Anyway I took the liberty of googling it: i wish i was home, because you know the true stance of such things is never on the Internet. The US Department of State (smt) has an online report of our country's human rights practices for 2003.
Found an interesting piece of information (not saying that its binding, as in its primary, after all its from the United States):
c. Freedom of Religion
The Constitution provides for freedom of religion, and the Government generally respected this right in practice. There was no separation of church and State in the country, and the Constitution explicitly calls for respect for Christian values; however, there were no allegations of violations of religious freedom during the year.
I cited that to ask: well if there is no seperation of Church and State in The Bahamas, would it not follow that the Church has an integral and indeed obligatory say on moral issues (in turn, laws) such as homosexual unions?
Firstly, as a proud Bahamian, I find it interesting that you would site a United States State Department Report of my country's human rights practises for 2003 as a basis for your arguments. I am sure it is a classic example of the jet black pot calling the gray kettle BLACK!

You should Goggle how the United States Military and CIA has tortured civilians at its prisons at Guantanamo Bay Naval Air Station, Cuba, how white police offices in its inner cities continue to assassinate black youths and are find totally innocent in their courts of law... Now there is something that you could research, aye?

Show me where in our Constitution that we are a Christian Nation, whose laws are taken directly from the bible... show me where we have an established state church... to make your job easier, here is a link to a copy of the Constitution of the Bahamas::hammer::hammer::hammer:
http://www.lexbahamas.com/bahconcitizen.htm

Thanks for the link :hammer:

And Whereas the People of this Family of Islands recognizing that the preservation of their Freedom will be guaranteed by a national commitment to Self-discipline, Industry, Loyalty, Unity and an abiding respect for Christian values and the Rule of Law;
Now Know Ye Therefore:

Well i wonder why no one else was mentioned?

If our laws are taken directly from the Bible? I have been informed that sodomy is still a crime. and that's taken from Leviticus 18:22 (lol sorry for the bible study again adidasboi, but he asked :D :cutie: )

Also, take a look (for me please, i dont knwo why but it wont open for me:sparky:) at Chapter 101, cited as the Criminal Law (Measures) Act 1991. Most of Leviticus 18 is in there, including a very very horrible problem that we seem to have in our country: incest.

The former state Church of The Bahamas was the Anglican Diocese of the The Bahamas including the Turks and Caicos Islands. But it was removed by the Methodist majority in the House of Assembly in the late 1860s and the stipend paid to Anglican priests by the government was discontinued. (all right i see you on that one).

Firstly, as a proud Bahamian, I find it interesting that you would site a United States State Department Report of my countries' human rights practises for 2003 as a basis for your arguments. I am sure it is a classic example of the jet black pot calling the kettle bLACK!
You should Goggle how the United States Military and CIA has tortured civilians at its prisons at Guantanamo Bay Naval Air Station, Cuba, how white police offices in its inner cities continue to assassinate black youths and are find totally innocent in their courts of law... Now there is something that you could research, aye?

wasnt this entire thread started on a US case? and remember, I DID SAY IT IS NOT BINDING AS IN ITS NOT PRIMARY. READ BAHAMAS!!!!!!!!!! I just said it was interesting. and yes TruthHurts, i've heard about all those practices. that's why IT IS NOT BINDING IT IS NOT PRIMARY. Just interesting.

Are you into Beastiality or something, like you is do it with billy goats and ting??
Man thats just sick, thats Animal cruelty also!!!! The poor animals never consented to have sex with you yah evil DEBIL!!!!! :hammer::hammer:

God aint pleased with yah right now for all da deblish talk you spewing on here ..
REPENT REPENT REPENT .. come back to Jesus!! :hammer: :hammer:

In the meantime SpamStopper will label it is a VIRUS!!! :hammer:

My friend dog stay humpin my leg, but I een never give him consent.

Thanks for the link :hammer:
And Whereas the People of this Family of Islands recognizing that the preservation of their Freedom will be guaranteed by a national commitment to Self-discipline, Industry, Loyalty, Unity and an abiding respect for Christian values and the Rule of Law;
Now Know Ye Therefore:
Well i wonder why no one else was mentioned?


an abiding respect for Christian Values is totally left for speculation and interpretation... I have respect for many things to which I don't myself follow or abide by.... That statement merely acknowledges the fact that the predominant attitude of Bahamians is viewed in a Judeo-Christian perspective.... But nonetheless our laws are not written to reflect exclusivity... The right to a freedom of religion and religious association clearly points that out...

If our laws are taken directly from the Bible? I have been informed that sodomy is still a crime. and that's taken from Leviticus 18:22 (lol sorry for the bible study again adidasboi, but he asked :D :cutie: )

our laws are NOT taken directly from the Bible....as for sodomy...is it?...As you have been informed could you kindly "inform" the members of this site...and post the law to support it..


Also, take a look (for me please, i dont knwo why but it wont open for me:sparky:) at Chapter 101, cited as the Criminal Law (Measures) Act 1991. Most of Leviticus 18 is in there, including a very very horrible problem that we seem to have in our country: incest.


Those laws are rooted and stemed from the basic principles of our constitution that preserve the rights of the individual...that is the right to live...to not be slave to anyone...and the opportunity to live life productively as a Bahamian... NOT because it so happens to coincide with SOME Christian Doctrine... "Thou shalt not murder" is applicable to many Religious Doctrine... is it then fair to say that our law is based on their religion too?.... It's just common sense that murder and stealing should in a democratic country be illegal... your paralleling that to a country being a "Christian Nation" kinda doesn't make sense...

however, there are fine Bahamians -- Hindus, Buddhists and atheists, to cite just three examples -- who do not accept the Bible as the basis for their religious beliefs and practices.

