What is it that makes them ignorant because they refuse the idea of homosexuality?? Ignorance means a lack of knowledge, but not accepting or condoning that lifestyle how does that make one ignorant. If you cannot show what knowledge this persons are lacking then please use a word with its appropriate meaning. Also we all are ignorant on something, tho some round here tink dey know more den der encyclopedia, thesaurus and dictionary combined
Sorry to answer for him....But to grasp the "ignorance" that he (BIMH) speaks of you would have to have read the thread in it's entirety...

The thread progressed slowly from...When they (same sex couple)challenge the law/policy..they will be sent straight to fox hill prison to likening homosexuality to paedophilia, bestiality and polygamy...All incorrect...showing an obvious IGNORANCE to fact and a clear display of Bigotry and Hate...

Acceptance or Approval is neither desired or required to have a civil conversation...

No response yet Postmortem???
ma man you ain stop running on yet

what's your definition of a real Christian?
not you:jawdroop:

i have never heard RAB say that marriage was a right
there is a human right to be relationship with whichever consenting sound adult you choose
there is a constitutional right to equal access to the law, to the state and its services and benefits

Actually, I believe in intellegent design which does not have a contingent of ten thousand years, on the other hand it considers evolution as a valid theory however rests the initial creative force with God.
By this premise, I could easily argue that since all scientific research indicates that one's sexual orientation is Not by choice, then homosexuality has to have been created by God... :taped:

In fact, it is... :hammer:

Marriage is a religious and societal norm that has requirements and from its initiation has been between a man and a woman, requiring a constitution of life and love. Even in the case of non-monogomous marriages, it has been exclusively to men and women. YOU ARE WRONG, PRIEST... Throughout human history, marriage has never been exclusively between a man and a women...

Here is an excerpt from Same-Sex Marriage: Pro and Con ,
written by Andrew Sullivan

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Chapter One
For the First Time Ever?
SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IN HISTORY

One of the recurring clichés of the same-sex marriage debate is that the very notion of such a thing is a radical departure from anything entertained before in human history. Nothing, however, could be further from the truth. In many cultures and in many eras, the issue has emerged-and the themes of the arguments are quirkily similar. Same-sex love, as Plato's Symposium shows, is as ancient as human love, and the question of how it is recognized and understood has bedeviled every human civilization. In most, it has never taken the form of the modern institution of marriage, but in some, surprisingly, it has. In seventeenth-century China and nineteenth-century Africa, for example, the institution seems identical to opposite-sex marriage. In other cultures... the meaning of same-sex unions remains opaque and complex. In Native American society, marriage between two men was commonplace, but its similarity to contemporary lesbian and gay marriages is far from evident. And today in a number of foreign countries, laws extending civil marriage to gay and lesbian couples have been or will soon be enacted. Judge for yourself what this might mean for our current convulsion. One thing emerges clearly: this issue is not a modern invention. The need to balance human dignity and social norms is as old as civilization itself. Although much of the past history of this debate has been buried until recently, it has begun to emerge again with all the passion that now crackles through modern Western culture.

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As for being in the dark ages, I'm not. Apparently marriage is still a revolutionary idea, especially in the context of one man, one woman. It's interesting that people find it a crazy idea, and a dark one, that two people should want to come together to love one another and bring forth life. By the way...
See the above excerpt from Same-Sex Marriage: Pro and Con ...

Why don't we worry so much about a child's right to a father and mother? We have people doing enough damage this way by jumping from girl to girl and opening them legs from man to man. Why would we find another way to deny children that right?
IMO, the more appropriate question should be, how does same-sex marriage denies children their right to LOVING PARENTS? The facts of the matter are many in the GLBT Community are parents, and, in some cases, are the primary caretakers of their children. Accordingly, same-sex marriage would give their partners the same legal rights and privileges, in regards to the care of these children, as their heterosexual counterparts... :hammer:

Moreover, it is the status quo that denies children, who are apart of a loving and caring same-sex household, legal rights and guarantees, by disallowing their same-sex parents the right to a state sanctioned "marrriage"... :hot:

Why not focus on people's right to education and a good one at that? Why not perhaps, on homosexuals actual right, to understanding and compassion? Why not focus on those who are actually denied their rights and the rights that they have truly been denied?
I DO... Thus, my participation on this forum as a proponent of the basic human rights of same-sex couples to make application for a marriage Licence and be "married" in accordance with the Laws of the Commonwealth of the Bahamas... :hammer:

Marriage in itself may not be a basic human right by the definition (illustration) that you gave BUT the denial of marriage based soley on the premise of sexual orientation is discriminatory AND discrimination in ANY form is the trampling on of someone's (in this case a group of people) rights...Just as a JOB neccesarily isn't a human right...BUT the denial of employment based on either race, sex, or sexual orientation is an infringement of human rights...




Denial of Marriage is discrimination ??

YOUR rights are trampled? That's it -- my rights are being trampled. I cannot use the Ladies Washroom whenever I want. Other people woman have these rights, and I am being discriminated against.

