Question:
Can Vicky be banned for posting personal information about Truth Hurts? ie. that he was addidasboi's partner, details of his prior membership with RA, and dismissal, etc.?
I didn't know he and Aboi were together, I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel that Vicky just says too much about other people's personal lives, too often.
Anyway, I guess Delroy is giving him a long rope to hang himself with. Either that, or he's the teacher's pet.
Uh they let it out a while back

I have never mentioned anyone by name on this forum I have mentioned situations but everybody here doing that get over it.

There is more than meets the eye going on here..

I have yet to see a man and a woman where one is sterile reproduce. So they sould not be allowed to be married or to remain married now should they. Marriage is not about reproduction its about love and commitment to the one you love.

Now that statement is twisting it Vicky.

One's ability to reproduce is not a pre-requisite for marriage (though in some countries, it is, and one can have a marriage annulled if either spouse willingly withheld the fact that they cannot reproduce).

However, throughout history reproduction was the basis of a union between a man and a woman. Marriage just became the religious ritual, and lawful declaration for that active union.

If you didn't know this, you have now been schooled. If you were trying to twist and tangle this idea, your ply has been unravelled.

Uh they let it out a while back
I have never mentioned anyone by name on this forum I have mentioned situations but everybody here doing that get over it.
There is more than meets the eye going on here..

Well, I didn't know that.

Bottom line, most of what is discussed by you here, and responded to by other members, should be discussed via PM, phone call, e-mail, or in person.

Instead, you all come here and get the entire forum involved in it. I can't help but believe that it is attention you all are seeking. So I now put all of you in the same boat, heading up crap creek, without a paddle.

Off Course Vicky, if a man or a woman is unable from reproducing, that should never stop them from getting married. My belief is that LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER, (NOT HATE) is one of the main answers to all of the problems we are facing. Please everyone, I am posting based on Human Biology which I learned in High School, not for any other motives or hidden agendas and I will continue to make that clear, and Vicky pointed out something I missed as well in terms of a person who is sterile.
Everyone has rights, bottom line is to not abuse our rights and take advantage and violate those who are vulnerable or who did not have a choice as to who they are.
Live in Love My Bahamians (and Non-Bahamian) People
JD
good one as marriage is not about biology but love

Well, I didn't know that.
Bottom line, most of what is discussed by you here, and responded to by other members, should be discussed via PM, phone call, e-mail, or in person.
Instead, you all come here and get the entire forum involved in it. I can't help but believe that it is attention you all are seeking. So I now put all of you in the same boat, heading up crap creek, without a paddle.

:hammer::hammer::hammer:

Bottom line, most of what is discussed by you here, and responded to by other members, should be discussed via PM, phone call, e-mail, or in person.
Instead, you all come here and get the entire forum involved in it. I can't help but believe that it is attention you all are seeking. So I now put all of you in the same boat, heading up crap creek, without a paddle.

I totally agree. I know most of the posters here as I go way back to 2003, yet as different names.

Time to stop bringing personal stuff to the forefront.

I need to put my head back in the sand as a friend has become part of this forum and Vicky, in his usual way will bring the issue out to hurt that person publicly, even if they believe she/he is a friend.

Vicky, you are a rude, self centered and hurtful person, enough said.

Now that statement is twisting it Vicky.
One's ability to reproduce is not a pre-requisite for marriage (though in some countries, it is, and one can have a marriage annulled if either spouse willingly withheld the fact that they cannot reproduce).
However, throughout history reproduction was the basis of a union between a man and a woman. Marriage just became the religious ritual, and lawful declaration for that active union.
If you didn't know this, you have now been schooled. If you were trying to twist and tangle this idea, your ply has been unravelled.
Boy-Wives and Female Husbands enjoy
http://www.afriboyz.com/BoyWivesandFemaleHusbands.htm

I totally agree. I know most of the posters here as I go way back to 2003, yet as different names.
Time to stop bringing personal stuff to the forefront.
I need to put my head back in the sand as a friend has become part of this forum and Vicky, in his usual way will bring the issue out to hurt that person publicly, even if they believe she/he is a friend.
Vicky, you are a rude, self centered and hurtful person, enough said.
Confused, Deranged, Delusional, Egoistical, Narcissistic and Mental Paralysis are just some of the words that come to peoples mind when they read that persons post.

are you meaning the one he enrolled in Mount Carmel High School???? memory not as good now that I getting old how old was he again??

