Job growth is easy. We all know what it takes. Nobody wants to do it. We talk about it all the time and waste time arguing about it. You can't have immediate growth and sustained growth at the same time. You either have to have immediate growth followed immediately by immediate decline or you can have slowed, but sustained growth over a longer period of time.
Too much people on Nassau. Get rid of them and problem solved. Now, you can argue about how it makes no sense to do so at this time all you want. But, in 6 months you'll be making another post about the same thing. Then 12 months from now, you'll do it again. And so on, after 5 years of complaining about the same thing...some of us get tired.

I have worked in Exuma before. The issue is with the islands, is that there is no support from the services. That takes a government action. You can't just up and move like that- been telling you this. Government, needs to make the place, attractive....or assist with making it attractive. I would move back today if I can find these things...

1. Accomodations need to be affordable

2. Jobs need to pay to meet the cost

3. Ammenities like internet and telephones, need to be easily accessible as well as banks and payment of your nessecities.

4. You need access to things like a) good produce and b) information tech and regular tech- a decent library, for a fellah who like to read like me.

5. Incentives for people who want to create that type of support, needs to be encouraged and drilled. For example, people used to wait on the plane, to get Kentucky in Exuma...HAHAHAHAHHAHA....Jokes! I like Kentucky chicken too....

So, while I would move to an outisland today...these things need to be in place! The outisland, is no place for anyone to be, if they are trying to make a comfortable living, without it being tied to tourism- your own bed and bed, or, working for one. That and working for the government- even that can kill you, because, the opportunities and the option to change directions, are in the city. This is why people move from the rural areas, to the city....

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I have worked in Exuma before. The issue is with the islands, is that there is no support from the services. That takes a government action. You can't just up and move like that- been telling you this. Government, needs to make the place, attractive....or assist with making it attractive. I would move back today if I can find these things...


...my contention has and will always be - move the government agencies to the out islands first. In order for the agencies to function adequately, infrastructure has to and will be there. The problem is - if you built a road in Exuma, people in Yellow Elder will gripe about a road that hasn't been fixed since 1995.

...my contention has and will always be - move the government agencies to the out islands first. In order for the agencies to function adequately, infrastructure has to and will be there. The problem is - if you built a road in Exuma, people in Yellow Elder will gripe about a road that hasn't been fixed since 1995.

But we have government outposts. That's the thing. As for a government ministry, I don't think it would be cost effective, where most of the other infastructure and decision making, happens in Nassau.

We need to have a good tech infastructure and a good dock and airline transport services on the outislands- that and decent and accesible banks! The docks can barely fit a Boston Whaler on many islands. Air travel is ok, but, the airports are never ran properly. Also, tech is a major issue......easy and accesible tech and information services. Lastly, with the banks, before the Scotia Bank came up to Emerald Bay, we all had to take an hours drive to George Town, to cash a cheque......damn! Some people in governemnt schools in the outislands, have to come to Nassau to cash their cheques. True!

But, a government ministry, won't solve the issues with comfort living in the outislands. In fact, it would be a huge waste.......its like building a house. You can't build it, without as firm foundation.

No, it won't be beneficial to anyone in power to annoy the majority of people. And since the majority of people live in Nassau, you have to do what Nassauvians say - that's why I don't care. Its like a fat person complaining about being fat but they don't want to exercise or cut back on eating. So you should just let them eat themselves to death.

I disagree - we don't need all of those things. The idea is not to make the out islands and Nassau similar. Its to make the out islands more suitable for whatever they're specialized for. For example, if Bimini is more suitable than Nassau for fishing - then why is the ministry of fisheries in Nassau?? Most of the fishing doesn't occur in or around Nassau - but a lot of fishermen live there mainly because that is where the ministry is. If most of the agriculture in the Bahamas occurs on Andros, then why would the ministry of agriculture be in Nassau - again, it makes no sense. You don't need any fancy anything to move those ministries.

Even still...its a small sacrifice to make for the future. I really don't care anymore of how its done, what is put in place first or whom - I just know it needs to be done. It doesn't sound like you're really fed up with the lack of jobs or growth. Why nitpick about it. I just want to see them do something, *NOW*.

