View Full Version : Gays say they can marry in the Bahamas
adidasboi987 05-22-08, - 02:04 PM Morning everyone,
I dont need a mouthpiece and i dont have Vicky as a mouthpiece for me, I can speak for myself and like how you all are always online writing in this forum means that you have alot of free time to do this.
I dont have as much free time that you have so to say that i have a full time JOB.
Im proud of you.... (By the way most members of this forum do have full time jobs....kids etc...but I digress)....It many instances on this thread Vicky answered for you....which led ANYONE to assume that she was speaking for you....Im glad that you cleared that up though...
No i am not asking for any help of anyone here in this forum and if it goes public and i do have persons who are against or with what me and my girlfriend of 3 1/2 years are doing so be it.
Understood....I wish you all the best my dear...
Obvisouly i wont be calling any medias or anything to be there but you know how our people are very nosey and someone will find out and talk.
And giving them the heads up on this forum does what?....Prepare them to talk?...You put it out there (or we're persuaded to do so) by coming on this forum and alerting us of your intentions...Therefore people will be on the look out for you when you do....Is that really nosiness on their part?...
I say include the haters in your decision let them voice their opposition and state yuor case....the idea here is finding a middl ground...where democracy and due justice is preserved...doing this allows the Christian zealots and haters to voice their hate/opposition and allows you to show how your rights aren't hingent on their beliefs....but don't call da people nosey...
Also i dont want anyone to think that i am trying to push what i am doing on The Bahamas because its not like that I just want my partner and I to have a legal marriage ya see.
Anyway I am out.
If you are allowed to be married then ANY other same sex couple would also be allowed married hence the outcome of your "case" does inadvertently affect the Bahamas...I wouldnt venture to say you are "pushing something on the Bahamas either" but the outcome will definately have an affect....
Bahamasinmyheart 05-22-08, - 02:06 PM I suspect there are always religious undertones/reasons from persons when opposing causes such as gay marriages even when it is not quite obvious.
I say let the gays marry..no skin of my back. Let them have the same benefits and sufferings as heteros have in marriage.:taped2: Equality for all or equality for non.
and there it is!!! well said
songbird 05-22-08, - 02:18 PM Thats cause ive found that in the Bahamas people who argue for hate and intolerance usually also claim that religion made them do it.....etc..etc..etc. (not that i believe it to be true...or that they are particularly religious people themselves.... but its a convenient argument for them to make).
But your absolutely right ....you dont have to claim your pastor made you hate gays. You can just to hate gays all on your own.
"It doesnt sit right with them".....and they are??? Many people dont think blacks in higher education and professional jobs sits right with them. Many people dont like the idea of a woman president, prime minister, or judge because it "doesnt sit right with them"........ lots and lots of people are uncomfortable with interacial mariages....as you know......like you said:
"it just doesnt sit right with "them"
what doesnt sit right with me is peoples personal biases being allowed to have any impact on the lives of others. I dont care what sits right with "them" (suk teet)
"they" should live their lives and let others live their own.
Thats why we have laws that we hope judge people equally.
and i'll take them dillies thank you ;) i trying to save for a deposit on a house.
(its for me and my boyfriend tho.....we been living together for three years.....just an FYI in case you need to explain things to the chirrens...although im not sure what you would have to say?
Understandable, and I stand corrected. Also, I dont hate gays. :)
Oh in that case, i'll double the dillies :hammer:
well, children will ask questions on any matter.
Vicky 05-22-08, - 04:44 PM I didnt think that there was an argument against that. the question is, does the law of The Bahamas want to legalise unions between same-sex couples? no one's questioning the fact that it may be a christian concept to sanction only heterosexual couples. in fact, they seem to be the only ones willing to accept it (e.g. in the US and in Canada). You dont see Jewish or Muslim homosexual couples rushing off to get married.
What's wrong with the fact that the majority may just not be ready for this type of thing?
you are asking good questions with out throwing insults good for you and thank you.
Vicky 05-22-08, - 04:46 PM Boy I wish I had knew this before I went to London .... We really need to consider following CA
not just Canada but a lot of other countries.
Vicky 05-22-08, - 04:54 PM CHAPTER III
PROTECTION OF FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS
AND FREEDOMS OF THE INDIVIDUAL
15. Whereas every person in The Bahamas is entitled to the
fundamental rights and freedoms of the individual, that is to say,
has the right, whatever his race, place of origin, political opinions,
colour, creed or sex, but subject to respect for the rights and
freedoms of others and for the public interest, to each and all of
the following, namely-
(b) freedom of conscience.
I fail to see anything pertaining to sexual orientation. and for that matter, marriage.
I cant get the Marriage Act open right now. Sorry. Dont forget, the ruling in California is persuasive, not binding.
But, let me just say this. Although I'm not in agreement with homosexual marriages, if the arguments against it fall through, and this landmark legislation should pass, then I will just have to live with it, and attempt to explain it to my children.
and I'll give you my dillies. they too sweet fa me chall :)
do you see the word sex?? no discrimination based on sex, thus to prevent same sex marriage can't be done as the discrimination is based on ones sex. Marriage act says 2 persons can be married. There is nothing that says same sex can't be married except an un-writen policy.