Vicky you are a pathetic SICK MINDED and MEAN SPIRITED person...I cringe at the thought that you speak on behalf of an organization that purports to uphold and protect the rights of GLBT when daily you lambast and pull them down...with your sick, twisted innuendos and childish antics...Honestly I'm shocked...

Oh yes he did

according to your recollection he did...but as you said earlier your memory is bad I guess it boils down to your word against his...and it has been established on BI and elsewhere that your "word" is not to be taken seriously...

but anywayone can be banned from anything and not need to be member
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SMT!!!....obviously you sat to the back of english class fully equipped with your dunce cap on...your very own definition suggest that newspapers were apart of the regular order of things until the dictator decided to ban them...illustrating my point...to ban something it HAD to be there before...

I can debate (or try to...cause this is getting tiresome) semantics with you all day...But again I guess it's back to my initial point...lets assume that he was banned from your group....what does that have to do with ANYTHING...it surely has nothing to do with this thread...while being a member of the RAB means something to you it surely doesn't mean much to alot of people...namely myself and truthhurts ( and THOUSANDS of other GLBT members who care not to associate with the RAB)...

If your attempt is to discredit him somehow then you're wasting your time... I know his worth and I know his virtue....none of which are measured by his past, present or future involvement with the RAB... my observation is he has been more supportive to me personally and to many other GLBT who are in need of assistance than any member of the RAB...and for that he forever holds my respect...So your attempt to derail this thread and make it personal (because you cannot effectively debate the ISSUES raised) have been noted yet quickly forgotten....try again...

You are refering to RAB core the core has had as hi as 16 right now its at 7 we call on members to join and work in the core as we need or if they have something to contribute and willing to take on that task. Remember we have no set leader ship as a top down structure. We do most of our communicating via email. We are capable of operating as cells because It is a circle where every person is equally as important as the next, and as responsible to the group as the next. An egalitarian structure requires everyone to be present, powerful, responsible, thoughtful; to have a say. Each and every person in the core in incharge of RAB and yet responsible to the group.. We are way more than 5. Yes we do socialize and support each other.

Isn't that all nice and sweet a whole 2 more than 5...Question: Who are these members (names and all who make up the core of your organization)....and before you answer my rhetorical question these " ghost members " chose to conceal their identity but daily you IMPLORE GLBT to live their lives in the open??...

But really this isn't about the RAB as a structure...it is YOUR (Vicky) inability to take criticism without being personal and mean-spirited....I MUST ask this question openly as my curiosity has been boggled today...What is YOUR involvement with the RAB?....Do YOU speak for them in a official capacity?...I'm hearing your voice as it pertains to this matter but not hearing anyone else's....

Non is superior. I did not beg to come back I simply stated my case to Delroy and proof is I am back. Erin knows why she was banned and it was not an accedent.

Sugar-coat all you want...you begged to come back...even to the point of creating another account which also was banned...making you one of the few members who have actually been banned twice...

Even so to the point of YOU phoning me personally when you were banned to start a thread on you to draw attention to yourself being banned....to attempt to gain sympathy from the readers because at that point it was obvious that no one cared and those that did rejoiced at your departure...the records speak for itself...

You and Turthhurts. I also said if you were thinking of getting married as you and your partner were asking about documents joining the 2 of you. I gave you some options if I remember.

Incorrect....Never once did we ask for any documents from you....You for a fact KNOW that you have NEVER discussed this with us.......You strongly need some psychological help to help with your delusion...You are a liar and I have resolved that you will say ANYTHING if it means you may appear right to win an argument...GROW up and don't back peddle now... you're initial comment that I should apply for a marriage license was intended to be condescending and intended to be an insult and a challenge...Maturity is admitting you're wrong...(I remind myself daily that the little person living in your head must be 5 years old)

It was an insult suggesting I divorce my wife with whom I am very much in love with

INSULTS???....anyway....it was an insult to suggest I casually go down to marriage license office to apply for a license...for the mere sake of doing it as you suggested...questioning how long we've been together....don't mislead the great people of BI into thinking me and you are some kind of good friends to the point that intimate details of my life are shared with you...we have no personal relationship and I don't even consider you a friend of mine...

to make life better for you.

