Yes, having a degree in today's society does not amount to as much as one would think, and that is clearly obvious. 80% of what we learn is outside of the classroom, which includes how to interact with our fellow man and woman, and how to deal with conflicts when they arise. In any event I will leave you to your learning. Good luck with those tourist dollars and the tourists.


You sound defeated. Did I fluster you? My degree is my accomplishment (trust me , I dont wear it on my sleeves), no need for your smug remarks and angry tone. do you have a degree have yet?
You dont know me, my character or personality from a can of paint, so what would make you think that just because, in one instance, I voiced my concern for someone dissin' my backyard that I dont know how to articulate myself in person or writing without someone feeling that im aloof and rude. Dont make this me specific, you need also be concerned with the tourist dollars, The Bahamas economy depends on them, so we ( ALL Bahamians) are responsible in facilatating their continued presence in our market.
In any event, peace be with you.

hey fellow bahamians :)

i think we have a bigger problem right down on bay street and the harbour side .. now that is a real disgrace to the bahamas!

aint yall from the same island anyway, why the stress? :rolleyes:

You sound defeated

I am not defeated, because I never considered this a battle.



Did I fluster you?

I did not even break out in a sweat, this is not a 100m dash. I have the leverage to respond comfortably, or not at all.


My degree is my accomplishment (trust me , I dont wear it on my sleeves), no need for your smug remarks and angry tone. do you a degree have one yet?

I am on my way to two. But the reason I brought up the business of degrees, was because you had proudly mentioned that you had graduated from an HBCU. I was disheartened by your remarks to Bahamamommabonefish given you are a college graduate. In my humble opinion, I felt that your remarks could have been a lot more thought out given that fact, and the we are dealing with our main industry indirectly or directly as I see it, but that is just my opinion.

You dont know me, my character or personality from a can of paint, so what would make you think that just because, in one instance, I voiced my concern for someone dissin' my backyard that I dont know how to articulate myself in person or writing without someone feeling that im aloof and rude. Dont make this me specific, you need also be concerned with the tourist dollars, The Bahamas economy depends on them, so we ( ALL Bahamians) are responsible in facilatating their continued presence in our market. In any event, peace be with you.

No I dont know you. My response was not intended to be directed at you as an individual, but just your comments, which often happens on these public forums (expressing displeaure at certain comments). Anyway we have each said our five cents on this matter, so we will agree to disagree on your approach to the earlier post. I am sure we will agree on other things. :friday:

My Christ, I didnt sign up for this.I take it that you hierarchically distinguished me because I have a piece of paper. Point black, anyone would rather say, "I is rich" than "I am poor" there is already too much division in our people, we dont need to add another issue. Dont be so quick to take my statements out of context, you dont have to go to college to know how to understand what you read, because if you did you would have remembered I only asked why Bahamians want to go so far to school in the cold weather and I explained my logic in that, I did not brag and boast about me having a degree, as you assumed. Ill brag and boast about the experiences I had,but that's another story! I pray for me not to turn out to be a defensive tyrant everyday as not to force my beliefs on others. All of this is about respecting other people's opinion!

i mean, we dont need you badgering us, I should have been a little more succint with my response. None the less, go to another island!


How is bahamamommabonefish badgering you?

How is bahamamommabonefish badgering you?

:eek: ...and another one, I get the impression that people on this site are so defensive. Dont make it me specific, I was simply speaking on the economic welfare of Exumians, now im getting flustered!

:eek: ...and another one, I get the impression that people on this site are so defensive. Dont make it me specific, I was simply speaking on the economic welfare of Exumians, now im getting flustered!


I don't think that the member who started this thread has any intent on hurting the economy of Exuma. He/She is simply addressing a concern due to an experience said to have taken place. This is the forum for such concerns to be addressed in an open and mature manner (both of which you appear not to agree with). Telling someone to go to another island is not assisting their concern in any way and it interferes with the purpose of this community.


Do you understand?

I am taking a stand and will not ever travel to Exuma. After several friends where harassed and threatned because they where not fishing with "approved" Exuma guides and trying to fish on their own. The amazing thing was that they used these "approved" guides for two days prior and wanted to try and search for fish on their own. They did not even go to the same flats that they fished with the guides. They where told if they wanted to fish, they needed to use one of the guides. If they wanted to fish on their own, they needed to go to another Island or in fact. Does not sound like a very good situation and a lot of people are talking about this. I recognize that the this is the lively hood for these guides but extortion like this will hurt the economy in Exuma and other places that have this happening.

Apparently, this is the law and not extortion....Like they said you have a choice not to fish there. Other than that obey the people dem rules and stop complaining...

Playa i will like to invite you to Crooked Island there is no harrassment there , and it's virgin territory.....the fish are dying of old age.... lol and the others are :bye: dying to be caught we certainly will appreciate your presence and not be arrogant as to your wishes.

