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The Point
06-14-08, - 02:41 PM
.. but the alien/clown may have a point.. only problem is the fact that the persons elected does not support the PLP....
and in the case of one who was recently elected... they are dying to get an FNM nord.. and see this as a spring board... :taped2:

You're correc' .... da chile bin tryin' to get on one ticket since......:confused::confused::confused:

Go figga!:hammer:

Alien
06-14-08, - 09:32 PM
How Alien them going to make it for another four, and then five more years?! They will lose their minds, or join up, one or the other, because I agree with Rigby that the FNM is now the majority party and will be until at least 2017, if not beyond. These are exciting times to be alive, so spend that money, and bring us out of these hard times, eh....
LOL..........sound oxymoronic, doesn't it?
:)

I think the same could have been said about the PLP, in 2002. In fact, 80% of this town, are PLP's. Some soft and some hard. Some waffle and some stick to the end.

That being said, I'm about to lose my dinner, over this economy, and, the Bahamian people, including me, having to eat dirt-pies to survive--in this "rich" country. What further sticks into my craw, was that I wasn't even political, at least I thought I wasn't, until a year before the last election, where I saw folks try to whitewash PM Ingraham's mistakes, as childish errors. To see it now, that the same hard-nosed, boneheaded economic and social mistakes, which are epitomized in his failed refferendum -which even he is afraid ro do again- to now, the stop review and cancel, in this economy, setting productivity and job creation, back in this country. People joyously carrol it as bravado, and "das our PM. Hubert"....with ill regard to the ramifications, which are typical of no planning, and how that affects people--- a matter of life, and death.

For any Bahamian, to sit here, and dismiss this recent policy decision, as childish bravado, while it may appear as whistling past the graveyeard, is enough to get your guts turning. I would only assume, he apologized to the Bahamian people, via the PLP and God, in closed quarters. But, to say, that what he did was "right", considering he was in power for 10 years, would be lying to the Bahamian people. I would not do that to you.

Further more, what further gets into me, is that I see the same people, who lost jobs and lives, during the banking debacle in this country, be picked up off of the floor by the PLP. I see people, who play both sides, get a free "hands off" ride by Christie and the PLP. To get a free ride under this administration, due to their flip-flopping and lack of moral resolve. To be eating today, after he put the clamps on the economy for the rest of us, while the rest of us, sit here and take it up the tail end, unneccesarily, because he dun mucked it up. That brings pain to my heart. The inference is, is that these folks, get a 15-20 year sustained progressional trajectory, at best, while the rest of us, are left retarded, until he makes up his mind on how we should eat and when--that's if you are not victimized, already.

But, I never heard Rigby say the FNM is the majority party and don't know the context. But, if you are being jovial, in these times, where people are in literal pain countrywide, without fair reason, you would have to be out of your mind.

But, I know why you have to whistle past the grave yard. You have to pretty up your party, for what its worth.

Alien
06-14-08, - 09:33 PM
wat does the color of her attire hav to do wit anything. so i guess if im an fnm i shud throw away all my yellor and blue shirts? dont come with that foolishness. same thing was done to the police association during elections. whateva their intentions, the associations shirt is red. they wore it 2 show unity among the police. y is that such a problem. what if their shirts was yellow. we need to move beyond color and look more at issues

Yea....she cud wear any shirt she wants. My bad.
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Alien
06-14-08, - 09:34 PM
I een mean ta hijack dis tread tho. Alien would come cross more fair iffen he leave out da politricks a da association/union cos dis really een hepin he referendum case none. I see wat he tryin ta do but he argiement een rite. It lackin substance.
...

