So what makes you think that the figures aren't being fixed now????

I don't remember seeing much tourists in this first quarter so all of them probably were in Atlantis Sandals, Breezer's etc!!! All inclusive!!

You lie .. you make things up, and then you believe your own lies.
You are like a potcake on a sun bleached bone -- the meat is gone and you won't give it up.
You latch onto a name, like Vincent Vanderpool Wallace, or Rick Lowe or whoever -- people who you have never met or don't know, or even exchanged a single hi to -- and you pretend to know their motives and their thoughts.
Now I will tell you exactly how the discrepancy came about. When a tourist enters the Bahamas, they require a visitor card. They must surrender the visitor card when leaving. If a ship stops at let's say Port Lucaya, the visitors fill out a card when they come ashore. As they re-embark, they surrender the card.
Now if the ship goes on to Nassau, immigration requests that they fill in another visitor card. This technically creates two cards. However there are procedures in place to vet them. For example the visitor cards have the ship name, the cruise line, the date, and they cross reference it with the ship's itinerary -- which is known and published beforehand to give the shops on Bay Street to capture that business. At one time, Bay Street businesses had the only exemption to cirumvent the Sabbath closure laws.
So the MOT forwards the figures to the politicos. The figures do have the breakdown on the re-entrants in the reports to the Ministry and the politicos. However the figures are falling below the magic 5 million mark. However a simple additions of the re-entrants makes it go over 5 million, so the lying bastid PLPs like Obie and Perry promulgate the lie to cover the fact that their economic stimulus and mythical projects are not working.
Can't you get it through your thick skull, that lies were told, and Vincent Vanderpool Wallace himself saw the figures the same as Crisco Butt and Obie the jailbird thief. Do you not know that VVW is a Harvard grad, and he knew that the politicos were lying, but didn't want to contradict them.
If you can afford it, go to Cafe Matisse. You will see Vincent there when he is not in Barbados, or Tand C. Ask him for yourself. He will look at you as if you are a retard. Counting visitor cards is not magic. However it might be to you if you cannot put two and two together.
It's amazing how you manufacture the truth, stick to it even when it is proven false, and then refuse to budge. But I guess that is how PLPs operate. Don't believe what your own eyes tell you -- drink the Purple KoolAid -- and you have my friend.

1. Because I said that I don't lie, you go out to say that I do lie....totally tasteless.

2. The numbers have been something of controversy. So, to say anyone contrived any numbers, is totally ridiculous- considering how many people, are involved in this process.

I don't have to lie, or, tell the truth to you if I don't want to, Lurker.

So what makes you think that the figures aren't being fixed now????
I don't remember seeing much tourists in this first quarter so all of them probably were in Atlantis Sandals, Breezer's etc!!! All inclusive!!

I don't know why anyone is calling them fixed!?!?! We are talking about Bahamiam workers and civil service workers, at that.

But, to say that no one, is NOT using the same stats they used to calculate the mis-information that the PLP had prior to 2007, is something that would raise questions. But, only Lurker cares to tell the spin on that of the PLP....as said, he leaves snipits to the story, that hurts his people.

Just tell the truth, I reckon!
:)

Now I will tell you exactly how the discrepancy came about. When a tourist enters the Bahamas, they require a visitor card. They must surrender the visitor card when leaving. If a ship stops at let's say Port Lucaya, the visitors fill out a card when they come ashore. As they re-embark, they surrender the card.

and don't forget the disconnect that seems to happen when people arrive in their own planes and boats throughout the country ... not every port of entry or commercial marina, much less a private dock, has the most sophisticated setup in place, so many of those arrival numbers are merely extrapolated from year to year.