Maybe you don't get it she is not asking for anything. She will charge the lines by herself if she has to. But if the commUNITY want to see change they need to step up.

When did you become her mouthpiece?...Can she not respond for herself??...I posed a challenge to her based on your request for the community to help...reality is...people rarely support people they don't know...I simply said that IF she wants their support she must go to them just as she "supposedly" went to you...and posted on BI...


Cassy and her wife to be calls the shots on this we can only make suggestion. She and her soon to be wife will have to make some big decisions about whats right for their lives. I only suggested that she sample the waters here on BI first as they are anonymous here and can back out if the water feels to rough before they go public. I have also suggested testing the waters in the circles they live in as I said before sociaty here is for the most part ok with us as long as we are invisable second class citizens. When this comes out there will be no taking it back.. They are barve even for thinking about it.
your suggestion while noteworthy holds no weight in the grand scheme of things....if by any means she thinks she can gauge the response of Bahamians by joining BahamasIssues and posting one or two posts then you have misguided her...this would be a bed of roses compared to what she may face...what baffles me though is...the young lady rarely has an opportunity to speak...YOU are doing ALL the talking for her...even so sneaking in tidbits of your life...it makes people wonder who this thread is really about...

Well, I didn't know that.
Bottom line, most of what is discussed by you here, and responded to by other members, should be discussed via PM, phone call, e-mail, or in person.
Instead, you all come here and get the entire forum involved in it. I can't help but believe that it is attention you all are seeking. So I now put all of you in the same boat, heading up crap creek, without a paddle.
I constantly lament over the fact that BI has to be bombarded with the childish personal attack and antics of Vicky...and my sometimes neccesary rebuttals... I am mature enough to accept that I could have ignored her and in some instances I should have....but Vicky is relentless and annoying...and oftentimes it is neccesary to respond to Vicky and her delusions... But I am only human...I am really glad though that people are beginning to see exactly how Self-Centered and mean-spirited Vicky is...and I thank all of the persons on BI who have been PM'ing with their support...

Vicky you are a pathetic SICK MINDED and MEAN SPIRITED person...I cringe at the thought that you speak on behalf of an organization that purports to uphold and protect the rights of GLBT when daily you lambast and pull them down...with your sick, twisted innuendos and childish antics...Honestly I'm shocked...Hey I only asked a question..
according to your recollection he did...but as you said earlier your memory is bad I guess it boils down to your word against his...and it has been established on BI and elsewhere that your "word" is not to be taken seriously...
SMT!!!....obviously you sat to the back of english class fully equipped with your dunce cap on...your very own definition suggest that newspapers were apart of the regular order of things until the dictator decided to ban them...illustrating my point...to ban something it HAD to be there before...
I can debate (or try to...cause this is getting tiresome) semantics with you all day...But again I guess it's back to my initial point...lets assume that he was banned from your group....what does that have to do with ANYTHING...it surely has nothing to do with this thread...while being a member of the RAB means something to you it surely doesn't mean much to alot of people...namely myself and truthhurts ( and THOUSANDS of other GLBT members who care not to associate with the RAB)...
If your attempt is to discredit him somehow then you're wasting your time... I know his worth and I know his virtue....none of which are measured by his past, present or future involvement with the RAB... my observation is he has been more supportive to me personally and to many other GLBT who are in need of assistance than any member of the RAB...and for that he forever holds my respect...So your attempt to derail this thread and make it personal (because you cannot effectively debate the ISSUES raised) have been noted yet quickly forgotten....try again...
Isn't that all nice and sweet a whole 2 more than 5...Question: Who are these members (names and all who make up the core of your organization)....and before you answer my rhetorical question these " ghost members " chose to conceal their identity but daily you IMPLORE GLBT to live their lives in the open??...
But really this isn't about the RAB as a structure...it is YOUR (Vicky) inability to take criticism without being personal and mean-spirited....I MUST ask this question openly as my curiosity has been boggled today...What is YOUR involvement with the RAB?....Do YOU speak for them in a official capacity?...I'm hearing your voice as it pertains to this matter but not hearing anyone else's....
Sugar-coat all you want...you begged to come back...even to the point of creating another account which also was banned...making you one of the few members who have actually been banned twice...
Even so to the point of YOU phoning me personally when you were banned to start a thread on you to draw attention to yourself being banned....to attempt to gain sympathy from the readers because at that point it was obvious that no one cared and those that did rejoiced at your departure...the records speak for itself...
Incorrect....Never once did we ask for any documents from you....You for a fact KNOW that you have NEVER discussed this with us.......You strongly need some psychological help to help with your delusion...You are a liar and I have resolved that you will say ANYTHING if it means you may appear right to win an argument...GROW up and don't back peddle now... you're initial comment that I should apply for a marriage license was intended to be condescending and intended to be an insult and a challenge...Maturity is admitting you're wrong...(I remind myself daily that the little person living in your head must be 5 years old)
INSULTS???....anyway....it was an insult to suggest I casually go down to marriage license office to apply for a license...for the mere sake of doing it as you suggested...questioning how long we've been together....don't mislead the great people of BI into thinking me and you are some kind of good friends to the point that intimate details of my life are shared with you...we have no personal relationship and I don't even consider you a friend of mine...
When did you become her mouthpiece?...Can she not respond for herself??...I posed a challenge to her based on your request for the community to help...reality is...people rarely support people they don't know...I simply said that IF she wants their support she must go to them just as she "supposedly" went to you...and posted on BI...
your suggestion while noteworthy holds no weight in the grand scheme of things....if by any means she thinks she can gauge the response of Bahamians by joining BahamasIssues and posting one or two posts then you have misguided her...this would be a bed of roses compared to what she may face...what baffles me though is...the young lady rarely has an opportunity to speak...YOU are doing ALL the talking for her...even so sneaking in tidbits of your life...it makes people wonder who this thread is really about...

