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gangaluva
10-27-08, - 07:43 PM
:jawdroop: when did this happen?

shatoya
10-27-08, - 07:51 PM
Hey even Ketchup can marry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qoXSpxv2u0

I understand both sides, the christians want to keep marriage as their thing and GLBT don't want to be treated differently even if its in name only. There is nothing stoping a civil partnership from being done with all the traditions of a wedding.

But for me I don't care what you call it its still a marriage no matter whats on the licence the 2 people are bonded together as one just like marrying ketchup.

You have some good arguments but i hope you see where the difficulty is.....when you intend to challenge the law you should be prepared for all kinds of arguments against it. They will be valid just as yours will be valid. It's like religion, everyone is right but we still have wars over it.
There is always two sides to a coin so you can expect opposition on this issue no matter what.
The only solution i see is acceptance, when people understand they will accept until then it will be rough....especially in the carribbean.

Lady Russell
10-27-08, - 09:19 PM
amen lady russell. We must save the little that we have as it relates to the family> man /woman/child.


There was just ons Scriptural reference that I wished to share with persons who insist on travelling this downward spiral to an early grave with this gay marriage conversation and that is John 3:16 which reads: "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only son (JESUS) that whoever believes in Him, may not perish, but have eternal life." (NIV)

Yup! It's a free will choice!

Vicky
10-28-08, - 12:53 AM
There was just ons Scriptural reference that I wished to share with persons who insist on travelling this downward spiral to an early grave with this gay marriage conversation and that is John 3:16 which reads: "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only son (JESUS) that whoever believes in Him, may not perish, but have eternal life." (NIV)
Yup! It's a free will choice!
Sorry read your Bible again Adam is the son of God the Creator..

Luke 3:38 (King James Version)
38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Jesus refers to himself as "the son of man"...

Or is there some kind of mistake in the Bible

laacmc
10-28-08, - 01:00 AM
There was just ons Scriptural reference that I wished to share with persons who insist on travelling this downward spiral to an early grave with this gay marriage conversation and that is John 3:16 which reads: "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only son (JESUS) that whoever believes in Him, may not perish, but have eternal life." (NIV)
Yup! It's a free will choice!


Jesus loves me, this I KNOW

Lady Russell
10-28-08, - 03:32 AM
Jesus loves me, this I KNOW


Yes! Jesus loves you. And has made a way for you to to be made whole, healed and in right standing with Him. I pray that you will be sent witnesses who are able to communicate His love to you, in terms that you fully understand and explain what is required of you to experience the fullness of that which He has appropriated for your Salvation. God Bless you!

adidasboi987
10-28-08, - 08:28 AM
There was just ons Scriptural reference that I wished to share with persons who insist on travelling this downward spiral to an early grave with this gay marriage conversation and that is John 3:16 which reads: "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only son (JESUS) that whoever believes in Him, may not perish, but have eternal life." (NIV)
Yup! It's a free will choice!
how you figure that has any relevance to this conversation is beyond me... but so says the woman who also thought (claimed) that the PLP won the most recent elections... carry on in your delusions and stupidity... your kind roam free in the Bahamas...

d1973
10-28-08, - 08:42 AM
in dat case, SMA :D
:bouncy::bouncy:

no i ga KYA... kic ya azz... da outhouse een good enough fa you.. you go sit unda da house...:bouncy::bouncy:

d1973
10-28-08, - 08:52 AM
Just trying to show both sides marriage is only a word if the rights are equal.
Oh you did not respond the the slavery thing what happened the slavery in the Bible looked the same now??

man cause i aine wan argue.. slavery (even though the word used in the Bible is slavery) was what we today discribed as indentured servants...people were slaves because they owed debts or for financial settlements... all of your scriptures allude to that.. and that is also why in deuteronmy during the jubilee period "slaves" were released from their debts...

not with colonial slavery.. where slaves were viewed as property and not humans

we all have our view of the Bible and can anything to support or distort our view...that is why I dont argue about the Bible.. you can beleive what you want and I will beleive what I want... we can agree to disagree....

