Gee, while we are at it, why not talk about Cuba and its attrocities to the cuban people, if we lived there we would get executed by the government just for using a message board like this :-)
Is that what you were told. Do you think cubans are leaving because of some mistreatment.
Do you know that most cubans are black.
Have you noticed that the cubans leaving cuba are the white/whitish ones.
Why you ask.
Cuba practices communism (loosely). Which means that all are equal.
The ones who are leaving decided. Why should i stay here and be equal when i can go right over to Miami and be better and richer than the others just because of the color of my skin. This is the unspoken reason for the white cuban exodus. Notice how freely a cuban is given citizenship while the hatians are rounded up like animals.
Open your eyes. There is alot more going on than you or I understand.

Is that what you were told. Do you think cubans are leaving because of some mistreatment.
Do you know that most cubans are black.
Have you noticed that the cubans leaving cuba are the white/whitish ones.
Why you ask.
Cuba practices communism (loosely). Which means that all are equal.
The ones who are leaving decided. Why should i stay here and be equal when i can go right over to Miami and be better and richer than the others just because of the color of my skin. .
What an outrageous statement! If we were to stick to your theory, we might say that, that is because the white ones are smarter. That would be equally outrageous . Cubans of all colors are escaping Cuba.


This is the unspoken reason for the white cuban exodus. Notice how freely a cuban is given citizenship while the hatians are rounded up like animals. .

That is because of the large numbers of Cubans (black and white) already in the US. They have formed a lobby to change the immigration laws, and have changed them. They have pulled together to become a force. While the Haitian groups just keep on whining.

Open your eyes. There is alot more going on than you or I understand.
Oh! No! The "plot" theory! The erroneous "plot" that whites and Jews are trying to take over the world in some secret plan, forged in some smoke filled dark back room, sometime between the year, 1 AD until now! :voodoo: :rolleyes:

Not to get off the point, but this situation in Iraq would have never been an issue if the US did not feel the need to flex it's military muscle beyond Afghanistan.

What the United States really needs to do is begin following the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence, which so many countries in the Far East have done. The US claims to want global peace, but their continued military actions show otherwise. A reference to the Five Principles is made in one of my blogs (click here to view (http://www.yorick.org/yorick.org/b2evolution/blogs/blog_a.php?p=336&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1)) which highlights the mutual agreement signed by Bahamian Prime Minister Perry Christie and Chinese President Hu Jintao. (The signed agreement is based upon these principles)

What are the Five Principles? And how they came into being?

The Five Principles are: mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity, mutual non-aggression, non-interference in each other's internal affairs, EQUALITY and mutual benefit, and peaceful coexistence.

They were first set forth by Premier Zhou Enlai in his talk to the Indian delegation at the start of the negotiations that took place in Beijing from December 1953 to April 1954 between representatives of the Chinese and Indian governments on relations between the two countries in Tibet.

Later, the Five Principles were formally written into the preface to the "Agreement Between the People's Republic of China and the Republic of India on Trade and Intercourse Between the Tibet Region of China and India".

Since June 1954, when the Five Principles were included in the joint communique issued by Premier Zhou Enlai and Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, they have been adopted in many other international documents and have become widely accepted as norms for relations between countries.

(Click here to read more about The Five Principles (http://www.yorick.org/yorick.org/b2evolution/blogs/blog_a.php?&m=20040817))
It seems ironic to me that China, after slaughtering Tebet, would come up with the Five Principles, after having violated all of them in Tebet and on its people - and continue to do so.

I have said it before and I will say it again. If you don't like the US being the top dog then wait until China is. You have not seen anything yet when it comes to oppression. I don't trust the Chinese and I am worried about us getting to close to them. They are richer, smarter, and more cunning than we are. Metaphorically speaking, "They will eat us for breakfast!" (And take that from a guy who has been in the Far East.)

they were executed only a few months back from posting on an online forum against the government. My eyes are more open that yours my friend.
An american, Sherman Austin was sentenced to one year in prison, three years probation and can't touch a computer for the rest of his life for the same thing last year- August 4 2003- in the land of the free!
Arabs and others are being arrested everyday and being held without charge or reason for arrest and being severly tortured. Houses are being bombed and the only explanation for their bombing is that the houses were being used by terrorist. So any house you accidentally or maliciously bomb you can just say it was being used by terrorist and its cool.
Rory I said all this to say Those who you think are the good guys are doing the exact same thing as the bad guys. So how do you judge who is who.