Yes, but while in the Bahamas, they must adhere to any laws based on the Christian faith. An example would be Bahamians only being allowed to have one wife/husband. Or shops not being allowed to be open on Sundays.

Similarly, in a Middle-Eastern country, we would have to follow rules based on the Islamic faith.

If we were to strictly follow your “human reproduction” argument, presuming that the same-sex couples are not infertile, they can still have children “naturally” with utilising a segregate male or female.

No. This is not natural. It is ARTIFICIAL insemination. To take your point further, when artificial insemination was not available, how could a homosexual couple reproduce?

Accordingly, a couple’s ability or inability to reproduce is not a criterion for a state-sanctioned marriage license.

I'd like to know what is. I can't locate a list of criteria.


Your post was very long, but I just wanted to take a closer look at these points.

I am 1/2 way hijacking this thread
:hammer:....ABSOLUTELY... But don't feel too bad you're not the only one..

You know, it's funny what dictionaries define marriage as.

Alrighty then...just a few questions inquiring minds wanta know de answer fo.

(1) Iffen two homosexucals get married, who takes the others surname?

(2) Iffen two lesbians get married, how do they go about the name change and who play the HUSBAND,seein that our laws provide fo certain duties belonging solely to de husband?

(3) Seein that its medically impossible fo homosexucals or lesbians to reproduce,can yinna marry a close relative?



I gatz a few mo, but these will suffice fo now.

an abiding respect for Christian Values is totally left for speculation and interpretation... I have respect for many things to which I don't myself follow or abide by.... That statement merely acknowledges the fact that the predominant attitude of Bahamians is viewed in a Judeo-Christian perspective.... But nonetheless our laws are not written to reflect exclusivity... The right to a freedom of religion and religious association clearly points that out...
our laws are NOT taken directly from the Bible....as for sodomy...is it?...As you have been informed could you kindly "inform" the members of this site...and post the law to support it..
Those laws are rooted and stemed from the basic principles of our constitution that preserve the rights of the individual...that is the right to live...to not be slave to anyone...and the opportunity to live life productively as a Bahamian... NOT because it so happens to coincide with SOME Christian Doctrine... "Thou shalt not murder" is applicable to many Religious Doctrine... is it then fair to say that our law is based on their religion too?.... It's just common sense that murder and stealing should in a democratic country be illegal... your paralleling that to a country being a "Christian Nation" kinda doesn't make sense...

dang i wish i could get the hang of that multi-quote thing. i understand your first statement, and yes the bahamas does have freedom of religion. BUT the Bahamas Government has an abiding respect for Christian values. I understand your point though. I will TRY to find the Sodomy thing. for some unknown reason the laws refuse to open on my computer :(.

The "thou shalt not murder" thing with other religions. lol c'mon now adidasboi, generalising/floodgate is a cop-out. i wonder where the framers of the constitution got it from, being Christian attorneys and businessmen. It doesnt "happen" to coincide with some Christian value. LOL why would they put Christian values there in the first place? But your point is understood and duly noted. I leave it there.

Thanks for the link :hammer:
And Whereas the People of this Family of Islands recognizing that the preservation of their Freedom will be guaranteed by a national commitment to Self-discipline, Industry, Loyalty, Unity and an abiding respect for Christian values and the Rule of Law;
Now Know Ye Therefore:
Well i wonder why no one else was mentioned?
If our laws are taken directly from the Bible? I have been informed that sodomy is still a crime. and that's taken from Leviticus 18:22 (lol sorry for the bible study again adidasboi, but he asked :D :cutie: )
Also, take a look (for me please, i dont knwo why but it wont open for me:sparky:) at Chapter 101, cited as the Criminal Law (Measures) Act 1991. Most of Leviticus 18 is in there, including a very very horrible problem that we seem to have in our country: incest.
The former state Church of The Bahamas was the Anglican Diocese of the The Bahamas including the Turks and Caicos Islands. But it was removed by the Methodist majority in the House of Assembly in the late 1860s and the stipend paid to Anglican priests by the government was discontinued. (all right i see you on that one).
remember the part that mentions "Spiritual Values"
that's right
with a capital V,

plus compare the language
an abiding respect for is not the same as adherence to
lol
all these lawyers
:jawdroop:

...not the law student schooling the "lawyer"....

My friend dog stay humpin my leg, but I een never give him consent.

den pick him up and trow him in traffic :hammer:

den pick him up and trow him in traffic :hammer:

hmph suppose your lady friends did that to you!!!

Alrighty then...just a few questions inquiring minds wanta know de answer fo.
(1) Iffen two homosexucals get married, who takes the others surname?
(2) Iffen two lesbians get married, how do they go about the name change and who play the HUSBAND,seein that our laws provide fo certain duties belonging solely to de husband?
(3) Seein that its medically impossible fo homosexucals or lesbians to reproduce,can yinna marry a close relative?
I gatz a few mo, but these will suffice fo now.

(1) Because I do not know the laws of the Bahamas, a serious question from me: Are there laws concerning who gets to take who's surname in a hetero marriage?
(2) I'm SURE there are duties that are "supposed" to be played by the HUSBAND in hetero relationships/marriages that the wifey plays either by choice or demand...so I don't see a difference.
(3) Is it legal for a hetero couple to do that? GBLT's aren't asking for something MORE than marriage ...just equality.