Diversify their aid package?

Try to seek ways in which they give more, in better more concerted fashions?

I think the days are gone, where churches hand out canned goods, and/or raise money for soup kitchens. Giving and philanthropy, can work in a more sophisticated and concentrated manner.

Do you think that the church should do a little more and seek to do more the right way?

I know a guy, who does this type of work and is an excellent consultant to work with, in regards to charity and philanthropy...

In any event, what do you think and where should they "help"??
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Diversify their aid package?
Try to seek ways in which they give more, in better more concerted fashions?
I think the days are gone, where churches hand out canned goods, and/or raise money for soup kitchens. Giving and philanthropy, can work in a more sophisticated and concentrated manner.
Do you think that the church should do a little more and seek to do more the right way?
I know a guy, who does this type of work and is an excellent consultant to work with, in regards to charity and philanthropy...
In any event, what do you think and where should they "help"??
:)
I think churches still hand out goods, if only at certain times. BFM has a Store House Ministry. Actually, on Sunday Dr. Munroe suggested that each member bring in one canned good every Sunday for the next 4 months to add to the "store house" to be given to those who are in need.

I remember taking bags of non-perishable items to Anglican churches at "harvest time", and seeing things on the altars.

They also go into the hopsitals to minister to people, and visit the sick and needy of their parishes and communities.

What else should the churches do? They can partner with other organizations and the government to run after-school programs. Nothing else really comes to mind that would be readily accepted and is needed by the country. Scholarships? (I know that the Anglican Diocese does this already - at least for elementary and high school.) Many people are starting to think that the church is given too much power and is too involved, so who knows...

Did you have anything in mind, Alien?

Just asking out loud, lovely......I know of a few people, who do this "organizing" for a living. The deeds are philanthropic, but, they do get paid for their work- one way or another.

I think any organization, in fact, every organization, if they want to help the community and/or group organization do things right, they have to seek help in how to help the right way- so that it does not affect other organizations, and/or disrupt already established services.

Lyford Cay gives, the Churches give, organizations like Toastmasters and such, "do things" and they give as well- but, is that giving done right? Does it matter? Are they wasting their money, on efforts, that are outdated and don't affect the persons who they want to affect?

That's the thing. Its not giving, but, giving the right way and tracking that giving, to see if what you wanted to acheive, is acheived!

That's why, no matter how much governments, civil society, private companies and any single philanthropists "give", the cry is always "where is it"...."what was done"..."we don't see it"..."that een reach me"..."I don't get it"..."that is NOT what we wanted at all"..."you don't understand".....and, on another end, governments complain that what they try to do, is not met by even their own standards. So too with high end investors, who may be bright men and women, or, succesful, but, you ask them if they know what they actually had done or what that money, they donated to a group, actually went for and what it accomplished, they simply cannot tell you- not that they gave or went about doing so, in a proper manner. But, they simply don't have that type of competency.

Not knocking anyone like Kiwanis, Lyford Cay Foundation and/or government. But, you have to know what it is you are doing- if you don't, you would probably waste money. Disrupt other initiatives. Impact initiatives in the wrong way. Or, don't hit a dang thing, other than the newspapers for some random donation and or campaign!

People will begin to see your efforts as vain, empty and not worth the time.

Anyone can raise money. But, can they do what is neccesary, with the money, so it actually "does good" intentionally, is another story all together!

Anyone can raise money. But, can they do what is neccesary, with the money, so it actually "does good" intentionally, is another story all together!
Good point! I think that the people and organizations who are so desperate to GIVE should work in the opposite direction than they seem to be at present. Right now, it seems that they dream up ideas... They decide what they want to do, then look for people to do it for or a place to do it in... AFTER it is done, they try to figure out who it helped and how. It needs to start with a goal. What are you trying to affect? How will it best be affected?

NOT >>> Let's collect a bunch of money, and give it to XYZ people/organization. Then wait a few weeks... Then find out that they bought books.

BUT>>> XYZ people/organization could use some help. Let's see what they need. Find out that they need more books. Collect a bunch of money, and use it along with influence (position in the corporate world, relationships, etc.) to buy 3x as many books as XYZ could have bought, simply because as a major organization/company/church/government, we are able to get support of other organizations/companies/churches/governments who can match our book purchases 1-for-1 - Something that XYZ does not have the ability to do on its own.

The method needs to change. People/Organizations need to stop giving for the sake of giving, or to meet quotas, or get media coverage. If you're going to give, you may as well give something that is worth receiving by the recipient!

Good point! I think that the people and organizations who are so desperate to GIVE should work in the opposite direction than they seem to be at present. Right now, it seems that they dream up ideas... They decide what they want to do, then look for people to do it for or a place to do it in... AFTER it is done, they try to figure out who it helped and how. It needs to start with a goal. What are you trying to affect? How will it best be affected?
NOT >>> Let's collect a bunch of money, and give it to XYZ people/organization. Then wait a few weeks... Then find out that they bought books.
BUT>>> XYZ people/organization could use some help. Let's see what they need. Find out that they need more books. Collect a bunch of money, and use it along with influence (position in the corporate world, relationships, etc.) to buy 3x as many books as XYZ could have bought, simply because as a major organization/company/church/government, we are able to get support of other organizations/companies/churches/governments who can match our book purchases 1-for-1 - Something that XYZ does not have the ability to do on its own.
The method needs to change. People/Organizations need to stop giving for the sake of giving, or to meet quotas, or get media coverage. If you're going to give, you may as well give something that is worth receiving by the recipient!

Exactly. I know a fellah who coordinates this type of effort.

Exactly. I know a fellah who coordinates this type of effort.Hmmmm!

Hmmmm!
Where did you spring from all of a sudden this Sunday? You have been queit for a good part of the month.
LOL......

Where did you spring from all of a sudden this Sunday? You have been queit for a good part of the month.
LOL......Took the day off to watch the draft.

Took the day off to watch the draft.

True.