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seducer
05-12-08, - 10:00 AM
But do you think that the majority of Bahamians could?
Yes someone with vision and a plan for the greater benefit of this country. Gone are the days when we blindly follow although there are some exceptions like Watsayu.

Yahooey
05-12-08, - 10:19 AM
VOTE FOR THE COUNT
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watsayu
05-12-08, - 12:56 PM
Yes someone with vision and a plan for the greater benefit of this country. Gone are the days when we blindly follow although there are some exceptions like Watsayu.I have never realized how much effect I have had on the PLP untill a few days after the election of 07...

I got a few calls from PLPs what they said was interesting to me... :taped2:


Then here come the KING of all PLP seducer, and his cohorts... it is all about watsayu... BUT like I said to PLPs in the past...I am Bahamian.. I feel I have a right to say my truth..... I have a view... and YES, I will support anything as long as it is not PLP.. cause for me, PLP represents all things evil, crooked and SICK.....

licks2
05-12-08, - 01:19 PM
You ain't no nation builder you is a bull shedda, cuz you cyan even give an explanation as to why persons who have voiced legitimate concerns about building this country aren't worthy of consideration. You must be a CRONY who hangin' on one o dese party's ding dongs. Nation what? My ***!
Chile you gat some damn baltz on yasef!!! You come round here and put forth two names. . .wid no expleen"nation" why dem should be considered fer anyting dan toilet paper and wen we say no you ask "ha yinna ca say no with no explanations so"?

Wha ya tink dis is. . .aye? Das where yinna dumb azz politicians does lose right at da door!! Ask alien dem. . .BI een ya regularlly scheduled political one pony show by far!! Come better dan dat or ya ger get ya azz handed ta ya on one er sunny tuck shop paper plates. . .wid some frog pee all ova ya head ta boot!!!

So check ya damn sef and tell we why dem bouys een wutless like da rest er dem damn politicians!!!:hammer:

So nah. . . mr "ger-get-heem-azz-beat-up-round-here-real-soon" . . .you brought dem names up. . .so I too say feck dem till you tell ma why I should give dem any consideration or time at all!!! AND NONE ER DA REGULAR POLITICAL BULLSHED DAT BOUY CASSIUS DOES TROW ROUND DA PLACE!!! :hammer:

zotz
05-12-08, - 01:31 PM
If Perry Christie is still leader of the PLP, and the FNM's job approval rating is poor leading up to the 2012 election, does a third political party stand a chance of supplanting either of the 2 current leading parties as the new major opposition party in Bahamian politics?

With Instant Runoff Voting, perhaps, but still only a slim chance in the near future. As things stand, unlikely.

Mind you, strange and unexpected things happen. I never thought to see the Berlin Wall come down in my lifetime. I never thought to see the PLP lose in my lifetime, both happened. So, you never know.

Still I would net expect to see even a respectable showing by third party or independent candidates in the next election.

all the best,

drew

nationbuilder
05-12-08, - 01:35 PM
Chile you gat some damn baltz on yasef!!! You come round here and put forth two names. . .wid no expleen"nation" why dem should be considered fer anyting dan toilet paper and wen we say no you ask "ha yinna ca say no with no explanations so"?
Wha ya tink dis is. . .aye? Das where yinna dumb azz politicians does lose right at da door!! Ask alien dem. . .BI een ya regularlly scheduled political one pony show by far!! Come better dan dat or ya ger get ya azz handed ta ya on one er sunny tuck shop paper plates. . .wid some frog pee all ova ya head ta boot!!!
So check ya damn sef and tell we why dem bouys een wutless like da rest er dem damn politicians!!!:hammer:
So nah. . . mr "ger-get-heem-azz-beat-up-round-here-real-soon" . . .you brought dem names up. . .so I too say feck dem till you tell ma why I should give dem any consideration or time at all!!! AND NONE ER DA REGULAR POLITICAL BULLSHED DAT BOUY CASSIUS DOES TROW ROUND DA PLACE!!! :hammer:
LOL..chile licks you gat time wit dese folk! :shaky:

grouper2
05-12-08, - 01:48 PM
What are your thoughts about:
1) Cassius Stewart - Bahamas Democratic Movement
OR
2) Dr. Dexter Johnson - Bahamas National Party

Dr. Johnson nor Stewart are not ready for political success.Both of them,they are not doing anything noteworthy that will convenience the voters that they can manage the economy. Campaigning a year before the election will not cut it.

zotz
05-12-08, - 01:50 PM
If PC is not the leader of the PLP in 2012, you can bet your bottom dollar that the PLP will remain in opposition!! IMO.....

