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Lady Russell 06-14-08, - 01:22 AM So you agree you yourself can/could be taught to be attracted to the same sex.
I had penned you a comprehensive response which disappeared once I clicked "Post Reply"
Anyway, I'll re-write it in the morning.
God Bless!
truth_hurts12 06-14-08, - 04:04 AM On the real, and ine wan hear bout no homos are peepal too. WTH a gblqt know about community building, when their lifestyle isa antithesis ofa community?
Yes, homosexuals are people too. They are born into this world just like you...Some of the builders of our modern day Bahamian Community were/are gay:
You have/had gay parliamentarians who have lead you, You probably have had gay teachers who taught you, gay religious ministers who have ministered to you, gay doctors who may have treated you, gay friends who have befriended you, gay family members who may have loved you... :footmouth
In general, what defines a gay person is his or her "sexual orientation". If the individual is sexually active, then the laws of the Bahamas protects his or her "right to privacy". Only sexual acts in pubic are illegal. So how does what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom can be the antithesis of a community? :dgi:
Gays are in every sector of our community, therefore, to make a general statement that their lifestyle is the antithesis of a community is unfounded and lacks any merit. It is ignoramus like you who are the antithesis of a community... Your anti-gay talk is apart of the prejudice that could only destroy our Bahamian community...not build it up...:hammer:
Or are we talkin bout the homosexucal community?
The homosexual community is a small percentage of the greater Bahamian community. When you castigate a small portion this greater community unjustly, then we all suffer...:taped2:
truth_hurts12 06-14-08, - 04:06 AM I had penned you a comprehensive response which disappeared once I clicked "Post Reply"
Anyway, I'll re-write it in the morning.
God Bless!
Divine Intervention, no doubt!!! :angel:
truth_hurts12 06-14-08, - 04:44 AM I listened to a little piece of the show and heard Ms Greene say that If children grow up in a Baptist home that would have some influence on where the children, when they are grown, worship. I agree!!
But when I said that the gays want to adopt children so that they can influence the next generation some said that I was crazy!! If they are allowed to do this they will contaminate the next generation with their warped "chosen" lifestyles!!
Your premise is so flawed, its pathetic!!! :realmad:
Most gays are the product of heterosexual parents, and therefore, have the same family values as heterosexuals. In fact, studies have shown that the rearing of children has no bearing on their sexual orientation... Children need a safe, nurturing, and and loving environment, whether provided by a heterosexual or homosexual household. The following is offered for your edification:
The Science Of Sexual Orientation
There are few issues as hotly contested — and as poorly understood — as the question of what makes a person gay or straight. It's not only a political, social, and religious question but also a scientific question, one that might someday have an actual, provable answer.
The handful of scientists who work in this under-funded and politically charged field will tell you: That answer is a long way off. But as Lesley Stahl reports, their efforts are already yielding tantalizing clues. One focus of their research is twins.
The bedrooms of 9-year-old twins Adam and Jared couldn't be more different. Jared's room is decked out with camouflage, airplanes, and military toys, while Adam's room sports a pastel canopy, stuffed animals, and white horses.
When Stahl came for a visit, Jared was eager to show her his G.I. Joe collection. "I have ones that say like Marine and SWAT. And then that's where I keep all the guns for 'em," he explained.
Adam was also proud to show off his toys. "This is one of my dolls. Bratz baby," he said.
Adam wears pinkish-purple nail polish, adorned with stars and diamonds.
Asked if he went to school like that, Adam says, "Uh-huh. I just showed them my nails, and they were like, 'Why did you do that?'"
Check out Public Eye's coverage of the reaction to the story, which includes producer Shari Finkelstein's response to critics, here and here.
Adam's behavior is called childhood gender nonconformity, meaning a child whose interests and behaviors are more typical of the opposite sex. Research shows that kids with extreme gender nonconformity usually grow up to be gay.
Danielle, Adam and Jared's mom, says she began to notice this difference in Adam when he was about 18 months old and began asking for a Barbie doll. Jared, meanwhile, was asking for fire trucks.
Not that much has changed. Jared’s favorite game now is Battlefield 2, Special Forces. As for Adam, he says, "It's called Neopets: The Darkest Faerie."
Asked how he would describe himself to a stranger, Jared says, "I'm a kid who likes G.I. Joes and games and TV."
"I would say like a girl," Adam replied to the same question. When asked why he thinks that is, Adam shrugged.