Well folks, anyone who knows me, knows that I think that we are in a clear and present danger having tourism form 75% of economic activity and offset. I have long campaigned for diversification of the economy.
However, that being said, tourism is all we have. So we must work with what we have until we can make something better.
And there is a glimmer of hope. Tourism rose 3.8% in the last quarter. This is the first uptick in 9 consecutive quarters. Tourism has been falling since we got five million arrivals, and Crisco Butt lied about the decline for two and half years.
Sea arrivals are up by 6.7% and air arrivals are up by 2.9% !!!
There is great economic news as a result of this. In addition, liquid excess reserves rose to over $118 million US Dollars. During the last December of Crisco Butt's reign of terrible, the liquid excess reserves fell to a mere $9 million dollars. The liquid reserves are largely tied to US dollar inflows from tourism.
I am a firm believer that once everyone acknowledges how bad the economy is, it has already turned the corner. I sincerely hope this is so, for the sake of the Bahamas.


I don`t care about numbers all I care about is $ and I know that money is not flowing like before!!

I don`t care about numbers all I care about is $ and I know that money is not flowing like before!!Flowing like when.. YOU see that is the problem with you PLPs.. you have brought the bs that things were good between 2002 to 2007.. when in fact all what was happening was that PLPs were ripping off the treasury....some of tose crooks should be in jail... I mean bloody jail...

I don`t care about numbers all I care about is $ and I know that money is not flowing like before!!

You are right. You are absolutely right. 3.8% doesn't pay for the rise in food prices or the rise in gasoline. It is $3.80 for every $100. A mere piffle.

But tourism should be going down. And it isn't. That is a minor miracle and a cause for cautious optimism. We een gern crash and burn this quarter. We should be doing something more constructive. Are we? Nope. We have a lil breathing room, but Hubigetty een doing anything about it. What happened to all of his plans from 2002 to diversify the economy? Gone !!

And oh yeah -- Hubigetty -- close the web shops.

But tourism should be going down. And it isn't. That is a minor miracle and a cause for cautious optimism. We een gern crash and burn this quarter.

YAY! :bouncy: Hopefully, this trend will continue throughout the summer.

And oh yeah -- Hubigetty -- close the web shops.

Why? Again, what impact is that having on tourism? (Or is it simply because the money indirectly goes from the poor into the webshop keeper's pockets.) And one more thing, what's a smart house?

Flowing like when.. YOU see that is the problem with you PLPs.. you have brought the bs that things were good between 2002 to 2007.. when in fact all what was happening was that PLPs were ripping off the treasury....some of tose crooks should be in jail... I mean bloody jail...
So why isn'tyour LOUSY FNMs putting those persons in jail.......just maybe they are crooked themselves!!!

You are right. You are absolutely right. 3.8% doesn't pay for the rise in food prices or the rise in gasoline. It is $3.80 for every $100. A mere piffle.
But tourism should be going down. And it isn't. That is a minor miracle and a cause for cautious optimism. We een gern crash and burn this quarter. We should be doing something more constructive. Are we? Nope. We have a lil breathing room, but Hubigetty een doing anything about it. What happened to all of his plans from 2002 to diversify the economy? Gone !!
And oh yeah -- Hubigetty -- close the web shops.Not on your life!!!

And oh yeah -- Hubigetty -- close the web shops.[/QUOTE]


One time the web shop owners had to clean their money, those days are gone, now I think they`re just banking it, I sure don`t see them buying nothing now. (watsayu don`t get your draws in a bunch I mean 8-10 years ago no political attack on one party)

And oh yeah -- Hubigetty -- close the web shops.
One time the web shop owners had to clean their money, those days are gone, now I think they`re just banking it, I sure don`t see them buying nothing now. (watsayu don`t get your draws in a bunch I mean 8-10 years ago no political attack on one party)[/QUOTE]

Go to the Ocean Club and check out that certain mansion built on the end of hole #6 if you want to see what they are buying.

I don't care for what urky say at all.


I must say WHOEVER say the tourist arrival is up or anything with tourist coming here that we had a rise in arrival is a BORN LIAR!!!!!Pleezzzze tell dem PROUDPLP says so....:hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer:

I don't care for what urky say at all.
I must say WHOEVER say the tourist arrival is up or anything with tourist coming here that we had a rise in arrival is a BORN LIAR!!!!!Pleezzzze tell dem PROUDPLP says so....


Get out another pin, and push it through the head. Sigh ....

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/BahamasEng/blog/proudplp.jpg

How are you feeling now?