Un-employment will most likely go up. But, that's not the crux of this today....there are no solid jobs in the papers in addition with that.

I mean, no middle entry, no senior management for the most part...the same positions, have been in the news papers, for the last three weeks. No good entry level ones, either in the private sector or public...

On top of that, there has been no hiring from anywhere- trust me, I know. Not only have there not been ample jobs, but the job vacancies are held up because people need the work, but, the most likely can't raise the capital or the where with all to put the money on the table to get the kind of help they need....on top of that, we have over qualified people, doing menial work and tasks. Folks working with experience and degree's as tellers and CSR Rep's.

Maybe its me....but, certainly, there has been a slowdown in jobs. Maybe we never reall had any real job movement to begin with...

Even working for yourself must be a drag- trust me, I know.

There are always lean times and times of fat. But, I gatta say, this is the time of lean and there is hardly no room....ANYWHERE!

How's everyone else faring or getting on with it?

Un-employment will most likely go up. But, that's not the crux of this today....there are no solid jobs in the papers in addition with that.AND that has been like that for a long while... not just recently.... go figure !!!!!

If I didnt have lil mama, I would right on it looking for a second job, even if its as simple as cashing at night!

AND that has been like that for a long while... not just recently.... go figure !!!!!

I said that at the end; "maybe its always been like this, and I have just noticed it".....especially the part where people, are doing menial work in jobs where they have no business being in. MBA's, doing CSR work and so forth.

Jobs in the town are way down...at least, comparing my time out of work after I finished my first degree, to now- this has been thee LONGEST stretch of time, Iv'e ever been out of meaningful work.

The longest for me has been for 3 months after I had finished my first degree, and between that, I had little security and odd jobs here and there- just to get by. But, not like this, where not even basic run of the mill jobs are not there...and I have been applying- every HR manager, should know my name by now. In fact, when I call, they say "I've heard that name before"...

Never would go back to doing security again, and, my business is moving slowly- as expected. But, even THAT's a job. Overall, there ain't none!

If I didnt have lil mama, I would right on it looking for a second job, even if its as simple as cashing at night!

Yea....that's where people are right now.

I said that at the end; "maybe its always been like this, and I have just noticed it".....especially the part where people, are doing menial work in jobs where they have no business being in MBA's, doing CSR work and so forth.
Jobs in the town are way down...at least, comparing my time out of work after I finished my first degree, to now- this has been thee LONGEST stretch of time, Iv'e ever been out of meaningful work.
The longest for me has been for 3 months after I had finished my first degree, and between that, I had little security and odd jobs here and there- just to get by. But, not like this, where not even basic run of the mill jobs are not there...and I have been applying- every HR manager, should know my name by now. In fact, when I call, they say "I've heard that name before"...
Never would go back to doing security again, and, my business is moving slowly- as expected. But, even THAT's a job. Overall, there ain't none!BUT here is where a good immigration policy comes in.. I recall returning from home.. and ran into a young man who went to school with me.. man I was so happy to see him but shocked at what he was doing... he was working with a big firm here in Nassau..

I asked him HOW DA HELL !!!...IF YOU know this guy.. no grades.. party animal.... drugs and you know it all... I do not even know if he graduated... but here he was in that Bahamas.. do a jobb that A BAHAMIAN could have done with ease.... and he was earning a big fact check.. plus a hose, car.. etc.. and living the life....

He explained that his father called a friend and the friend .. and he got the job.. the friend told his father that getting permission for him to work would not be a problem.... cause he will do an ad in the local papers and regardless of what he will have the right to hire who he pleased...

THIS COMPANY is now closed it was one of the off shore bank...

IMMIGRATION, should require more info as they allow foreigners to take a job that a Bahamian can do... that is the key.. there are JOBs in the country, but........

