thanks for sharing and while appreciated it STILL is as irrelevant as is it was when you FIRST posted that drivel on this site...
There is a certain heterogeneity to any grouping of people..whether they be gay straight black or white... while your points may be valid they are by far NOT a representation of EVERY gay person who decides to have relations with other gay people...
Your analysis may just be limited to YOUR interactions with gay people...perhaps???... but that's ONLY a reflection of you and the people you associate with...
While your post may have been lengthy (surprise surprise)... it certainly LACKED....it added nothing to the conversation but added stereotypes and misconceptions to muddy the waters, diverting from what this thread REALLY is about...
HONESTY, FIDELITY, COMPASSION are just equally human traits as DECEIT and DISHONESTY.. they are not mutually exclusive to homosexual relationships... while I pity the fact that your dealings have not been the best for you..and perhaps you need a forum to "vent"... mis-truths should be avoided when labeling an entire community...
I applaud you for stating everything that has been roaring in my head since I read that post. As an American lesbian, I can only say how "OFF" that post was and the feeling of urgency to scream out how wrong she/he is!
Everyone has their views by what they are living but I can tell you...hers/his is NOT that of the big picture of homosexuality.
PS...I'm aware of the "Clubs" she/he speaks of...we have one here in Youngstown...we (as a COUPLE) go to dance and have drinks with other couples....we call them FRIENDS.
*sigh*....it's just not like that. Why do I always feel a need to defend my sexuality? I really want to start questioning heterosexuality. Grrrrrrrrr. :realmad:

thanks for sharing and while appreciated it STILL is as irrelevant as is it was when you FIRST posted that drivel on this site...
There is a certain heterogeneity to any grouping of people..whether they be gay straight black or white... while your points may be valid they are by far NOT a representation of EVERY gay person who decides to have relations with other gay people...
Your analysis may just be limited to YOUR interactions with gay people...perhaps???... but that's ONLY a reflection of you and the people you associate with...
While your post may have been lengthy (surprise surprise)... it certainly LACKED....it added nothing to the conversation but added stereotypes and misconceptions to muddy the waters, diverting from what this thread REALLY is about...
HONESTY, FIDELITY, COMPASSION are just equally human traits as DECEIT and DISHONESTY.. they are not mutually exclusive to homosexual relationships... while I pity the fact that your dealings have not been the best for you..and perhaps you need a forum to "vent"... mis-truths should be avoided when labeling an entire community...
Adidasboi, you speak of "HONESTY, FIDELITY, COMPASSION" as if you understood these qualities intimately, do you??? "Mis-truths" you say??? Please stop with your sanctimonious rhetoric. As you well know, I am NOT labelling all gays, but speaking to those who engage in these self-destructive behaviours that I have described in my post. You as a self-proclaimed gay youth advocate should speak the TRUTH rather than come on this forum and attempt to present a pristine picture of what for many is a 'delusional gay lifestyle'. :taped:

By your own admission on another thread, you said that you had witnessed the automobile accident resulting in the deaths of two young gay women, after they were said to be coming from an “All You Can Drink” alcohol promotion, which started earlier on a Beach in Coral Harbour and ended with an after party at a gay club downtown several weeks ago.

Reliable sources have revealed that following the funeral of one victim, some of her friends were said to have organised another “All You Can Drink” event as a tribute to the victims, and were going to charge $20 per person; IT APPEARS THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T GET IT!!! Fortunately, it was said that this event was later cancelled. :taped2:

Now returning to the topic of internet relationships and meeting strangers via the internet, IMHO, you should be at the forefront in educating young gays on the dangers of internet “hook-ups”. Do you know how many young gay men each year either contract a sexually transmitted disease, or worst, HIV/AIDS, are raped, or killed during an internet “hook up” with a psychopath? I strongly suggest that you join me in encouraging GLBT youth who may be suffering from an “Internet addition” and/or, a “sex addiction”, or even having issues about their sexual orientation and/or gender identity, and/or simply living a 'delusional gay lifestyle', before they SELF-DESTRUCT, PLEASE, seek help immediately, contact Dr. Sandra Dean-Patterson at the Crisis Centre, (242) 328-0922, and/or Dr. Timothy Barrette at The Community Counselling and Assessment Centre, (242) 323-3293. :hammer::hammer::hammer:

Adidasboi, you speak of "HONESTY, FIDELITY, COMPASSION" as if you understood these qualities intimately. DO YOU??? "Mis-truths" you say??? How dare you, please stop with your sanctimonious bullsh*t!!! As YOU well know, I am NOT labelling all gays, but speaking to a goodly majority of those of YOU, who engage in the self-destructive behaviours that I have described in my post. You as a self-proclaim young gay advocate should speak the TRUTH rather than come on this forum and present a pristine outlook of the “delusional “gay” lifestyle" here in New Providence. And, unlike the comments you had made to another member on this thread, I am appealing to YOU to stop “carrying on in your delusions and stupidity”. :realmad:
By your own admission on another thread, you said that you had witnessed the automobile accident resulting in the deaths of two young gay women, after they were said to be coming from an “All You Can Drink” alcohol promotion, which started earlier on a Beach in Coral Harbour and ended with an after party at a gay club downtown several weeks ago. Did you ever STOP and THINK that perhaps you could have being one of those victims.
Then, let the truth be told, immediately following the funeral of a victim, some of her friends were said to be organising another “All You Can Drink” event as a tribute to the victims, and was to charge $20 per person; IT APPEARS THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T GET IT!!! Fortunately, it was later said that the event was cancelled. :taped2:
Now returning to the topic of internet relationships and meeting strange men via the internet, YOU, of all people should be at the forefront in educating young gays on the dangers of internet “hook-ups”. Do you know how many young gay men each year contracts either a Sexually Transmitted Disease, or even worst, HIV/AIDS, are raped, or even killed after an internet “hook up” with a psychopath? I strongly suggest that you encourage young gays who may be suffering from an “Internet Addition” and or, a “Sex Addiction”, or even having issues about their Sexual Orientation and/or Gender Identity, or simply living, what I have described here as, a “Delusional “GAY” Lifestyle”, before you SELF-DESTRUCT, PLEASE, seek help immediately, contact Dr. Sandra Dean-Patterson at the Crisis Centre, (242) 328-0922, and/or Dr. Timothy Barrette at The Community Counselling and Assessment Centre, (242) 3233293. :hammer::hammer::hammer:


:jawdroop: What am I reading? You two are the best of friends. Surely you can take this conversation elsewhere Truthhurts.

:jawdroop: What am I reading? You two are the best of friends. Surely you can take this conversation elsewhere Truthhurts.
My response had little if anything to do with him personally... him taking it as such really doesn't concern me...

so he wants to divert the thread to go off on a useless tangent to prove a point and vent HIS frustrations.... FINE... but this thread means more than that... and goes far beyond HIS hurt feelings... ah well such is life...

EVERYBODY stand up and give him the round of applause that he so desperately desires...:bouncy:

I applaud you for stating everything that has been roaring in my head since I read that post. As an American lesbian, I can only say how "OFF" that post was and the feeling of urgency to scream out how wrong she/he is!
Everyone has their views by what they are living but I can tell you...hers/his is NOT that of the big picture of homosexuality.
PS...I'm aware of the "Clubs" she/he speaks of...we have one here in Youngstown...we (as a COUPLE) go to dance and have drinks with other couples....we call them FRIENDS.
*sigh*....it's just not like that. Why do I always feel a need to defend my sexuality? I really want to start questioning heterosexuality. Grrrrrrrrr. :realmad:
You may live in the U.S., but I reside here in the Bahamas, which, IMHO, is an extremely homophobic society. Further, many of the behaviours which I have described, and, regrettably, too many of our young gays engage in, are a result of or directly related to the mental health of our nation. In fact, the gay community, including those young and easily impressionable gays, are a microcosm of the Bahamian Society. So certainly, one cannot begin to “scrutinise” what I have described as a 'delusional gay lifestyle' without investigating the societal antecedents which may have contributed to these behaviours.

Moreover, let me state unequivocally, I am not attempting to label the entire gay community here, as I am acquainted with gays, both young and old, who have been in committed relationships for years, and, IMHO, these relationships are just as healthy, in terms of HONESTY, FIDELITY, MUTUAL RESPECT, and LOVE, as any healthy heterosexual relationship in our society. On the other hand, I maintain that the issues I have raised in my post are indeed “real”, and, unfortunately, perhaps because of our homophobia, we in the Bahamas tend not to want to tackle these issues, but rather pretend normal, or act if they do not exist.