"To me, cases like that really scream out, 'Hey, it's not out there. It's in here.' There's no indication that this mother is prone to raise very feminine boys because his twin is not that way," says Michael Bailey, a psychology professor at Northwestern University and a leading researcher in the field of sexual orientation.
Bailey says he doesn't think nurture is a plausible explanation.
Psychologists used to believe homosexuality was caused by nurture — namely overbearing mothers and distant fathers — but that theory has been disproved. Today, scientists are looking at genes, environment, brain structure and hormones. There is one area of consensus: that homosexuality involves more than just sexual behavior; it’s physiological.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/09/60minutes/main1385230.shtml
Lady Russell 06-14-08, - 05:05 AM Your premise is so flawed, its pathetic!!! :realmad:
Most gays are the product of heterosexual parents, and therefore, have the same family values as heterosexuals. In fact, studies have shown that the rearing of children has no bearing on their sexual orientation... Children need a safe, nurturing, and and loving environment, whether provided by a heterosexual or homosexual household. The following is offered for your edification:
The Science Of Sexual Orientation
There are few issues as hotly contested — and as poorly understood — as the question of what makes a person gay or straight. It's not only a political, social, and religious question but also a scientific question, one that might someday have an actual, provable answer.
The handful of scientists who work in this under-funded and politically charged field will tell you: That answer is a long way off. But as Lesley Stahl reports, their efforts are already yielding tantalizing clues. One focus of their research is twins.
The bedrooms of 9-year-old twins Adam and Jared couldn't be more different. Jared's room is decked out with camouflage, airplanes, and military toys, while Adam's room sports a pastel canopy, stuffed animals, and white horses.
When Stahl came for a visit, Jared was eager to show her his G.I. Joe collection. "I have ones that say like Marine and SWAT. And then that's where I keep all the guns for 'em," he explained.
Adam was also proud to show off his toys. "This is one of my dolls. Bratz baby," he said.
Adam wears pinkish-purple nail polish, adorned with stars and diamonds.
Asked if he went to school like that, Adam says, "Uh-huh. I just showed them my nails, and they were like, 'Why did you do that?'"
Check out Public Eye's coverage of the reaction to the story, which includes producer Shari Finkelstein's response to critics, here and here.
Adam's behavior is called childhood gender nonconformity, meaning a child whose interests and behaviors are more typical of the opposite sex. Research shows that kids with extreme gender nonconformity usually grow up to be gay.
Danielle, Adam and Jared's mom, says she began to notice this difference in Adam when he was about 18 months old and began asking for a Barbie doll. Jared, meanwhile, was asking for fire trucks.
Not that much has changed. Jared’s favorite game now is Battlefield 2, Special Forces. As for Adam, he says, "It's called Neopets: The Darkest Faerie."
Asked how he would describe himself to a stranger, Jared says, "I'm a kid who likes G.I. Joes and games and TV."
"I would say like a girl," Adam replied to the same question. When asked why he thinks that is, Adam shrugged.
"To me, cases like that really scream out, 'Hey, it's not out there. It's in here.' There's no indication that this mother is prone to raise very feminine boys because his twin is not that way," says Michael Bailey, a psychology professor at Northwestern University and a leading researcher in the field of sexual orientation.
Bailey says he doesn't think nurture is a plausible explanation.
Psychologists used to believe homosexuality was caused by nurture — namely overbearing mothers and distant fathers — but that theory has been disproved. Today, scientists are looking at genes, environment, brain structure and hormones. There is one area of consensus: that homosexuality involves more than just sexual behavior; it’s physiological.
qi-g5F8NMC8
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/09/60minutes/main1385230.shtml
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I will not waste time arguing with the newly designed sales pitches to make homosexuality acceptable as normal behavior, however, I will refer you to consult the financial records of The Vatican and ask The Pope why so many millions of dollars had to be paid in settlement for the sexual abuse charges against so many pedophile priests?
And while you are at that exercise in futility and dishonesty, do ask The Pope if he has yet received a claim of child sexual molestation against any of those same priest who were also stationed for service in The Bahamas? Finally, if the Pope is in a good mood, you might also ask him if he believes that the Priests and their victims were born homosexuals or systematically taught the behavior?
truth_hurts12 06-14-08, - 05:23 AM What is this a threat or are you the gay......:footmouth:...aaaarr.....:taped2:
Why would you perceive this as a threat? :footmouth
Were you the caller who was insisting that heterosexuals were being killed in greater numbers than homosexuals? :dgi:
We are all in this together, my brother... our society is in "crisis". I invite you to review my thread on a "National Plan to Combat Crime"... then if you wish to seriously discuss the real issues affecting our society today, lets talk, otherwise I do not have time for juvenile antics... :taped2:
http://bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=12432
Lady Russell 06-14-08, - 06:13 AM So you agree you yourself can/could be taught to be attracted to the same sex.
