This is meant to be a sister thread to "Jobs? There aren't any!"

I have been thinking of this post for a good long time now, but the sister post has prompted me to post sooner than I might have.

I hope to perhaps go deeper into this but will wait for the first responses before perhaps delving deeper.

Now, this is not intended to be a start your own business thread, although that is one thing to consider for some when jobs are scarce. And that can fit within the confines of this thought.

No, this is about work that you can do where there may be no direct financial payoff after the work is done and yet you are still better off for having done it than you would have been had you sat idle instead.

Work that you can do around your home or in your neighbourhood. (Other places as well.)

I offer this thought as a possible counter to the malaise that can arise on hard times.

I hope I have been vague enough at this point to allow everyone's thinking to go where it will at the beginning.

all the best,

drew

This is meant to be a sister thread to "Jobs? There aren't any!"
I have been thinking of this post for a good long time now, but the sister post has prompted me to post sooner than I might have.
I hope to perhaps go deeper into this but will wait for the first responses before perhaps delving deeper.
Now, this is not intended to be a start your own business thread, although that is one thing to consider for some when jobs are scarce. And that can fit within the confines of this thought.
No, this is about work that you can do where there may be no direct financial payoff after the work is done and yet you are still better off for having done it than you would have been had you sat idle instead.
Work that you can do around your home or in your neighbourhood. (Other places as well.)
I offer this thought as a possible counter to the malaise that can arise on hard times.
I hope I have been vague enough at this point to allow everyone's thinking to go where it will at the beginning.
all the best,
drew



I did not reply to the other thread because i did not know if he wanted a job or he wanted to work. It seems that many persons in our society are comfortable doing the 9-5 and getting a pay check at the end of the week. Yet we seem not to want to venture out and take the bull by the horn and work for ourself. Alot of persons have talents within themselves that once tapped into can make an income. Granted while working for yourself may not at times be financially rewarding at times especially in the beginning, it has lots of benefits.Primarily you can set your own hours and work at your own pace.For example i met a lady the other day who had been laid off by a big department store. Instead of sitting at home crying, she tapped into her best skill which was cooking. She cooks twice per week for offices , banks and hotel staff. She told me that on average she makes $200 per day.which is good money I doubt few employers would pay even for mid management position. I saw another young person on television the other day her talent is crocheting.She makes beautiful crochet cell phone cases. Imagine if she sold them for an average of $25 each. If she sold 8 per day that still would be more than ideally doing nothing.While everyone will not want to be self-employed, to me if someone is unemployed it would be to their advantage to create their ouwn employment.

I did not reply to the other thread because i did not know if he wanted a job or he wanted to work. It seems that many persons in our society are comfortable doing the 9-5 and getting a pay check at the end of the week. Yet we seem not to want to venture out and take the bull by the horn and work for ourself. Alot of persons have talents within themselves that once tapped into can make an income. Granted while working for yourself may not at times be financially rewarding at times especially in the beginning, it has lots of benefits.Primarily you can set your own hours and work at your own pace.For example i met a lady the other day who had been laid off by a big department store. Instead of sitting at home crying, she tapped into her best skill which was cooking. She cooks twice per week for offices , banks and hotel staff. She told me that on average she makes $200 per day.which is good money I doubt few employers would pay even for mid management position. I saw another young person on television the other day her talent is crocheting.She makes beautiful crochet cell phone cases. Imagine if she sold them for an average of $25 each. If she sold 8 per day that still would be more than ideally doing nothing.While everyone will not want to be self-employed, to me if someone is unemployed it would be to their advantage to create their ouwn employment.

I pretty much agree with what you have to say.

I did the self employed thing for many years before I shut down operations. I got fed up with the book work side as well as a few other things. I now have a job where it is almost like being self employed and am very happy overall.

I would be happy for some discussion of self employment and business startups, especially on a shoe string as a part of this discussion, but I would like not to completely lose the idea of profitable work for no direct financial reward if anyone can wrap their heads around the thought.

Should we start a thread on self employment and second income ideas?

all the best,

drew

owning a business is very tuff especially in nassau bahamas where employee theft is high, armed robberies are frequent, and you not only have to compete with business in the bahamas but also business in florida.

not everone wants to own a business or has the skills to own a business.

i personally would never want to own a business.