Vicky 05-22-08, - 05:14 PM Im proud of you.... (By the way most members of this forum do have full time jobs....kids etc...but I digress)....It many instances on this thread Vicky answered for you....Point to a question directed to Cassy that I answered?? oh and if you notice post 214+ people responding to a question for Cassy. which led ANYONE to assume that she was speaking for you....Im glad that you cleared that up though...
Understood....I wish you all the best my dear...
And giving them the heads up on this forum does what?....Prepare them to talk?...You put it out there (or we're persuaded to do so) by coming on this forum and alerting us of your intentions...Therefore people will be on the look out for you when you do....Is that really nosiness on their part?...
I say include the haters in your decision let them voice their opposition and state yuor case....the idea here is finding a middl ground...where democracy and due justice is preserved...doing this allows the Christian zealots and haters to voice their hate/opposition and allows you to show how you rights aren't hingent on their beliefs....but don't call da people nosey...
If you are allowed to be married then ANY other same sex couple would also be allowed married hence the outcome of your "case" does inadvertently affect the Bahamas...I wouldnt venture to say you are "pushing something on the Bahamas either" but the outcome will definately have an affect....
licks2 05-22-08, - 05:22 PM does this site have a forum for recreational drug users,
cause the crackheads just keep popping up with the most hilarious jokes and suggestions
BABY JESUS: POSTMORTEM, there will be may jokes today, some are to entertain you, some will frighten you, but they're all to remind you that they had a choice, they chose to be idiots
:jawdroop:
You really need ta "pipe" dawn lovely. . .ya callin people all kindda names and shed. . .but you da onny one seems "hyped" and frazzled. . .col it dolly!:cutie:
Nah iffin licks2 tells ya ya "hpyed". . .ya really mussie damn HYPED CHILE!!!
Abaco Girl 05-22-08, - 05:22 PM Vicky, Really now , You Gat Issues and the way you are carrying on does not allow anyone to sympathize with you or your cause. Give it a rest my dear!
Otherwise can we all say:
JER-RY!! JER-RY!! Cause this sounds like it could be one of his shows!
Cassy 05-22-08, - 05:27 PM Hi too all,
I MUST SAY MANY PEOPLE LIKE TO BASH MS. VICKY AND SHE IS NO THREAT TO ANYONE, BUT EVRYONE IS A THREAT TO THEIR SELVES IF THEY LET ANYONE ELSE BE A THREAT TO THEM LOL.
THE ACT DON'T SAY WOMAN AND MEN ONLY ARE TO GET MARRIED AND SAME SEX MARRIAGE IS PROHIBITED. nO NO NO NO :jawdroop:
ONLY THE PEOPLE OF THE BAHAMAS FEELS THAT SAME SEX MARRIAGE IS WRONG YA KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN LIVE HERE PAY BILLS HERE AND BANK HERE.
hmmmmmm WONDER WHY THAT IS POSSIBLE:dgi:
WHEN THERE ARE ALOT OF GAY PERSONS OUT HERE THAT ARE IN HIGH PLACES...................
AND YES WE DO HAVE PERSONS WHO ARE GAY AND DONT THINK SAME SEX SHOULD BE MARRIED........ THINK ABOUT IT (LOL)
PLEASE HELP ME SOMEONE??????
Abaco Girl 05-22-08, - 05:33 PM Go down and apply for a license, if its legal they have to issue you one!
Abaco Girl 05-22-08, - 05:40 PM I am not bashing Vicky, but it gets a little old sometime when it seems this is what every thread turns into, a pity party for Vicky!
Any way I gone home!! My day has ended, my only regret is that I even went on this site this afternoon!
watsayu 05-22-08, - 05:58 PM Go down and apply for a license, if its legal they have to issue you one!YOU make a good point.. so GO and get your licence and go and do what YOU WANT to do...:hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer:
Cassy 05-22-08, - 06:16 PM hello i never said you bashed vicky i never called any name all i was doing was say what is facts.
And in case you didnt read the THREAD ITS SAYS VERY LOUDLY RE: Gays say they can marry in the Bahamas
WELL I HOPE NOT TO HEAR FROM YOU TOO SOON
I am not bashing Vicky, but it gets a little old sometime when it seems this is what every thread turns into, a pity party for Vicky!
Any way I gone home!! My day has ended, my only regret is that I even went on this site this afternoon!
Cassy 05-22-08, - 06:18 PM I NEVER SAID IT WAS LEGAL OR NOT I SAID THAT IN THE MARRIAGE ACT THAT IS WRITTEN AND WRITTEN THAT IS ON PAPER THAT IT NEVER SAID ANY THING ABOUT SAME SEX NOT BEING ABLE TO MARRY.
SO IF IT IS ILLEGALL WELL SHOW IT TO ME AND THE ONLY WAY THEY WILL NOT ISSUE IT IS BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT IT TO BE DONE HERE.....
NOW I AM OUT
Go down and apply for a license, if its legal they have to issue you one!
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