Help help .. I am being oppressed.

I applied for the job of a bra-fitter in a department store, and I was turned down because I am a man-- denied my basic human rights to providing for my family.

Help help .. I am being oppressed.

My girlfriend is going to sue, because she is not allowed to be a sperm donor. She is being discriminated against.

Help help .. she is being oppressed.

I can't earn $40,000 as a surrogate parent and carry someone else's baby to term. They said that I was too tall. Help help .. I am being oppressed.

If you don't qualify because of sexual orientation -- that is not discrimination.

Denial of Marriage is discrimination ??
YOUR rights are trampled? That's it -- my rights are being trampled. I cannot use the Ladies Washroom whenever I want. Other people woman have these rights, and I am being discriminated against.
Help help .. I am being oppressed.
I applied for the job of a bra-fitter in a department store, and I was turned down because I am a man-- denied my basic human rights to providing for my family.
Help help .. I am being oppressed.
My girlfriend is going to sue, because she is not allowed to be a sperm donor. She is being discriminated against.
Help help .. she is being oppressed.
I can't earn $40,000 as a surrogate parent and carry someone else's baby to term. They said that I was too tall. Help help .. I am being oppressed.
If you don't qualify because of sexual orientation -- that is not discrimination.

LOL, that was a good one. I like the "Help, helps".

Well muddos...dis thread still going!

Well muddos...dis thread still going!


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Wasup with this marriage thing, why not just get a legally recognised union that gives all the rights of a married couple and make a will. Then fly to San Francisco or Canada and get married if you must; I've heard same sex marriages were done here a few times already anyway.
My thing is why argue trying to change other people mind , there is more than one way to skin a cat.

I still maintain that gay marriage is a subversive plot to end gay sex.

Huh? :confused: I don't get this at all.

(You'll have to excuse me, I jes reach.)

BLACKBELT and good advice don't in any circumstance equate...but I digress...

That is exactly what is wrong with this country... We are so misguided into thinking the way to solve our problems and to ease our discomfort is to sweep things under the carpet and pretend normal..."oh if the gays would just stay in the closet...God may just pass us by with his wrath..."...Utter nonsense.

...When in fact this has nothing to do with God or Religion...it has to do with our personal dislikes and the things that makes us (for whatever reason) uncomfortable...Christian zealots have used the "God's wrath" smoke screen for centuries to justify all manner of evil/injustices against people...The fact remains that the God YOU serve even tells you to "seek out your salvation for yourself"...concern yourself not with the actions of other people...your faith is one personal to YOU...it is a reflection of your innermost feelings toward YOUR God...It should however in no way force me to beckon to what YOU deem (today) to be "Christian"...or inadvertently trample upon my rights as a Bahamian....Either that or we simply remove from the constitution the part dealing with religious freedom....Because really and truly that is what we are talking about here....Hysteria tactics used to blind the masses into thinking if we don't adapt the Christian way and condemn homosexuality we will all be doomed...You can find anyone else on this site to debate religion vs. homosexuality part 156...But I will not...The crux of the matter is and the purpose of this thread (I assume) is to debate LAW as it relates to Gay Marriage in the Bahamas...
Excellent! Somehow I missed this post this morning. I will respond shortly.

Sorry to answer for him....But to grasp the "ignorance" that he (BIMH) speaks of you would have to have read the thread in it's entirety...
The thread progressed slowly from...When they (same sex couple)challenge the law/policy..they will be sent straight to fox hill prison to likening homosexuality to paedophilia, bestiality and polygamy...All incorrect...showing an obvious IGNORANCE to fact and a clear display of Bigotry and Hate...
Acceptance or Approval is neither desired or required to have a civil conversation...

cosign

...and thank you.

Do not PM me! I am not interested. Check those threads again, they are based on news articles or things mentioned in the press. When since posting things from the press became pro- an issue? Sweetie ya looking for support in the wrong camp! I always post news articles, this is nothing new. BI records don't lie!!

If you think me not accepting gays is a violation of your human rights and if it was an offense punishable by imprisonment, then ya might as well call me the vilest offender, lock me up and throw away the key!
They are things that NORMAL people go through every day. They make good discussions and do not go to 20 pages, umpteen rows and name calling. This site has a lounge where anything can be discussed, I utilize it.

What you all are doing is an abomination unto God, God destroyed a whole city and every living thing that remained therein, including plants.
Do not believe that you have the support of a lot of people in this country and on this forum, because you do not! Many of you are tolorated because you are humans just like us however, your ways are not accepted by the majority.
Again I don't do the P.M thing!!! Those bunch of p.m's and running on ain my cup a tea. I see the gay rows on another thread and I ain fa that! I don't want to cook nobody grits on this forum!
Turn from your wicked ways, seek God's face and he will heal the Bahamaland!


Fed up too eh B-Godess? Can't say ah eva seen this side of ya... :tup:

Huh? :confused: I don't get this at all.
(You'll have to excuse me, I jes reach.)

The quickest way to end wild exciting sex is to a person is to get married.