Should we start a thread on self employment and second income ideas?

Yes, please.

owning a business is very tuff especially in nassau bahamas where employee theft is high, armed robberies are frequent, and you not only have to compete with business in the bahamas but also business in florida.

That's interesting, as I never really thought about that. However, if your prices are good, and service above average, I feel that Bahamians are more likely to purchase locally.

not everone wants to own a business or has the skills to own a business. I personally would never want to own a business.

You'll never get anywhere substantial working for the man every day of your life.

That's interesting, as I never really thought about that. However, if your prices are good, and service above average, I feel that Bahamians are more likely to purchase locally.
You'll never get anywhere substantial working for the man every day of your life.

as the hotels get duty free, we can never compete with them and the crackhead workers they bring down from the US who leave this country sometimes $500K richer. And then everyone else just expects you to work for free so .. Its pathetic.

Spammie, I ain' event hink about it like that man. Now you gettin me scared to move forward with this entrprenuer thing. All I know is that I need a second income, and fast.

Spammie, I ain' event hink about it like that man. Now you gettin me scared to move forward with this entrprenuer thing. All I know is that I need a second income, and fast.
Dont mind me, go do your thing. Your industry may be different clientel. You wont know unless you try :)

Yeah, I'm trying to think more globally than locally. Thus, if Bahamian's won't buy, then other nationalities will. If the e-commerce product is finalized and they can pay me online and I can receive the funds appropriately, then I'd be halfway there. I'm just stumped for a product right now. (I'm not very handy when it comes to arts & crafts). :(

Yeah, I'm trying to think more globally than locally. Thus, if Bahamian's won't buy, then other nationalities will. If the e-commerce product is finalized and they can pay me online and I can receive the funds appropriately, then I'd be halfway there. I'm just stumped for a product right now. (I'm not very handy when it comes to arts & crafts). :(

tough to do ecommerce from the Bahamas, many of the merchant account companies (i checked all the major players including the international ones) dont like the Bahamas ... black list? But paypal likes us now .. so could use that. Still have that whole delay until the money gets in your bank here before you ship the item .. less you have a US bank account it is deposited in right away.

Spammie, I ain' event hink about it like that man. Now you gettin me scared to move forward with this entrprenuer thing. All I know is that I need a second income, and fast.


Don't be scared to step out. Working for the man een never going to crack it. Somepeople think well at the end of the week you are guaranteed a pay check, but you may have some bosses who change with the full mood. Then again you may be having a bad day and refuse to crack a smile and he send you home.Don't just think about handicrafts, it maybe a skill you can do. For example you are good with computers.....well atleast you can type.If you wanted to do a computer related business at home...run with it.If you are good with book keeping there is something lots of people do partime and make good money from it. Trust me after you work for yourself, you will never work for the man again. But in the Bahamas just remember with clients tell them that mr. Credit has passed away.

That's interesting, as I never really thought about that. However, if your prices are good, and service above average, I feel that Bahamians are more likely to purchase locally.
You'll never get anywhere substantial working for the man every day of your life.

to be competive with you prices is impossible in the bahamas due to the duties and import taxes.

lets say i sell camera's in the bahamas. due to the import duties and taxes and cost of running a business i have to sell my camera at 250-300 when all the stores in florida selling the same camera for 120-160.

its a no brainer for a bahamian consumer to buy that camera from florida especially since they can bring it in duty free.

to be competive with you prices is impossible in the bahamas due to the duties and import taxes.
lets say i sell camera's in the bahamas. due to the import duties and taxes and cost of running a business i have to sell my camera at 250-300 when all the stores in florida selling the same camera for 120-160.
its a no brainer for a bahamian consumer to buy that camera from florida especially since they can bring it in duty free.

not all cameras though. .

tough to do ecommerce from the Bahamas, many of the merchant account companies (i checked all the major players including the international ones) dont like the Bahamas ... black list? But paypal likes us now .. so could use that. Still have that whole delay until the money gets in your bank here before you ship the item .. less you have a US bank account it is deposited in right away.

When did paypal change. I just checked a shot time ago and we could get accounts to pay with but not to be paid with. Has that changed?

all the best,

drew