generalcrazy
10-28-08, - 11:47 AM
no i ga KYA... kic ya azz... da outhouse een good enough fa you.. you go sit unda da house...:bouncy::bouncy:
you aint redy :escape:
:bouncy::bouncy:

d1973
10-28-08, - 11:50 AM
you aint redy :escape:
:bouncy::bouncy:

you keep messing with me i ga send you ta glory.. you aine ga need no path....:D

na behave taday and take ya medication na ok general :cutie::cutie::cutie:

fasttract
10-28-08, - 11:57 AM
OOOoh the secrets out and the policy may soon be challanged
O ye who keep trying to say RAB is defunct
loose lips sink ships. All in good time all in good time.


vicky,you got that right,
loose lip do sink ship.

truth_hurts12
10-29-08, - 03:39 AM
how you figure that has any relevance to this conversation is beyond me... but so says the woman who also thought (claimed) that the PLP won the most recent elections... carry on in your delusions and stupidity... your kind roam free in the Bahamas...
Perhaps before we comment on the “how” of the subject of this thread, we should take time to reflect on just “why” individuals may enter into a marriage, gay or straight, in the first place.

Many of you may deny these facts, but some of you are uniquely aware of the 'delusional gay lifestyle' that many young and mature gays engage in here in the Bahamas. Firstly, most gays do not even know the meaning of 'intimacy and fidelity', which are two extremely important aspects of a healthy relationship. In fact, a young gay man once told me that an older gay, who was in a relationship with a “life partner”, once said to him, “all gays cheat”, and that he and his partner only remained in their “relationship” for economic reasons. Unfortunately, the young and impressionable gay man took this as “gospel truth”. IMHO, too bad he was not savvy enough to realise that all the mature gay man wanted was to justify any possible future sexual liaisons between them.

In fact, for most gays, 'sex' is the centre of their lifestyle, whether or not they are in a monogamous relationship. Some have multiple partners numbering into the hundreds across their lifespan. In fact, it’s “a dangerous game” of lies and deceit that some gays play, especially those who are suppose to be in a serious relationship. Some would have several 'f**k buddies' purely for sexual affairs, while maintaining the appearance of a wholesome and loving relationship with their lover. Moreover, many gays are simply 'relationship junkies', as the average span of a gay relationship is probably one to six months. By this time the lust would have worn off and it’s off to the next relationship.

Then there is the glamour of the gay night club, which, unfortunately, is believed by many young gays to be the only place in our 'homophobic society' where they can congregate and “be themselves”. The lure of these establishments to many young gay club goers, many of whom are suffer from “low-self esteem”, is phenomenal. For these individuals, the club becomes their life. They work or go to school during the week, but "live” for an evening at the gay club on the weekends. Regrettably, as alcohol lowers one’s inhabitation's, after a night of drinking and dancing at the club, some gays then seek out a sexual partner to “release” the negative feelings that they were harbouring all week. This can be a vicious cycle that too many young gays get caught up in. Of course, it is no surprise that too many gay club goers who engages in these practises end up contracting a sexually transmitted infections and/or worst, HIV/AIDS.

Lastly, there is the attraction of the internet, which for many is a means of escape from reality. Of course, the flip side to this fantasy world they live in is just as the internet has ushered in the electronic age of socialisation, along with it come the psychopath, or internet predator (See the thread, Internet Predators Who Target Adults). On gay websites, such as Black Gay Chat and Adam-4-Adam, gays often meet sexual partners anonymously for a one-time sexual encounter, which is extremely risqué behaviour. Those gays who are lonely and/or suffering from low self-esteem are the most vulnerable. The predator is a master of stirring anxiety and discontent, and portrays himself as the mythical, “Mr. Right”.

"Did he help you understand how bad your current relationship is/was? Did he say he knows you as someone so much more than your partner? Did he tell you he liked who you were inside even if you consider yourself too fat or ill? Did he say both of you could help and support each other emotionally? Did he make you feel more wanted than you have been in years?"