Again, the Creator and Architect of the human body understood so well its propensity to repeat learned behavior, even when those actions resulted in direct harm to the person and community in which they belonged, that He had His servant Moses institute Stoning as a remedy to curtail the abhorrent practice of homosexuality.
When my father showed me the Scripture in Leviticus 18 outlining God's standards for human relationships, I was amazed that this was in The Bible. An avid reader of Cosmopolitan Magazine and Penthouse Forum at that time, I believed the lie of a new modern morality, where an individual was free to behave as they wished But once I accepted God's immutable judgement on unlawful sexual relations as the truth, my lifelong task became unlearning those behaviors which fell outside of the paradigm set for un-married women.
Now the real question Dear Vicky is not could I learn to be a Lesbian, since lusting after women was never my interest nor practice, rather the question you should be asking is: Can homosexuality be unlearned? If you were to ask my friend and mentor, Dr Ellwood Donaldson, he would emphatically tell you that you are cursed to live out the remainder of your days trapped in the insanity of thinking yourself a female when all the evidence of your genitalia points to the contrary.
In my opinion: Should you ever reach the point of being sick and tired of being sick and tired of what will never ever work out satisfactorily and begin to agree with the Word of God, I believe that He is Able and that Nothing is too hard for Him, even your deliverance and restoration.
Vicky 06-14-08, - 08:32 AM Again, the Creator and Architect of the human body understood so well its propensity to repeat learned behavior, even when those actions resulted in direct harm to the person and community in which they belonged, that He had His servant Moses institute Stoning as a remedy to curtail the abhorrent practice of homosexuality.
Thats right even a woman that is raped and can't scream for help ist to be stoned.
Deuteronomy 22:23-24 (King James Version)
23If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;
24Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.
and if she is not engauged she haes to marry her rapest
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (King James Version)
28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Do you live by the Old Testament??? because if you do our constitution is in voilation of the slavery laws in the Bible and we should still have slavery to this day. Don't pick and choose stuff out of the Bible to justify your fear and hate it will not work with me. I challanged you to find where the prophet/teacher Jesus made referance to homosexuality.
When my father showed me the Scripture in Leviticus 18 outlining God's standards for human relationships, I was amazed that this was in The Bible. An avid reader of Cosmopolitan Magazine and Penthouse Forum at that time, I believed the lie of a new modern morality, where an individual was free to behave as they wished But once I accepted God's immutable judgement on unlawful sexual relations as the truth, my lifelong task became unlearning those behaviors which fell outside of the paradigm set for un-married women.
Now the real question Dear Vicky is not could I learn to be a Lesbian, since lusting after women was never my interest nor practice, rather the question you should be asking is: Can homosexuality be unlearned? Over and repeatedly it is proven it can't That is why it was taken out of the medical books. If you were to ask my friend and mentor, Dr Ellwood Donaldson, he would emphatically tell you that you are cursed to live out the remainder of your days trapped in the insanity of thinking yourself a female when all the evidence of your genitalia points to the contrary. He is a Dr of what?? Ask him about people born intersexed ambigous sexed what sex are they in their heads
Does genitalia determan you know yourself to be?? If your husband/boyfriend/son/brother lost their genitilia to an accedent whe he then be a woman? ones genitalia does not define what one knows them selves to be. Ask your Dr friend to explain this http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/2034?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&author1=Kruijver&searchid=1124400627439_6180&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&journalcode=jcem
In my opinion: Should you ever reach the point of being sick and tired of being sick and tired of what will never ever work out satisfactorily and begin to agree with the Word of God, I believe that He is Able and that Nothing is too hard for Him, even your deliverance and restoration.
Really please point out in the Bible where it says someone can't change sex/gender.
Oh and could you be so good as to let me know what is a born eunuch.
postmortem 06-14-08, - 09:40 AM I listened to a little piece of the show and heard Ms Greene say that If children grow up in a Baptist home that would have some influence on where the children, when they are grown, worship. I agree!!But when I said that the gays want to adopt children so that they can influence the next generation some said that I was crazy!! If they are allowed to do this they will contaminate the next generation with their warped "chosen" lifestyles!!
i suggest you take the crack pipe out of your ear and put it in your mouth!
only God knows what you were listening to?