No, it won't be beneficial to anyone in power to annoy the majority of people. And since the majority of people live in Nassau, you have to do what Nassauvians say - that's why I don't care. Its like a fat person complaining about being fat but they don't want to exercise or cut back on eating. So you should just let them eat themselves to death.
I disagree - we don't need all of those things. The idea is not to make the out islands and Nassau similar. Its to make the out islands more suitable for whatever they're specialized for. For example, if Bimini is more suitable than Nassau for fishing - then why is the ministry of fisheries in Nassau?? Most of the fishing doesn't occur in or around Nassau - but a lot of fishermen live there mainly because that is where the ministry is. If most of the agriculture in the Bahamas occurs on Andros, then why would the ministry of agriculture be in Nassau - again, it makes no sense. You don't need any fancy anything to move those ministries.
Even still...its a small sacrifice to make for the future. I really don't care anymore of how its done, what is put in place first or whom - I just know it needs to be done. It doesn't sound like you're really fed up with the lack of jobs or growth. Why nitpick about it. I just want to see them do something, *NOW*.
Thats just common sense to place them ministries on the islands where they take place, but then common sense ain common dese days so.....
Those in power should make decisions dat r best 4 der bahamas and not whats best for one set of people/islands/area

This is one of the few times I agree with you, Watsayu, as a former banker with a couple decades of experience, The expats come here and know nothing, what a shame. The expats support HI because they know they will get their work permits with no questions asked.
And peep dis! There een no or little un-employment amoung we illigal population round here!!!:jawdroop:

No, it won't be beneficial to anyone in power to annoy the majority of people. And since the majority of people live in Nassau, you have to do what Nassauvians say - that's why I don't care. Its like a fat person complaining about being fat but they don't want to exercise or cut back on eating. So you should just let them eat themselves to death.
I disagree - we don't need all of those things. The idea is not to make the out islands and Nassau similar. Its to make the out islands more suitable for whatever they're specialized for. For example, if Bimini is more suitable than Nassau for fishing - then why is the ministry of fisheries in Nassau?? Most of the fishing doesn't occur in or around Nassau - but a lot of fishermen live there mainly because that is where the ministry is. If most of the agriculture in the Bahamas occurs on Andros, then why would the ministry of agriculture be in Nassau - again, it makes no sense. You don't need any fancy anything to move those ministries.
Even still...its a small sacrifice to make for the future. I really don't care anymore of how its done, what is put in place first or whom - I just know it needs to be done. It doesn't sound like you're really fed up with the lack of jobs or growth. Why nitpick about it. I just want to see them do something, *NOW*.

I just don't see where your idea adds up, to the support that is needed and that being effective!

Stalin saved the Soviet Union as well with his rellocation policies...this is what historians write about him. Even though the gulags, caused millions of lives!

I think we are in an age, where we should not have to sacrifice human aspirtations, for the sake of a national image.....because, if we kill that uneccesarily, there will be nothing we will be preserving....stopping people's futures, does not save their future!

As for the outislands, build it and they will come. Private entities, need support. Government will only waste out money going out there- with nothing to support it.

The market, can agitate for what's needed to survive, better than that of the government, wasting money and manpower, trying to relocate their operartions, in a repatriation policy initiative...but, that's me!

...so basically if the government doesn't move nothing will be done and private corporations can do it but won't do it if the government doesn't do it.

You're saying that *THIS* adds up?? This only adds to the frustration. Again, I say - I don't care who does what, when, why or where - just do it. I don't care if you're right or I'm wrong. I'm sick of the status quo. I'll leave the bickering about who needs to do what, when, why and where up to you. It doesn't sound like you're in as dire a situation as many others.

...so basically if the government doesn't move nothing will be done and private corporations can do it but won't do it if the government doesn't do it.
You're saying that *THIS* adds up?? This only adds to the frustration. Again, I say - I don't care who does what, when, why or where - just do it. I don't care if you're right or I'm wrong. I'm sick of the status quo. I'll leave the bickering about who needs to do what, when, why and where up to you. It doesn't sound like you're in as dire a situation as many others.

So do I want someone to do it....but, we want it to last. Get some real support out in the out islands man.
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I would move today, if they can get me internet and affordable housing, with Kentucky when I want it!
:)

Oh, so you aren't interested in moving unless they can make you feel like you live in Nassau. You need your internet, housing and KFC.

I don't need all of that. If I have a job making close to what I make now, I will move now - I will do without the internet and KFC. I grew up with no running water and we had to go to the pump every day, using outside toilet and catching rain water to drink in the same tin tub we used to bath in - so as long as they pay me sufficiently I will move.

Because I know if nobody's there, then there will be no internet, no KFC, no jobs and no future. Now I remember where we disagreed. You want a supply with no demand and I want a demand without the supply.

Sorry to remind you, in a successful market, demand *ALWAYS* comes first. You can't force a horse to drink, but you can lead him to water. In other words, if the supply is there - that doesn't mean people will come. But if people are there they want the supply, in fact, they'll tell you exactly what to supply. Which supports what I said earlier. If people in Bimini are already fishing - then they are telling you what they want and need.