Actually, if the FNM keep going like they seem to be now, I think the PLP might have a better chance of winning with a new leader and lots more new blood.

The FNM are going to face similar issues soon themselves.

all the best,

drew

grouper2
05-12-08, - 02:14 PM
PC will not be the leader of the PLP.
Having said that, no a 3rd party will not have any viability in the Bahamas. The electorate isnt big enough, politically educated enough, and is far to loyal to their current parties. This has been reviewed, analyzed andd evaluated many many times, and I dont think it will ever happen.

I agree no 3rd party will survive, but if a 3 rd party is form and the leaders have a solid and workable plan and get it out to the people,god will do the rest soon you will see this country will fall in such bad state, the so call loyal parties supporters will start to see and feel for a change.

If the leaders of that 3rd party continue to delivered a strong and vibrant message that is in tune with the present time,1 by 1 they loyal supporters will start to listen and eventually third party will begin to grow. either the plp or fnm 1 of them will become history.

my crystal ball tells me......oopps nothing:taped2::footmouth

licks2
05-12-08, - 02:31 PM
It is not apathy that will result in the next political revolution. It is the exact opposite. It is the few who believe there is a better way, the few who are motivated to make a difference, the few who are willing to make sacrifices to see it happen. This few will reform a party from the inside out, revolutionalizing what the party stands for, energizing the populous. Tha twill be the next political revolution. The revolution has started.
There is a time in the evolution of any nation when "evolution" cannot produce anything but more variation on the same theme. . .with different players who are nothing better than those that they proported to depose for the good of the people!

History has taught us that "those few" who attempt to "change" things from the insides are uaually rearguards who has designs on "gettin" their share.

Normally they come with words and ideals such as "move back to the core ideals of the party. . .which we all know that life never "moves" back to ideals of nothing! That's the nature of people. . .we don't ever go back. . .power is never returned to a conquered people. . .internally or externally! They must take in order to produce radical changes. . .and again history has taught us that it has to be taken from without. . .or you just get more of the same!!

This was promised by pindling and crew, Free PLP, BDP, NDP, FNM, New PLP and every other political parties this side of heaven and for as long as man inheretred this earth!! None has delivered any real changes until the old guard was dismanteled completely! None whatsoever. . .not a one!!!

Therefore, the present PLP and FNM cannot be anything else but what they are right now. . .and anybody who promise to take it back to the ole ideals witout killing by the roots of any "power based" influences in high places is just talking azz!!! He/she is either deluded or is a schemeing politician who is looking to get his/her hands into that perverbial cookie jar we always hear about! Even though some like HI tried. . .like mercurary, the pieces just eventually congregate back into a messy whole! And God knows HI has and will continue to pay!!!! Even he tende to rock the cart just enough to get little changes, but not enough to screw-up his world!

You are wasting your time with that "I will take it back to the old idaels crap" . . .you are not prepared to suffer the kind of consequences it will take to revolutionize this political animal we have forged over the last 50 years or so! Are you prepared to loose you financial livelihood, freedom or even life? Or are you just willing to do enough to clear out a
patch" where you can make plenty money. . .and do no more to upset the apple cart? Are you a carlton francis or auther fowlke? Those men stood in the gap against what they saw as "distructive" for the Bahamain people. . .and they loss it all for that favor!!! I put it to you that "changing the party from the inside" is just your way of self protection. . .you will not have to stand alone. . .you will not be forced to become a marked man!!! What are you going to do. . .make the PLP a better bunch of criminals?

Then there were those who talked but when the sh!t hit the fan. . .they abandon the people to the fate of their political fathers. . .the ilk I put you in. . .you are not for the people good sir. . .you don't know how to be!!!! You are down as long as it's in your best interests. . .your words betray you good sir!!!

