26 PM
Yes, I have read the particulars of the Microsoft lawsuits. Competition over creativity. That's it. Microsoft either accepts it or gets out of the game. DO you hear them complaining?? Do you see them leaving the game?? There was a point when Microsoft was not a giant and thankfully for lawsuits that helped them in the past, they became the giants they are today.

Get over it. Every dog has its day. And if not for those lawsuits, you wouldn't be able to afford being so generous with your opinions online.

Alien
03-09-08, - 05:54 PM
Yes, I have read the particulars of the Microsoft lawsuits. Competition over creativity. That's it. Microsoft either accepts it or gets out of the game. DO you hear them complaining?? Do you see them leaving the game?? There was a point when Microsoft was not a giant and thankfully for lawsuits that helped them in the past, they became the giants they are today.
Get over it. Every dog has its day. And if not for those lawsuits, you wouldn't be able to afford being so generous with your opinions online.

Why would they leave the game? In fact, they probably can't leave the game- the world powers would not allow them.

Gates can't get out. He can't pack up his bags. If he did, it is obvious now that the world powers would simply sue him, sieze his assets and or TRY to make him create more.

The ruling sucked dog ballz and it stymies creativity in my opinion In fact, it was only a fine to generate some socialist agenda money inthe EU. There is no way you can guage if whether or not a man is "being creative enough"...it makes no sense.