"In order to rally people, governments need enemies. They want us to be afraid, to hate, so we will rally behind them."
– Thich Nhat Hanh, Vietnamese Buddhist monk

"In order to rally people, governments need enemies. They want us to be afraid, to hate, so we will rally behind them."
– Thich Nhat Hanh, Vietnamese Buddhist monk


not afraid...just stupid!!

An american, Sherman Austin was sentenced to one year in prison, three years probation and can't touch a computer for the rest of his life for the same thing last year- August 4 2003- in the land of the free!
Arabs and others are being arrested everyday and being held without charge or reason for arrest and being severly tortured. Houses are being bombed and the only explanation for their bombing is that the houses were being used by terrorist. So any house you accidentally or maliciously bomb you can just say it was being used by terrorist and its cool.
Rory I said all this to say Those who you think are the good guys are doing the exact same thing as the bad guys. So how do you judge who is who.


You are right, stick to what you are saying.
Governments is an accepted form of terrorism and the most dangerous. Government is the seat of mafias organizations (it is not a mafia organization but it is dominated by mafia organizations) and the mafia minds are everywhere fighting for this hot seat because this seat gives them the license and OK to kill and express their hate and anger in an organize, accepted, legal and official way, so this seat of government is important to mafias success.

This group of mafia-terrorist controls the towns, they control the law books, the bank books and the religious books these books are the core to the minds and the sigh of human beings, it is this pattern that makes people see how they see, it is this pattern that makes people who they are, stupid robots. Do you know that 70% of all human population are stupid people(average and below average)? No wonder they are trying to replace us with machines!

50% of all human beings are below average (do not think for themselves) and 20% more are average, (anything can change their minds). It is always this population of human being that governments is appealing too. it is this population of humanbeings where the organization of government get their support and that is why governments can do things and get away. This is another reason why governments can stoke the people into wars. This is another reason why they can bomb homes and say there were terrorist there. Yah, right, we are all terrorist, why not just kill us all? Why do it slowly, slowly, but surely. The sooner the better.

As long as the organization of governments are appointed and guarded by the averages no one and nothing is safe.
Who are these people we call government any way?
George Bush knows himself very well, he says it very well. Governments are bands of tugs and assassin attempting to replace another band of tugs and assassins with another band of tugs and assassin, if you ever wonder where we get these stupid people front hat we call government, this includes George Bush and the rest. Well, then, they get there on the tickets of stupid people for stupid reasons.


Those people who are talking to you just ask them one question, who have killed more people than governments? Just name one group, only one.

Now remember I am talking about 70% of the population and 70% of the governments world wide including in the US and Bahamas. My argument never reflect s100% of anything that I am talking about so there is always room for disagreement even though most people miss the point of my post or go running on with something that is not my point, but that's ok, they can still disagree on the points that is not my point, that is the way most human beings are anyway average and below.

Now check this out:

The United States and Britain are also harboring people Russia considers to be Chechen terrorists linked to rebel commander Aslan Maskhadov, whom it blames for the Beslan strike. Maskhadov has denied responsibility. Britain has granted asylum to Akhmad Zakayev, and the United States has given the same status to Ilyas Akhmadov. Both men were top officials in Maskhadov's government.

"Those who provide shelter to terrorists are directly responsible for the tragedy of the Chechen people," Lavrov said.

You are 110% right. If more people opened their eyes like you the earth would become heaven.

13 peopel were killed and 61 wounded by rockets fired from two US helicopters on Haifa Street in central Baghdad. They had fired into a crowd milling around a burning Bradley fighting vehicle that had been hit by a rocket or bomb hours before.

"The helicopter fired on the Bradley to destroy it after it had been hit earlier and it was on fire," said Major Phil Smith of the 1st Cavalry Division. "It was for the safety of the people around it."

The people are safe now, they are dead.

so both presidential candidates agree Sadaam was a threat and agreed on going to war with Iraq. Only difference is Kerry said he would have did it different, well ofcourse, if anyone knew how it would have turned out, they would have did it different, What ifs dont exist in the real world.

so which administration do you think is better? At least Bush has experience, Kerry is just too 'light' and not presidential material. If there was another candidate he would probably win !!

Bush :sarcastic Experience :sarcastic the only ting this nugga has is :footmouth disease. and yes I called him a nugga (mental)

It makes a lot of sense actually Rory. He's saying you're stupid, and quite frankly after reading more than just a few of your responses I'm inclined to disagree. You see, I disagree, because I believe that you believe you know exactly what you're talking about because you have not experienced it first hand.

Son, you cannot talk to anybody and "see" how it is, at best you can only hear about it.

"Talk to some Iraqiis and you will see it is how it was, Sadaam ran Iraq with an Iron Thumb, always on the trigger. The country was in pieces, only himself and certain others had it ok, the rest were starving and poor, no electricity, and much more."

