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Bahamas News
02-17-05, - 01:01 PM
Haitian Ambassador Appeals For Understanding On Illegal Immigration Issue
By C. E. Huggins
The Bahama Journal


Haitian Ambassador Mr. Louis Joseph says the majority of the Haitians, like those above who are picked up in Bahamian waters come from an isolated part of the country on the north west coast.

With the illegal immigration issue raging in The Bahamas, Haiti’s Ambassador to the country Louis H. Joseph believes that there is a general lack of understanding as it relates to the Haitian plight.

“We need better understanding and knowledge,” he told The Bahama Journal.

Mr. Joseph’s comments came as government officials continued to react to a growing public cry for something to be done swiftly about the dilemma.

The matter was also raised again in the House of Assembly on Wednesday, with two other members – MP for Elizabeth Malcolm Adderley and South Abaco MP Robert Sweeting – pointing to the serious impact illegal immigrants are having on Bahamian communities.

While immigration officials said on Tuesday that they have continued raids in recent days and have picked up over 400 people in the last two weeks, Mr. Adderley believes this is a knee-jerk approach and suggested instead that the government come up with a national strategy to tackle the problem.

“It is my view that this problem will not be solved by a programme of snatching and arresting illegal immigrants anytime public opinion dictates,” he said. “What we need is a consistent, well planned, well developed, realistic national immigration policy and plan that continues straight through, every week, every month, every year.”

In the interim, Mr. Joseph is promoting education on the historic problems that have led to The Bahamas feeling the ongoing impact of that nation’s struggles.

“Haiti has never been a democracy,” he explained. “Nineteen eighty-six marked a departure from a history of dictatorships and the country is going through a transition. And since 1986 we have had an election in 1990, but we have also had some interruptions, a coup d’etat by the military.”

In fact, going from an absolute and brutal dictatorship built on fear and violence to full blown democracy in the space of two decades is practically unheard of. The Duvalier dictatorship ended in 1986 with the overthrow of the Duvaliers.

Mr. Joseph said that political instability is the major contributor to the struggles being faced in Haiti.

Experts have many times in the past stated the importance of political stability.

In fact, in its recent affirmation of The Bahamas’ ‘A-’ credit rating, Standard and Poor’s credited The Bahamas’ economic strength, in large measure, to its political stability.

Despite Haiti’s instability, however, Mr. Joseph said civil society is thriving and the organizations and practices taken for granted in The Bahamas and other stable democracies are taking root in Haiti.

“Before 1986 it was impossible for the society to have organizations openly challenging the government,” he said. “Today we have organizations that are concerned about human rights and a press that is openly critical of things happening in the society. The press is free.”

He pointed out that one would find people in any military and on any police force that abuses their authority.

“In practically every society you will have some members of the military and the police who will behave badly and abuse human rights,” he said. “But you cannot judge the entire organization by these kinds of examples.”

In acknowledging that Haiti has not had any appreciable economic growth in the past 10 to 15 years, which he said is due to political instability and governance, Mr. Joseph said it was not difficult to see why Haitians or anyone else for that matter, under those conditions would not want to leave to make a better life for themselves and their families wherever they could.

“The majority of the Haitians who are picked up in Bahamian waters come from an isolated part of the country on the north west coast,” he explained. “In June that area went through a drought and that was followed by the flood caused by the hurricane. That area was already suffering before the floods came. Crops were destroyed and people cannot recover in a few months.”

Commenting specifically on the way in which information on illegal immigration has been presented, Mr. Joseph said there is some sensationalizing of the issues.

“The press and people like sensation,” he said. “For instance, the media says there is an influx of Haitians but they do not tell you why or compared to what.”

“I have already mentioned the difficult conditions in northwest Haiti, but you also have the cooperation of The Bahamian and US authorities in Inagua which makes it easier to interdict boats. But are the numbers any higher than they were five years ago? We do not know from the media.”

During the eighties when there was mass migration leading up to and following the end of dictatorship in Haiti, there was mass migration of Haitians into the US. US authorities estimated as many as 100,000 Haitians entered their country with tens of thousands coming into The Bahamas.

The 2000 Census conducted by the Department of Statistics showed there were 21,426 persons who identified themselves to the enumerators as Haitians.

A Department of Statistics executive stated that the department does not inquire about legal status of the persons being enumerated, but agreed that persons who identified themselves as being Haitian were more likely than not to have legal status.