To enlighten you further, even our Ministry of Education’s curriculum for sex education in the public schools, which we call “Family Life”, does not mention or discuss the issues of homosexual orientation and/or gender identity. These subjects are “taboo” in our society. Moreover, unfortunately, there is NOT one voluntary organisation here in the Bahamas that advocates for GLBT Youth, or help with public education and/or information. In fact, the recently defunct Rainbow Alliance (RAB), which, in the past had acted as an advocacy group for the Bahamian GLBT (Gay, Lesbian, Bi-sexual & Transgender) Community, once totally withdrew their support for an “emancipated” transgender minor who was brutally raped after they learnt that she had not quite reached her eighteenth birthday. IMHO, they were probably afraid of being branded as 'child molesters' and/or contributing to the delinquency of a minor by our homophobic authorities.

Many of the young gays who engage in this self-destructive 'delusional gay lifestyle' either come from dysfunctional families and/or were rejected by their families after revealing their sexual orientation. In fact, one of the teens killed in the automobile accident that I mentioned in the post, was said to have been estranged from her family. Also, the young gay who was raped had also been kicked out of her home and was literally living on the streets. IMHO, having to live in a homophobic society without any appropriate support networks, coupled with feelings of rejection, and dejection, many of our young gays develop a sense of hopelessness, and consequently, resort to self-loathing and/or self-destructive behaviour. :hammer::hammer::hammer:

very lengthy misinformed prejudicial post...... but mostly fallacy
I beg to differ, what I believe I have described here is "reality" for too many gays,especially many of our GLBT Youth. Moreover, we in the gay community tend not to want to talk about issues that may cast a negative view of the "gay lifestyle". But, if we expect to be taken seriously, we must be able to face up to even the most undesirable issues within our community. :taped2:

On this thread, we may be advocating for the right of gays to marry, which, IMHO, is a mute point. It is a basic "human right" and our constitution alludes to guarantees of these rights. And, IMHO, in time, the Privy Counsel will rule in our favour whenever the case is brought before it. But, IMHO, we need to also be discussing what constitutes healthy intimate relationships that may lend itself to the partners seeking to enter into the bonds of marriage. Otherwise, the gay community will end up just like the heterosexual community with a high divorce rate, or partners in unhappy and discontented marriages. :hammer::hammer::hammer:

My response had little if anything to do with him personally... him taking it as such really doesn't concern me...
"...while I pity the fact that your dealings have not been the best for you..and perhaps you need a forum to "vent"... mis-truths should be avoided when labeling an entire community..."

The quoted passages above are your words, and IMHO, it is you who have taken what I had said in 'sincerity and truth' as something personal. Also, as Judge Daisy would say, "please take your pointing finger" and point to where in my post that I referred to the "entire gay community" or used the term "all gays"... And as far as your accusations of "mis-truths", I will simply "let your conscious be your guide". :taped2:


so he wants to divert the thread to go off on a useless tangent to prove a point and vent HIS frustrations.... FINE... but this thread means more than that... and goes far beyond HIS hurt feelings... ah well such is life...
EVERYBODY stand up and give him the round of applause that he so desperately desires...
You know all too well that my post was NO "useless tangent"; on the contrary, it is as relevant a topic to the gay community here in New Providence today as any other topic on BI concerning gays in the Bahamas. And IMHO, it has a lot of relevance to gay marriages... are we simply going to have gay marriages to make a hypocrisy of ourselves???!!!:hammer:

:jawdroop: What am I reading? You two are the best of friends. Surely you can take this conversation elsewhere Truthhurts.
Because we are "friends", and I say unashamedly, I have tremendous admiration and respect for Adidasboi, :heartbeat, this does not mean we must always agree on every topic... :footmouth

Because we are "friends", this does not mean we must always agree on every topic... :footmouth


Thank you for the many informative posts you made on this thread. Your insightful writing was an eye-opener.

May God Bless and keep your family!

I've got a headache and it's in bold.

Y Moreover, unfortunately, there is NOT one voluntary organisation here in the Bahamas that advocates for young gays, or help with public education and/or information. In fact, the recently defunct Rain Bow Alliance (RAB), which, in the past, had acted as an advocacy group for the Bahamian GLBT (Gay, Lesbian, Bi-sexual & Transgender) Community, once totally withdrew their support for an “emancipated” transgender minor who was brutally raped because she had not quite reached her eighteenth birthday. IMHO, they were afraid of being branded as “child molesters” and/or contributing to the delinquency of a minor by homophobic authorities.


Excuss me You talking about RAB again???


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Hmmmmm! What an interesting turn!