Ms Greene mentioned nothing about children and baptist homes
:jawdroop:
and don't mind Lady Russell says she heard it also
she's the ***** pipe specialist
:jawdroop:
adidasboi987 06-14-08, - 09:41 AM ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I will not waste time arguing with the newly designed sales pitches to make homosexuality acceptable as normal behavior, however, I will refer you to consult the financial records of The Vatican and ask The Pope why so many millions of dollars had to be paid in settlement for the sexual abuse charges against so many pedophile priests?
And while you are at that exercise in futility and dishonesty, do ask The Pope if he has yet received a claim of child sexual molestation against any of those same priest who were also stationed for service in The Bahamas? Finally, if the Pope is in a good mood, you might also ask him if he believes that the Priests and their victims were born homosexuals or systematically taught the behavior?
Welcome back,
I find it strange that you claim that you won't waste your time arguing the notion that homosexuality is normal behaviour... But your ridiculous, irrelevant and juvenille questions are all futile attempts to prove or suggest otherwise (that homosexual behaviour is not normal)....For a woman your age, your approach to this is terribly immature... Nontheless... Beside your OBVIOUS ignorance and inability to reason...you have went steps ahead to somehow through your warped thinking, link homosexuality to pedophilia... when in fact it is KNOWN that this is not the case...You obviously as you eluded to have nothing to add to this conversation... so please take my modest suggestion and just be quiet...IT WORKS!
Lady Russell 06-14-08, - 10:16 AM Welcome back,
I find it strange that you claim that you won't waste your time arguing the notion that homosexuality is normal behaviour... But your ridiculous, irrelevant and juvenille questions are all futile attempts to prove or suggest otherwise (that homosexual behaviour is not normal)....For a woman your age, your approach to this is terribly immature... Nontheless... Beside your OBVIOUS ignorance and inability to reason...you have went steps ahead to somehow through your warped thinking, link homosexuality to pedophilia... when in fact it is KNOWN that this is not the case...You obviously as you eluded to have nothing to add to this conversation... so please take my modest suggestion and just be quiet...IT WORKS!
Your clever semantics are not at all impressive to me because if you call it pedophilia or homosexuality, it's still the act of BUGGERY, also called Sodomy, to which I am referring. You may also wish to marshall you more pleasant alphabetical soldiers, because you will not intimidate me into silence. As far as I'm aware, you don't own this site!
Lady Russell 06-14-08, - 10:31 AM i suggest you take the crack pipe out of your ear and put it in your mouth!
only God knows what you were listening to?
Ms Greene mentioned nothing about children and baptist homes
:jawdroop:
and don't mind Lady Russell says she heard it also
she's the ***** pipe specialist
:jawdroop:
Since I'm not in The Bahamas to have heard the radio programme being discussed in the thread, I simply agreed that children were the real victims of this satanic assault on God's design for family. Lest we discuss the quality of family life you experienced to have produced a deviant like you, let us not go the name calling route, One thing that is certain and that is I am not, nor have I ever been a drug abuser.
So, before you are striped bald-naked and the records of your flawed genetics are produced, suffice it to say:You don't know me!
Vicky 06-14-08, - 11:58 AM Since I'm not in The Bahamas to have heard the radio programme being discussed in the thread, I simply agreed that children were the real victims of this satanic assault on God's design for family. Lest we discuss the quality of family life you experienced to have produced a deviant like you, let us not go the name calling route, One thing that is certain and that is I am not, nor have I ever been a drug abuser.
So, before you are striped bald-naked and the records of your flawed genetics are produced, suffice it to say:You don't know me!
lets get down to it who created homosexuality?
bahama_rudest 06-14-08, - 12:40 PM lets get down to it who created homosexuality?
does it matter? all i know is da pee pee is made 4 da lay lay n not da butt butt. why we tryin 2 make tings so complicated. it shudnt matter who created homosexuality. its jus wrong. shud we ask who created beastiality where humans having sex wit animals or we jus agree that its unnatural. why distort life to be so complicated
postmortem 06-14-08, - 12:43 PM does it matter? all i know is da pee pee is made 4 da lay lay n not da butt butt. why we tryin 2 make tings so complicated. it shudnt matter who created homosexuality. its jus wrong. shud we ask who created beastiality where humans having sex wit animals or we jus agree that its unnatural. why distort life to be so complicated
we should ask who made you
as you are an abvious mistake
:jawdroop:
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