BUT here is where a good immigration policy comes in.. I recall returning from home.. and ran into a young man who went to school with me.. man I was so happy to see him but shocked at what he was doing... he was working with a big firm here in Nassau..
I asked him HOW DA HELL !!!...IF YOU know this guy.. no grades.. party animal.... drugs and you know it all... I do not even know if he graduated... but here he was in that Bahamas.. do a jobb that A BAHAMIAN could have done with ease.... and he was earning a big fact check.. plus a hose, car.. etc.. and living the life....
He explained that his father called a friend and the friend .. and he got the job.. the friend told his father that getting permission for him to work would not be a problem.... cause he will do an ad in the local papers and regardless of what he will have the right to hire who he pleased...
THIS COMPANY is now closed it was one of the off shore bank...
IMMIGRATION, should require more info as they allow foreigners to take a job that a Bahamian can do... that is the key.. there are JOBs in the country, but........

That's half of the story. We had no real job growth in the last 20 years. Our financial services industry, has not moved past administrative duties. Our tourism sector, has been under attack from foreigners in the top management and those tpyes of jobs, are for new graduates or settled men and women, who have made it to mid-life and are ready to retire.

I don't know what government's past or present, are doing about jobs in this country- but, they need to do something. Cuz...dayum!

Its always this "you have to know someone"..but, my thing is, how come when you call a friend, the job opens up- but- no one recruits because they need someone to fill a position!?!?
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When a friend calls a friend, does the job miraculously open up with money available to do the work!?!?
:confused:

Something ain't right about that....that sounds grossly perverse!
:tdown:

This is one of the few times I agree with you, Watsayu, as a former banker with a couple decades of experience, The expats come here and know nothing, what a shame. The expats support HI because they know they will get their work permits with no questions asked.

People are stupid.

I hate to say I told you so, but...I told you so. Our firm for example, was flushed with cash like many others in 2006 and 2007 - and just like everyone else, they made very poor and very bad decisions. Everyone saw the DJIA jump to 13,500 then to 14,000 and then to 14,500 - in those quarters growth was phenomenal. But none of it was sustainable as it was all based on debt. Then when the debt market collapsed, all of that cash disappeared and now everyone realizes its time to tighten their belts.

We have a hiring freeze, when in years prior we were continuously recruiting graduates, attorneys, CPA's, tech, and everything else. Then just in the past few weeks we dropped ten percent of the professional staff in one day. There are no more elaborate banquets. Even the bonuses have dwindled to sunday school collection money. And finally, raises were typically 8 to 12 percent. Most saw a 3.5 percent raise or no job at all - of course if you're one of the better employees you had nothing to worry about.

Most people I know of that are out of work have decided to go back to school, either to law school or a PhD. Finding a job right now commanding the type of pay that they're accustomed to is virtually impossible.

This is one of the few times I agree with you, Watsayu, as a former banker with a couple decades of experience, The expats come here and know nothing, what a shame. The expats support HI because they know they will get their work permits with no questions asked.

You know, I asked about these jobs in the financial services industry, which stipulates that you have to speak ridiculous foreign languages and ask for obscure certificate requirements. I find that gross!

One was asking for portuguese....but, do you know of any public or private school, which teaches or has taught the language in recent history? So, if it was that much needed, why hasn't any educational centre responded to it- from public schools, to private schools to the Grosvenor Close langauge centre in Shirley Street?

I don't want to get into a bash HI issue, as no one has ever looked at this. Maybe the FNM is slightly more gross in their neglect of the issue, but certainly, no one has done right by us to get things in place that secures Bahamian futures in this regard.

If they did:
1. There would be a revision in the languages training in this country, to meet that demand- from public schools, to private schools to after secondary training. Give grants and such to places that are here, so they can get the people in to get the training Bahamians need.

2. Immigration, would double check these foreigners, who have overstayed their time, and who have not trained Bahamian professionals- this is what folks are happy to sign the EPA for, so that more Europeans can come in and train Bahamians and grow our services sector. They have not done it then and they won't do it now.

3. Labour legsilation, which stipulates no foreign language requirement, would be in place and we would force businesses, to create more jobs by creating a foreign languages market- this would help, both ways and secure Bahamian in top wage earning jobs.

4. Anti-discrimination legislation, needs to come into effect. Political and Social and Sexual. How we do the first two, is a bit of a task- but, where there is a will, there is a way. The latter, is simply a matter of enforcing sexual discrimination laws we have on the books, already. For both male and female.