Oh, so you aren't interested in moving unless they can make you feel like you live in Nassau. You need your internet, housing and KFC.
I don't need all of that. If I have a job making close to what I make now, I will move now - I will do without the internet and KFC. I grew up with no running water and we had to go to the pump every day, using outside toilet and catching rain water to drink in the same tin tub we used to bath in - so as long as they pay me sufficiently I will move.
Because I know if nobody's there, then there will be no internet, no KFC, no jobs and no future. Now I remember where we disagreed. You want a supply with no demand and I want a demand without the demand.
Sorry to remind you, in a successful market, demand *ALWAYS* comes first. You can't force a horse to drink, but you can lead him to water. In other words, if the supply is there - that doesn't mean people will come. But if people are there they want the supply, in fact, they'll tell you exactly what to supply. Which supports what I said earlier. If people in Bimini are already fishing - then they are telling you what they want and need.

I'm a very easy to please man.......but, a job, or, work, goes without saying.

I.... The issue is with the islands, is that there is no support from the services. That takes a government action. You can't just up and move like that- been telling you this. Government, needs to make the place, attractive....or assist with making it attractive. I would move back today if I can find these things...
1. Accomodations need to be affordable
2. Jobs need to pay to meet the cost
3. Ammenities like internet and telephones, need to be easily accessible as well as banks and payment of your nessecities.
4. You need access to things like a) good produce and b) information tech and regular tech- a decent library, for a fellah who like to read like me.
5. Incentives for people who want to create that type of support, needs to be encouraged and drilled. For example, people used to wait on the plane, to get Kentucky in Exuma...HAHAHAHAHHAHA....Jokes! I like Kentucky chicken too....
So, while I would move to an outisland today...these things need to be in place! The outisland, is no place for anyone to be, if they are trying to make a comfortable living, without it being tied to tourism- your own bed and bed, or, working for one. That and working for the government- even that can kill you, because, the opportunities and the option to change directions, are in the city. This is why people move from the rural areas, to the city....
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Two words. GRAND BAHAMA!

Freeport has better sewage, garbage service, water, telephone, internet and Electricity and roads!

We actually have a TOWN PLAN, CITY SERVICES and REAL CITY ZONING!

You can still buy a large buildable lot (even double lots)in Freeport with light and phone already accesible for less than $50,000. Heck, if you branch out further you can snap up a nice parcel with "Elctricity pending" for $5K and hold them.


Freeport has fast food,cinemas and grocey stores. YOU can travel cheaply between Freeport and Ft Lauderdale in relative luxury on the Discovery Cruise Ship. On that same boat you can bring in goods for the price of a pallet.

When the Port dies in the next 18months it will be one again!

Stop packing yinna arses up in Nassau and branch out!

...my contention has and will always be - move the government agencies to the out islands first. In order for the agencies to function adequately, infrastructure has to and will be there. The problem is - if you built a road in Exuma, people in Yellow Elder will gripe about a road that hasn't been fixed since 1995.

Bingo. Well, I say this is the way to solve the overcrowding problem here in Nassau. I think we would do well to make another city first on one larger out island though.

You can grow more in the other out islands if you give local government some ability to set and collect and spend some tax on their own without central government interference. This could be a good training ground for national politics as well...

all the best,

drew

But we have government outposts. That's the thing. As for a government ministry, I don't think it would be cost effective, where most of the other infastructure and decision making, happens in Nassau.
We need to have a good tech infastructure and a good dock and airline transport services on the outislands- that and decent and accesible banks! The docks can barely fit a Boston Whaler on many islands. Air travel is ok, but, the airports are never ran properly. Also, tech is a major issue......easy and accesible tech and information services. Lastly, with the banks, before the Scotia Bank came up to Emerald Bay, we all had to take an hours drive to George Town, to cash a cheque......damn! Some people in governemnt schools in the outislands, have to come to Nassau to cash their cheques. True!
But, a government ministry, won't solve the issues with comfort living in the outislands. In fact, it would be a huge waste.......its like building a house. You can't build it, without as firm foundation.

What do you think of a Federation? Groups of islands under a regional adminstration providing the rudimentary infrastructure and support at least?

I beg to differ...

There are many jobs in this country... but folks are only thinking about the big three - Hotel, Banks or Government.

What about Bristol or Burns House...
In good or bad times, these businesses make lots of money....
The market is not only for tourists but locals as well..... We Bahamians love to drink..

In fact, no matter how "bad" the economy gets, these three businesses will still make a profit

1. Wines & Spirits ( Brisotl, Burns House)
2. The Numbers Business
3. The Church


just my three cents