Talk to Iraqis? My friend, why don't you talk to some Americans AND HEAR HOW IT IS in their country? The open statement you made above is pure genius, because it can also be argued that Mr. Bush is doing the exact process in the country whose presidency he hijacked. See, you've never had to use foodstamps have you? Ever had your health premiums raised through the roof?...

Neither has Bush or Cheney, and this is why the Bush/Cheney administration has got to go. They practice a subtle brand of ritual magick to entrance and distract you from your individuality and subjective experiences. It's called hypnotism. And my friend they've got you hook line and sinker with the nonsense you spoutin. If you'd like to challenge my knowledge on the practice of ritual magick and the modes and methods employed by diverse governments, go ahead.
But first, I'd like YOUR home address so that I may invade your house even though you haven't attacked me, because you work in the security trade and could very well have weapons that could cause considerable harm to children. Oh, Nevermind the police, they're useless to me just like the United Nations, and if you or anyone representing you shoot me or cause me bodily harm Rory, that will only prove me right and believe me, I will bomb your descendants to Kingdom Come. Man, Woman, Child and Pets alike.

And take me seriously ROORy, because you tryed to keell my dadDy so the 'Merican peepol want yew, since I'm two Inkomp...inkcomp (hold on let Cheney, Ashcroft and Tenet spell it for me) incompetent to get Bin Laidn.

Now, onto more serious things: I put to you the very last question asked in the second presidential debate, please respond.

"Trollls do not deserve a response, especially to an unintelligent and idiotic post like that. Try your moveon.org conspirousy theory web forums, son."

And this...coming from a man who can neither spell "trolls" nor "conspiracy."
Thank you for reiterating your ignorance of the matters at hand and (as Yorick put it) your counter-productivity by replying to a valid question with an insult based on toilet tissue intuition. I'd bet my life that that's not the first time you made an ASsumption.

Question to all who read on: Based on a law of averages, who in all probablity, is more likely AND able to name conspiracy theorists web forums?

Take your time now Rory, it's called rhetoric. Was used by the likes of Martin Luther King Jr. Here's another one...

Based on a law of averages, who in all probablity, is more able to show more prowess at war? A Vietnam Veteran or a J. R. Ewing wannabe who has never failed to seldom succeed?

Bush has said publicly that he would not change a thing and that he has not made any mistakes. Based on what I have seen of the debates Bush is a puppet. He is obviosly in charge in name only. There is even speculation that he was wired for the debates to receive help from his handlers. Michael Savage, who I listen to on satellite radio, has said that America is decadent, that American men are p----es, and that the extremist of the muslim world would rather die that import America's decadence.It is a culture war at its root. The Bahmas has also tried to control what we can see on tv, like BET.The radical muslims are fighting against 10,000 bet's.The Bahamas is also in a state of decline based on what I have been told by older people. Oue education system is a joke. Bahamian men are weak and indulgent. All we want to do is have a good time and party.No principles as a country or people.Real men need to step up and take this country back. We need leaders. Anyone know any?

"Trollls do not deserve a response, especially to an unintelligent and idiotic post like that. Try your moveon.org conspirousy theory web forums, son."

And this...coming from a man who can neither spell "trolls" nor "conspiracy."
Thank you for reiterating your ignorance of the matters at hand and (as Yorick put it) your counter-productivity by replying to a valid question with an insult based on toilet tissue intuition. I'd bet my life that that's not the first time you made an ASsumption.

Question to all who read on: Based on a law of averages, who in all probablity, is more likely AND able to name conspiracy theorists web forums?

Take your time now Rory, it's called rhetoric. Was used by the likes of Martin Luther King Jr. Here's another one...


Based on a law of averages, who in all probablity, is more able to show more prowess at war? A Vietnam Veteran or a J. R. Ewing wannabe who has never failed to seldom succeed?


If you want to talk to Rory just respond to someone else and ignore his respond, I never read what he writes he just doesn't make any sense to me. I assure you that this way is the best way to talk to him, any other way is to waste your time.

Sorry about the flag, my father said I would start trouble with the Iraqi flag, but I was in a rush to get started and I was working on this new one, hope this stops the wondering, I am right here.
My freedom fight does not mean against the US but rather what it means is a stand for peace, love and unity and against any thing or any one that interferes with this. Regardless to whether the terrorist is civilian, military, authorities, diplomats, government officials, extremist, fundamentalist, religionist, barbarians, savages or those who prey on the poor to salvage the little they have. I fight for freedom and to maintain freedom.

I am behind on this thread nice to see an open hearted person. Where do you fight????