I constantly lament over the fact that BI has to be bombarded with the childish personal attack and antics of Vicky...and my sometimes neccesary rebuttals... I am mature enough to accept that I could have ignored her and in some instances I should have....but Vicky is relentless and annoying...and oftentimes it is neccesary to respond to Vicky and her delusions... But I am only human...I am really glad though that people are beggining to see exactly how Self Centered and mean spirited Vicky is...and I thank all of the persons on BI who have been PM'ing with their support...
But this is not about me now is it.

I constantly lament over the fact that BI has to be bombarded with the childish personal attack and antics of Vicky...and my sometimes neccesary rebuttals... I am mature enough to accept that I could have ignored her and in some instances I should have....but Vicky is relentless and annoying...and oftentimes it is neccesary to respond to Vicky and her delusions... But I am only human...I am really glad though that people are beggining to see exactly how Self Centered and mean spirited Vicky is...and I thank all of the persons on BI who have been PM'ing with their support...

Wow!!!! I missed alot!!!! Could any one fill me in on the details?

uniting 2 people in marriage is not exclisive to christianty but here is one for you When Marriage Between Gays Was a Rite http://www.ashe-prem.org/five/duffy.shtml

Are you trying to make a point? There may have been a rite, but not necessarily endorsed by the Church. The article uses the words standardized and regularized, but that's not true of all the Church. Some decisions were left up to parish priest and more specifically local bishops. It also speaks of Christian writers supporting this, but that's not true unfortunately. You can read Augustine who thought that masturbating in a pool with other boys in his youth was child's play. There's a reason for that mind you, carnal sins are always lesser offenses. However, there is no Christian document or teaching that would support this. That's why when the Council of Trent came about, there were a lot of things dismissed because the Church wasn't always aware of what was going on in far off places. The Church decides what is valid and in its history, same-sex unions have never been, not by teaching or commitment of the whole Church. In other words, if the finding is true, that then means also that it's heretical.d I've heard this argument before, but it doesn't even begin to hold water when looked at from the perspective of the Church's history, teaching, and mission.

Morning everyone,

I dont need a mouthpiece and i dont have Vicky as a mouthpiece for me, I can speak for myself and like how you all are always online writing in this forum means that you have alot of free time to do this.

I dont have as much free time that you have so to say that i have a full time JOB. No i am not asking for any help of anyone here in this forum and if it goes public and i do have persons who are against or with what me and my girlfriend of 3 1/2 years are doing so be it.

Obvisouly i wont be calling any medias or anything to be there but you know how our people are very nosey and someone will find out and talk.

Also i dont want anyone to think that i am trying to push what i am doing on The Bahamas because its not like that I just want my partner and I to have a legal marriage ya see.

Anyway I am out.