"People already have dissociative states when online and feel "melded" to their computers. They want the fantasy or at least the escape from everyday pain they aren't getting. These “pick-up” websites give gays freedom to be "anyone they want them to be. The internet can be great but relationships are for real life!!!" :hammer:

THINK ABOUT IT!!!

livingupnorth
10-29-08, - 03:53 AM
Perhaps before we comment on the “how” of the subject of this thread, we should take time to reflect on just “why” individuals may enter into a marriage, gay or straight, in the first place.
Many of you may deny the facts, but some should be uniquely aware of the delusional "gay" lifestyle that many young and mature gays experience here in the Bahamas. Firstly, most gays do not even know the meaning of “intimacy” and “fidelity”, which are extremely important in a healthy relationship. In fact, a young gay man once told me that an older gay, who was in a relationship with a “life partner”, said to him, “all gays cheat”, and that he and his partner only remained in a “relationship” for economic reasons. Unfortunately, the young and impressionable gay man took this as “gospel truth”. Too bad he was not savvy enough to realise that all the mature gay man wanted was an “easy lay”, and would say whatever was necessary to “sleep” with the young man.
In fact, for most gays, “sex” is the centre of the “lifestyle”, whether in or out a relationship. Many have multiple partners numbering into the hundreds across their lifespan. In fact, it’s “a dangerous game” of lies and deceit that many gays engage in, especially when in a “relationship”. They would often have several “f**k buddies” purely for sexual affairs, while maintaining the appearance of a whole some and loving relationship with their lover. Moreover, many gays are simply “relationship junkies”, as the average span of a "gay relationship" is probably one to six months. By this time the lust would have worn off and it’s off to the next “relationship”, centred on “sex”.
Then there is the glamour of the “gay” club, which, unfortunately, is believed by many gays to be the only place in our homophobic society where they can congregate and “be themselves”. The lure of these establishments to many young gay club goers, most of whom are suffering from “low-self esteem”, is phenomenal. For many, the club becomes their “life”. They work or go to school during the week, but “live” for the gay club on the weekends. Regrettably, alcohol lowers one’s inhabitation's and after a night of drinking and dancing at the club, many gays then seek out a sexual partner to “release” the negative feelings that they were harbouring for the week. This can be a vicious cycle that many young gays get caught up in. Of course, it is no surprise that many gay club goers end up contracting a Sexually Transmitted Infections or worst, HIV/AIDS.
Lastly, there is the internet, which for many is a means of escape from reality. Of course, the flip side is just as the internet has ushered in the electronic age of socialisation, along with it come the psychopath, or internet predator (See the thread, Internet Predators Who Target Adults). On websites, such as Black Gay Chat and Adam 4 Adam, gays often meet sexual partners unanimously for a one time sexual encounter, which is extremely risqué. Those who are lonely and suffering from low self-esteem are the most vulnerable. The predator is a master of stirring anxiety and discontent, and portrays himself as the mythical, “Mr. Right”.
Did he help you understand how bad your current relationship is/was? Did he say he knows you as someone so much more than your partner? Did he tell you he liked who you were inside even if you consider yourself fat or ill? Did he say both of you could help and support each other emotionally? Did he make you feel more wanted than you have been in years?
People already have dissociative states when online and feel "melded" to their computers. They want the fantasy or at least the escape from everyday pain they aren't getting. These “pick-up” sites give gays freedom to be "anyone they want them to be." The internet can be great but relationships are for real life!!! :hammer:

very lengthy misinformed prejudicial post...... but mostly fallacy

adidasboi987
10-29-08, - 04:04 AM
[B]Perhaps before we comment on the “how” of the subject of this thread, we should take time to reflect on just “why” individuals may enter into a marriage, gay or straight, in the first place.

thanks for sharing and while appreciated it STILL is as irrelevant as is it was when you FIRST posted that drivel on this site...

There is a certain heterogeneity to any grouping of people..whether they be gay straight black or white... while your points may be valid they are by far NOT a representation of EVERY gay person who decides to have relations with other gay people...

Your analysis may just be limited to YOUR interactions with gay people...perhaps???... but that's ONLY a reflection of you and the people you associate with...

While your post may have been lengthy (surprise surprise)... it certainly LACKED....it added nothing to the conversation but added stereotypes and misconceptions to muddy the waters, diverting from what this thread REALLY is about...

HONESTY, FIDELITY, COMPASSION are just equally human traits as DECEIT and DISHONESTY.. they are not mutually exclusive to homosexual relationships... while I pity the fact that your dealings have not been the best for you..and perhaps you need a forum to "vent"... mis-truths should be avoided when labeling an entire community...