Good sir, the real truth is that the PLP party has become nothin but a criminal enterprise where friends and cronnies are enriched at the exepnse of the poor and degenerated into a sick excuse for anything but who should be going to jail but their social system keeps them out! And the present FNM is one person from becoming that same kind of criminal organization that is praying on the poor as well!

The other parties are nothing but social diseffected who has abitions and can''t get on either gravy train. . .so they are making up their own parties to get hands on that cookie jar thing as well. . .nothing more, nothing less!!!

In my eye sight linclon bain has more credibility than you do. . .at least he intimates that he wants change. . .but not dismanteling the oldguard. . .just changing some things is done! In other words, this one works for him. . .just change those little things that bothers his progress! That in real historical terms is what political evolution is as it is in local intents!:hammer:

Rest assured kind sir. . .revolution will come. . .but not from you and your kind. . .social disorganization spark revolutions. . .disaffected people decide to take back their nations. . .not the rich and connected orginazing to get richer!:hammer:

canesfins
05-12-08, - 02:39 PM
There is a time in the evolution of any nation when "evolution" cannot produce anything but more variation on the same theme. . .with different players who are nothing better than those that they proported to depose for the good of the people!
History has taught us that "those few" who attempt to "change" things from the insides are uaually rearguards who has designs on "gettin" their share.
Normally they come with words and ideals such as "move back to the core ideals of the party. . .which we all know that life never "moves" back to ideals of nothing! That's the nature of people. . .we don't ever go back. . .power is never returned to a conquered people. . .internally or externally! They must take in order to produce radical changes. . .and again history has taught us that it has to be taken from without. . .or you just get more of the same!!
This was promised by pindling and crew, Free PLP, BDP, NDP, FNM, New PLP and every other political parties this side of heaven and for as long as man inheretred this earth!! None has delivered any real changes until the old guard was dismanteled completely! None whatsoever. . .not a one!!!
Therefore, the present PLP and FNM cannot be anything else but what they are right now. . .and anybody who promise to take it back to the ole ideals witout killing by the roots of any "power based" influences in high places is just talking azz!!! He/she is either deluded or is a schemeing politician who is looking to get his/her hands into that perverbial cookie jar we always hear about! Even though some like HI tried. . .like mercurary, the pieces just eventually congregate back into a messy whole! And God knows HI has and will continue to pay!!!! Even he tende to rock the cart just enough to get little changes, but not enough to screw-up his world!
You are wasting your time with that "I will take it back to the old idaels crap" . . .you are not prepared to suffer the kind of consequences it will take to revolutionize this political animal we have forged over the last 50 years or so! Are you prepared to loose you financial livelihood, freedom or even life? Or are you just willing to do enough to clear out a
patch" where you can make plenty money. . .and do no more to upset the apple cart? Are you a carlton francis or auther fowlke? Those men stood in the gap against what they saw as "distructive" for the Bahamain people. . .and they loss it all for that favor!!! I put it to you that "changing the party from the inside" is just your way of self protection. . .you will not have to stand alone. . .you will not be forced to become a marked man!!! What are you going to do. . .make the PLP a better bunch of criminals?
Then there were those who talked but when the sh!t hit the fan. . .they abandon the people to the fate of their political fathers. . .the ilk I put you in. . .you are not for the people good sir. . .you don't know how to be!!!! You are down as long as it's in your best interests. . .your words betray you good sir!!!
Good sir, the real truth is that the PLP party has become nothin but a criminal enterprise where friends and cronnies are enriched at the exepnse of the poor and degenerated into a sick excuse for anything but who should be going to jail but their social system keeps them out! And the present FNM is one person from becoming that same kind of criminal organization that is praying on the poor as well!
The other parties are nothing but social diseffected who has abitions and can''t get on either gravy train. . .so they are making up their own parties to get hands on that cookie jar thing as well. . .nothing more, nothing less!!!
In my eye sight linclon bain has more credibility than you do. . .at least he intimates that he wants change. . .but not dismanteling the oldguard. . .just changing some things is done! In other words, this one works for him. . .just change those little things that bothers his progress! That in real historical terms is what political evolution is as it is in local intents!:hammer:
Rest assured kind sir. . .revolution will come. . .but not from you and your kind. . .social disorganization spark revolutions. . .disaffected people decide to take back their nations. . .not the rich and connected orginazing to get richer!:hammer:

Licks - you make a lot of conclusions about the type of person I am, the people that I am affiliated with that are just baseless. You have no idea who I am, what I am about, and who I affiliate myself with. You have no idea of my upbrinigning, my background, or the things I stand for. We have never met. I dont understand how you can come here, behind a mask of anonymity, and attack me like this.