Tafadhali
02-18-05, - 10:06 AM
Understanding and feeling "sorry" for their plight is what got us in this situation right now...where our country is being abused of its resources that its citizens need more. Why dont the Haitians understand that the Bahamas doesnt have the resources to facilitate their steady arrival on our shores.(with the nerve to ram the RBDF boat). Why isnt the Haitian ambassador pleading to his people to stay home because the Bahamas is a small country with a small population or why isnt he out planning food and clothes drives to help his people. Oh no but then you call us " racist and prejudice" against our own African brothers and sisters, if you want Bahamians to protect the economic and political livelihood of our country. The Haitian people have themselves to blame for their present situation, they should look to themselves first, before running off causing harm and strife in another person land. So if you call it insensitive, then you have serious problems, just because I work and can pay my bills or buy food doesnt make me "rich" or stable...its makes me able to survive. I understand alright, this is not North Haiti, this is The Bahamas!

canewry
02-18-05, - 11:35 AM
Understanding and feeling "sorry" for their plight is what got us in this situation right now...where our country is being abused of its resources that its citizens need more. Why dont the Haitians understand that the Bahamas doesnt have the resources to facilitate their steady arrival on our shores.(with the nerve to ram the RBDF boat). Why isnt the Haitian ambassador pleading to his people to stay home because the Bahamas is a small country with a small population or why isnt he out planning food and clothes drives to help his people. Oh no but then you call us " racist and prejudice" against our own African brothers and sisters, if you want Bahamians to protect the economic and political livelihood of our country. The Haitian people have themselves to blame for their present situation, they should look to themselves first, before running off causing harm and strife in another person land. So if you call it insensitive, then you have serious problems, just because I work and can pay my bills or buy food doesnt make me "rich" or stable...its makes me able to survive. I understand alright, this is not North Haiti, this is The Bahamas!

Actually, the current Haitian Ambassor in my opinion is the better Haitian Ambassor, Haiti and The Bahamas have hosted thus far. Definately, for a person who has limited resources and limited alternatives for success, he have contributed tremendously to the exchanging of ideas on how to solve the Haitian immigration problem. Far more than what the U.S. is rendering to us at present.

Although, he is limited on how he actually can stop the migration problem, and in truth and he can do little to stop it. He has offered support to the Bahamian government decisions in regards to it; he has also offered up advice and pertinent information on where these migrants are coming from, and who they are. And he have successfully attended and host seminars on the Haitian plight, explaining to both his countrymen and Bahamian alike what is needed to ensure that Haitians do not come here.

I can remember at one time, he stated publically on a radio talk show, that Haitian should not come to the Bahamas as it is making it harder for the Haitians that are here already. And he also encouraged Haitians living here to send home funds to support the relief effort there.

With that being said what else can he do. One must then ask what are the duties of an Ambassador? and whether this man is actually carrying out his duties. Consequently, you will conclude that he has and is doing his job.

Tafadhali
02-18-05, - 11:53 AM
Talking is the way to help with this country's plight? That's not good enough!Action is the name of the game. Not talking. I dont think its America's problem that Haiti is the way it is. It's Haiti's problem, you can help, but how much helping can you do, if people dont want to help themselves.

canewry
02-18-05, - 03:32 PM
Talking is the way to help with this country's plight? That's not good enough!Action is the name of the game. Not talking. I dont think its America's problem that Haiti is the way it is. It's Haiti's problem, you can help, but how much helping can you do, if people dont want to help themselves.

One needs to study Haiti's history, and follow its down fall, consequently one will see where the country is headed and who all around it will be affected. The Governments of the Caribbean realized that they too will suffer if Haiti collapes more than it is now, that is why they all are rallying their support, becoming its brother keeper, in order to protect themselves in the long run.

Tafadhali
02-18-05, - 04:40 PM
One needs to study Haiti's history, and follow its down fall, consequently one will see where the country is headed and who all around it will be affected. The Governments of the Caribbean realized that they too will suffer if Haiti collapes more than it is now, that is why they all are rallying their support, becoming its brother keeper, in order to protect themselves in the long run.



And weve been their brother's keeper by_________(beside taking on the numerous illegal aliens)

Please forward me its political and economic history, Im a little unknowing in the regard of understanding their plight succintly. But still, arent the coups and dictatorships in Haiti caused by a few power struck and greedy people? Why is it that the other 7 million inhabitants dont or didnt do something to help in their country's growth? Maybe im a little naive or its my democratic spirit that wont allow fear and violence to cripple me. Thanks in advance.