http://www.4verichip.com/ Do U Tink This Is The Begining Of The Mark Of The Beast

I posted a link talking about that company in another thread, they are already producing them from what I read, and don't need any approval from the government.

Also I read of somewhere in iraq i think that already is operating with some sort of mark that prohibits shopping and with severe penalties if you are found without a 'mark', even death. Gotta find the link.

And there seems to be a lot of evidence mounting against Bush, they all seem to be pointing to him as the antichrist.

I read that some big database will hold details about everyone - health, financial, etc - and will be accesible by many organizations such as CIA, FBI, EPA, and more.

If they know everything about you, I think it is pretty easy to erase you or at least prevent you from being in their system if you get out of line thereby making it impossible for you to live a normal life.

I posted a link talking about that company in another thread, they are already producing them from what I read, and don't need any approval from the government.

Also I read of somewhere in iraq i think that already is operating with some sort of mark that prohibits shopping and with severe penalties if you are found without a 'mark', even death. Gotta find the link.

And there seems to be a lot of evidence mounting against Bush, they all seem to be pointing to him as the antichrist.

I read that some big database will hold details about everyone - health, financial, etc - and will be accesible by many organizations such as CIA, FBI, EPA, and more.

If they know everything about you, I think it is pretty easy to erase you or at least prevent you from being in their system if you get out of line thereby making it impossible for you to live a normal life.


Um uuuuhhh and if that life under the antichrist is so called normal why would you want to live normal anyway. Why are you so worried about it?? Can you stop it?? After all it states that it is coming in the Bible right??? So is there anything you can do about it at all?

NO

So live your life love the Creator and love thy neighbor and know things will be just fine. No matter how bad or good it gets there is only 1 guarantee in this life and that is we are all going to die. It is happening before my eyes everyday I watch my Dad get weaker and weaker. It looks like he will make this Christmas but I don't think he will see the next. I am glad each day we can get up and have a cup of coffee together.

Um uuuuhhh and if that life under the antichrist is so called normal why would you want to live normal anyway. Why are you so worried about it?? Can you stop it?? After all it states that it is coming in the Bible right??? So is there anything you can do about it at all?

NO

So live your life love the Creator and love thy neighbor and know things will be just fine. No matter how bad or good it gets there is only 1 guarantee in this life and that is we are all going to die. It is happening before my eyes everyday I watch my Dad get weaker and weaker. It looks like he will make this Christmas but I don't think he will see the next. I am glad each day we can get up and have a cup of coffee together.


What makes you think I am trying to stop the inevitable?

I am not trying to stop it - I am pointing out the signs for the unbeleivers who seek after signs - and when they see the signs they say it not enough.

They killed christ, because they did not believe that he was who he said he was even though he fulfilled more than 100 messiniac prophecies.

but, Christ said it best ...

John 3:14-21
11Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

I am safe Vicky, I beleive in the only begotten Son of God and what he came and accomplished.

I am only pointing out signs for the unbelievers. Prophecies are being fulfilled all around you. But you do not beleive in earthly things so it is hard for you to believe in heavenly things.

I am in the business of leading persons to the Lord so their souls may be saved. I am not trying to change the world, that must happen, and you seem to believe it will happen as well. But you can't obtain salvation if you do not believe in Christ. Believing there is a God is not enough, Christ is the only way to God.

This message is a reply to you but it is not meant for you alone. The signs are all there. Open your eyes and see them. Then open your heart and believe. Faith is the only way.

You want equality for all - you are trying to change the world, not me.

I am after souls not the world.

Mark 8:36-38
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

While you are nitpiking about the christians and the bible, time is passing and you are looking for signs but seem to still be lost. Salvation is not based on works - it is based on belief followed by works. If you are a christian and are sinning you are still saved, that is what forgiveness is for. You will never find a perfect christian that does not sin. God is more concerned about your faith than your sins. If you live a perfect life and never sin, you still won't be saved because salvation is a gift. It is not dependant upon works.

Ephesians 2:8-10
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

They killed christ, because they did not believe that he was who he said he was even though he fulfilled more than 100 messiniac prophecies.

Well, there is a little more to it than that. First of all if he fulfilled 100 prophecies then either the people did not know the prophecies, or he did not fulfill them, at least in their eyes.

Jesus' death had a lot to do with politics. The Romans did not want an uprising in the occupied lands and the Jewish Holy men at the time served at the pleasure of the Roman authorities. If Jesus had cause any trouble during the Passover, which others before him had done, both the Roman leaders and the Jewish ones might have found themselves out of a job, or worse!

If there is a moral to the story then it is this. When we allow our earthly concerns to over-shadow the spiritual ones, we run the risk of killing the spiritual. But the spiritual will not stay dead for long. It will rise up only to be confronted again and again.

As for the rest of your post? That is a matter of belief.

As for the rest of your post? That is a matter of belief.


yes pretty much.

What makes you think I am trying to stop the inevitable?

I am not trying to stop it - I am pointing out the signs for the unbeleivers who seek after signs - and when they see the signs they say it not enough.

They killed christ, because they did not believe that he was who he said he was even though he fulfilled more than 100 messiniac prophecies.

but, Christ said it best ...

John 3:14-21
11Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15That whosoever believeth in him [QUOTE=bsmbahamas] Since when did Christ refer to himself as "Him" [QUOTE=bsmbahamas]should not perish, but have eternal life.
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

I am safe Vicky, I beleive in the only begotten Son of God and what he came and accomplished. Practice dose not make you perfect it only makes you good at what you practice no matter how wrong or right it is.

I am only pointing out signs for the unbelievers. Prophecies are being fulfilled all around you. But you do not beleive in earthly things so it is hard for you to believe in heavenly things.

I am in the business of leading persons to the Lord so their souls may be saved. I am not trying to change the world, that must happen, and you seem to believe it will happen as well. But you can't obtain salvation if you do not believe in Christ. Believing there is a God is not enough, Christ is the only way to God.

This message is a reply to you but it is not meant for you alone. The signs are all there. Open your eyes and see them. Then open your heart and believe. Faith is the only way.

You want equality for all - you are trying to change the world, not me.

I am after souls not the world.. Sounds like the evil one to me

Mark 8:36-38
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

While you are nitpiking about the christians and the bible, time is passing and you are looking for signs but seem to still be lost. Salvation is not based on works - it is based on belief followed by works. If you are a christian and are sinning you are still saved, that is what forgiveness is for. You will never find a perfect christian that does not sin. God is more concerned about your faith than your sins. If you live a perfect life and never sin, you still won't be saved because salvation is a gift. It is not dependant upon works.

Ephesians 2:8-10
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Here are some links I found related to the Mark of The Beast.
Please read and post responses as well as any other links related
to this topic.

http://www.allaboutpopularissues.org/mark-of-the-beast.htm
http://www.allaboutpopularissues.org/number-of-the-beast-or-666-faq.htm
http://www.allaboutpopularissues.org/the-mark-faq.htm