Just another for the ignore list.

SpamStopper
05-12-08, - 02:57 PM
Vote for whoever Watsayu is not voting for :hammer::hammer:

Sunnyjohn
05-12-08, - 04:41 PM
Campaigning a year before the election will not cut it.


THANK YOU! any new party worth their name could

1. court every kid in this country 13-25. That group is your voting block in 2012.

2. After school programs,community centers, scholarships up the wazoo, summer camps...winter break camps....

3. Borrow money and build 2 state of the art communtiy centers in Nassau staffed from 3-7pm M-Sat...

4. Have computers an internet cafe and solid role models to offer classes to those kids. Put another in FPO and a smaller one in North Andros and Abaco. THat's 90% of the seats in the HOA right there for ya!

5. Attend every function and box knock.

6. Hire or attach to your party a press agent and spin doctor. Get on every talk show and in every paper at LEAST TWICE A WEEK!



7.Stay out of the PLP/FNM foolish talk. Your answer to those questions should be "Perry/ Hubert WHO?"

8.Stay above the political fray and help the people at their level of need. You really don't have to give away a whole lot. Deal with the kids. Parents LOVE people who are helping out their kids.

Over 50% of the Bahamas electorate is under 45. Win the youth vote and you can RIGHT your OWN ticket in the HOA.

10 Million will do it. A good accountant to make sure your funds aren't pilfered is important. They could make back that 10 million in less thatn one year as the governing party.

WIN THE KIDS, WIN THE PARENTS!

licks2
05-12-08, - 05:45 PM
Licks - you make a lot of conclusions about the type of person I am, the people that I am affiliated with that are just baseless. You have no idea who I am, what I am about, and who I affiliate myself with. You have no idea of my upbrinigning, my background, or the things I stand for. We have never met. I dont understand how you can come here, behind a mask of anonymity, and attack me like this.
Just another for the ignore list.
My point exactly. . .one pluck inna ya feather and ya run. Go ahead at ya own risk. . .you will only assure dat you een ger never make any real change!! I told ya you een ready. . .quiter. . .as a change agent fer real revolution. . .dat is! Nah I believe dat you ger make it financially, cos lurker voches fer ya. . .and I place plenty by what heem says. . .but my hunch bout you was right on. Iffin I was in politics and you came round bout you ger change tings. . .I was ger stomp ya inna ya head da same way. . .then you was ger quit. . . den I have stopped change. . .cos I wouldda put an effective stop ta you quickly!!! Das da firts law of "changing" tings. . .NEVER RESPOND LIKE A BEACH. . .act like ya in charge er tings . . .always! Never act like somebody "gat" ya number. . .always appear ta be da HNIC even iffin ya get a body blow. . .stand and deliver! :hammer: Das wha I like so much bout alien. . .heem get knock dawn plenty. . .but heen never "say dead". . .criticism roll offin he back like water on a duck's. . .ya een never can make he run by "callin" him number. . .he just keep on comin at da sound of every bell! And when heem come back. . .heem een slunkin either. . .heem come back punchin wid "all four" hands!

YOU WILL MET THIS. . .STAND YA GROUND ALWAYS. . .NO CRITICISM CAN HURT YA. . .DEM ONNY CAN HEP YA!!!!! Don run from me. .look at what I said. . .it can only be true or not true. . .decide which one within yasef. . .and say tanks or feck off and be on ya way!!!

GB-Bahamian-Boy
05-12-08, - 06:42 PM
I have said it before, and I will say it again. If da BDM was serious, they would have a full slate of candidates ready to go by the end of this year.

Not only do they campaign the year before, but on top of that can't even put up the full 41 candidates - noo man dat een gun cut it.