But, that does not give me the satisfaction, to see job growth in this country. We are in neutral as far as I can see.....the movers and the shakers, are either 1. working on the other side 2. not in this country, if they are not socially connected and 3. are foreigners, who create positions for their friends...and snicker all the way to the bank on us, while we beat our politicians, for catering to them over us!

This is one of the few times I agree with you, Watsayu, as a former banker with a couple decades of experience, The expats come here and know nothing, what a shame. The expats support HI because they know they will get their work permits with no questions asked.SEE the foolishness you talking.. HI was PM of our country for a mere 15 years.. if you include this term... the big crook was your boy SIR Linden... and his other crooked ministers....

People are stupid.
I hate to say I told you so, but...I told you so. Our firm for example, was flushed with cash like many others in 2006 and 2007 - and just like everyone else, they made very poor and very bad decisions. Everyone saw the DJIA jump to 13,500 then to 14,000 and then to 14,500 - in those quarters growth was phenomenal. But none of it was sustainable as it was all based on debt. Then when the debt market collapsed, all of that cash disappeared and now everyone realizes its time to tighten their belts.
We have a hiring freeze, when in years prior we were continuously recruiting graduates, attorneys, CPA's, tech, and everything else. Then just in the past few weeks we dropped ten percent of the professional staff in one day. There are no more elaborate banquets. Even the bonuses have dwindled to sunday school collection money. And finally, raises were typically 8 to 12 percent. Most saw a 3.5 percent raise or no job at all - of course if you're one of the better employees you had nothing to worry about.
Most people I know of that are out of work have decided to go back to school, either to law school or a PhD. Finding a job right now commanding the type of pay that they're accustomed to is virtually impossible.

But, the stupid part could have been left out, LOL..........

But, we still have other issues in this town, in regards to even basic job's. But, those jobs, are what Bahamian people have been taking for "great" jobs, in any event. People think $500.00 a week is good money......that's a good job to them!

There are always ways to make money, even in a recession- the work still needs to get done....that being said, we didn't have real job growth in the first place.

Un-employment will most likely go up. But, that's not the crux of this today....there are no solid jobs in the papers in addition with that.
I mean, no middle entry, no senior management for the most part...the same positions, have been in the news papers, for the last three weeks. No good entry level ones, either in the private sector or public...
On top of that, there has been no hiring from anywhere- trust me, I know. Not only have there not been ample jobs, but the job vacancies are held up because people need the work, but, the most likely can't raise the capital or the where with all to put the money on the table to get the kind of help they need....on top of that, we have over qualified people, doing menial work and tasks. Folks working with experience and degree's as tellers and CSR Rep's.
Maybe its me....but, certainly, there has been a slowdown in jobs. Maybe we never reall had any real job movement to begin with...
Even working for yourself must be a drag- trust me, I know.
There are always lean times and times of fat. But, I gatta say, this is the time of lean and there is hardly no room....ANYWHERE!
How's everyone else faring or getting on with it?

Well, if you cant find a job, MAKE ONE!

Or before the Bahamas bands wooden Haitian sloops, you can get back on one and go home. You bastard!

Well, if you cant find a job, MAKE ONE!
Or before the Bahamas bands wooden Haitian sloops, you can get back on one and go home. You bastard!
Easy Newbie...Those are fighting words in some circles.

Express your point, but don't come out blasting with personal attacks. At least become familiar with the personalities on this forum first.

But, the stupid part could have been left out, LOL..........
But, we still have other issues in this town, in regards to even basic job's. But, those jobs, are what Bahamian people have been taking for "great" jobs, in any event. People think $500.00 a week is good money......that's a good job to them!
There are always ways to make money, even in a recession- the work still needs to get done....that being said, we didn't have real job growth in the first place.

Job growth is easy. We all know what it takes. Nobody wants to do it. We talk about it all the time and waste time arguing about it. You can't have immediate growth and sustained growth at the same time. You either have to have immediate growth followed immediately by immediate decline or you can have slowed, but sustained growth over a longer period of time.

Too much people on Nassau. Get rid of them and problem solved. Now, you can argue about how it makes no sense to do so at this time all you want. But, in 6 months you'll be making another post about the same thing. Then 12 months from now, you'll do it again. And so on, after 5 years of complaining about the same thing...some of us get tired.