Who knows, maybe in 10 years, the people of crooked island may have to create a simular law like exuma...first we must investigate, why such a law was created, and who does it benefit....Can you imagine all kinds of foreign fisherman flocking to crooked island, taking advantage of the fishing and leaving no money for the local inhabitants....What would happen is crooked island would stay a backward country....

To Tiaesq:

That was a response that you obviously did not think about before posting. I hope that not all Exumians display the attitude you have when dealing with our tourist. If a tourist to our shores faces a similar situation as outlined by Bahamamommabonefish, you dont simply tell them to go away and go to another island, you try to help them with as much hospitality and civilty that you can muster, or anyone for that matter, tourist or not. Please do not be ignorant to the fact that tourist also visit Bahamasissues and read ignorant posts like these.

To Bahamamommabonefish I hope that your situation can be solved, and thatyou wont turn your back on Exuma. It is a lovely island, with many warm friendly people, it just has a few bad apples as is the case anywhere.

Actually, Tiaesq is only defending the decision of her local government there. This is why we created local government to assist in solving the personal problems of that particular island. There are simular laws that the central government has passed, concerning foreign fishermen. Due to their large ships and sophisicated equipment they are able to outfish the locals in minutes. One foreign fisherman's boat of one day can out fish a local's small craft out of a months worth of fish. We need to consider what we welcoming before extend invitations out....

Actually, Tiaesq is only defending the decision of her local government there. This is why we created local government to assist in solving the personal problems of that particular island. There are simular laws that the central government has passed, concerning foreign fishermen. Due to their large ships and sophisicated equipment they are able to outfish the locals in minutes. One foreign fisherman's boat of one day can out fish a local's small craft out of a months worth of fish. We need to consider what we welcoming before extend invitations out....
I'm So Glad To See That Sumbody On Tis Board Atleast Stopped & Tink Instead Of Bowing To The Almighty Tourist Dollar,Cuz Most So Called Fishermen Really Contribute Very Little To Our Economy Compared To What They Take.

I respect the tourist edge and all but that was between me and Bahamamommabonefish. Exuma is the "sailing capitol of the world"
You obviously have not seen the world. - all tourist are dying to get there! and with your attitude they will not want to came back. My post is innocent to say the least and Ill go further in saying any Exumian would defend our ISLAND just the same. Your making a big deal over other people's matters of opinion, (need I remind you that everyone has one!),your response was too aggressive and out of line WRT to me, there are far better things to be concerned about. Please, Bahamamommabonefish will have gotten over her gripe with Exuma after April and she'll tell about the wonderful time she had at Regatta! ;)

I think the tourist need to be told of fishing laws at the airport. A guide book of rules of exuma.
Should be something like getting a guide or a fishing licence that states where they can fish and what rigging they can use.

We do need to protect our resources and lively hood. Just as the tourist do in their own country.

I would like to go to England and take a chip of a rock at Stonehenge. Do you think I can. NO . Why Because if every one that went there could chip off a piece there soon would be no more Stonehenge.

I think the problem is about attitude. Attitude of the tourist and the Bahamian.

You obviously have not seen the world. and with your attitude they will not want to came back.


Where is your sense of nationalism, you dont have to look to the world or imply that someone hasnt seen it when the beauty is right here in your native land. Anywhere I go I will always proclaim the Bahamas as #1 and not look to nowhere in that. My attitude is positive is yours?

Greetings....

I did not mean to start this long trail of fighting and bickering...for that I apologize....But I must clarify a few things :

* There is no law in the bahamas that states one must fish with a guide while fishing on their own, while on foot. The only law states that anyone keeping fish must have a permit. This is when someone is fishing on foot or off the beach or in a boat. I agree with this law.

* Second the law states that business' in the business of entering bahamiam waters, and promoting guided fishing must use bahamiam guides. I agree with this.

* There is an organization or group of individuals who are using harrasment, etc to make tourists believe that they must use their services or they should go elsewhere. The person who runs this group is an American whose interests lie with himself and not the Exuma people.

* I did not expect to be told if I did not like they way the people where acting "Go to another Island" (Which I am now anyways )

* A college/university degree means little....people know who you are based on your heart, your kindness and your integrity.

* We all should be working together to protect the environment, culture, economy and health of a location. Groups with individual interests can be the downfall of any community......

* Fisherman in many locations contribute significant dollars to economies. Consider Andros...should fisherman stop going to Andros, that economy would be in dire straights. The same could be said for some other locales.

* Most (unfortunately not all) fisherman care about the economy, the environment and the health of where they go to fish. It just makes sense and is the right thing to do.

Tiaesq, if someone put a posting up about my "backyard", I too would defend it. But I would do it with a more open mind and softer approach.......

B

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