What did I miss out, or what would have given it, greater context?
:)

12play
06-14-08, - 09:51 PM
Hard times provide opportunity. I support CSME, EPA, etc., for the same reasons. I do not believe that we should protect and industry or profession. We can still control who comes in thorough immigration policy, but goods and services should flow freely, save what is required for our national security. Time to step up our game because we can do better.Time to insist that government get out of the way and stop holding folk back.Time for the authorities to do their job without fear or favour.Time to behave like we want to be mentioned in the same breath, and respected and admired like the big boys are. We have the talent. we need the vision, and the will.

licks2
06-14-08, - 11:05 PM
Yea....she cud wear any shirt she wants. My bad.
:taped2:
So ha do you account fer dem red shirts berlinda dem wore in da papers when dem was showing dat she win da ting? Dat mean anyting aye? Dat een mean noting. . .she jess had on a red shirt!!!:realmad:

Objective thought
06-15-08, - 03:40 PM
Was the ousting of the former Christian Council Chairman, Bishop Humes, and the "out of hand" third place "rejection" of former BUT teachers union head, Ida Poitier-Turnquest, an early refferendum and response to the FNM and their "people" and the policies they support?

Let's take a look at it. 1. Bishop Humes, came out with scathing, hell fire and brimnestone attacks against the PLP. Supported the last PM to hang anyone in this country, in hopes he would encourage him to re-instate capital punishment, under some idea that the PM would follow the law.

In addition to taking a position, on behalf of the church- a weak one spiritually at that- on gambling and rose to the occasion, to champion a fence sitter's cause at a public forum....letting a shcool boy, read him and the opponents of wholesale gambling, a "prepared" riot act, while he sat there and took it and did not do the honourable thing, and corrected the young man on the issues! All in the same time, being given no heads up from his board members, on what position to take for them on their behalf? He lost by a close vote, being a 1 term BCC head.

2. Ida Poitier Turnquest, the brazen and courageous former BUT head. Led stiff civil opposition to the former PLP. Was a political unionist, to say the very least. So much so, she came to the union elections, dressed in red. Waffled on positions she had against the government, when the PLP was in power to now showing to be a horse of a different color, when the FNM is in power. To say she was a politically driven unionist, is an understatement. She lost and came in third, in a four way race as the incumbent. With elections held in the height of examinations time, where many teachers, could not make it to vote and stay on the line, to vote. Through all of the surpression of the voter the events caused, she still was rejected on the marginal vote---when the turnout is highly charged, the incumbent is most in trouble.

I say all of that, to say this; the irony of the PM, not wanting a refferendum on anything and he being afraid of a refferendum, because of his former political gaff- which had more to do with timing, and the manner in which the effort was presented, over the idea of a refferendum- has led us to TWO, proxy refferendums, where folks who appeared to share his political stripe and color, rejected!!!

The first election, was close and nicey nice, considering the conservative nature of Christians in all--dear God, Humes could not even work the crowd in his favour, on the capital punishement stance, with room full of old testament scholars. He must have done too much, too soon. The second, was an all out rejection; some feel it was for good measures. I happen to like the new BUT head's direction and positions myself.

So, the PM may not want a refferendum. But, he is getting one. Whether he likes it, or not.

Take it as you wish. I only report what I see.
:)
Don't mind these hackers, all of your points were right on target!!!

It een long now!!!

Objective thought
06-15-08, - 03:49 PM
U was doin fine b4 u get ta da po po...dey also ga white shirts cos I see it wit ma own 2 eye. White woulda been neutral. Dey was sendin a message and u no dat. Iffen u in law enforcement and ya govern by internal policies and procedures [just like ya job] and ya bigga boss da CoP, who responsible for solvin crime in we country, sen ya he order and u tun roun and diss him big time...den u een law abiding...so wat u expect jane and john public ta do...and u wonderin why da young ppl dem out a control. Dey een set no positive example.
I een mean ta hijack dis tread tho. Alien would come cross more fair iffen he leave out da politricks a da association/union cos dis really een hepin he referendum case none. I see wat he tryin ta do but he argiement een rite. It lackin substance.
Wonda wat He gern say wen BeRlInDa take she poll ta put da po po dem back in da skools. She didn't wan make it obvious, but she shirt was 1 shade down from red and she come out da vinner like she party and den da po po dem did wear red ta da polls and da red team win... BOL BTW, I is color blind, imagine if I could see...I don't see how Alien could leave out the politics because the politics is the only thing that influenced which way all those elections that he mentioned so far!!

All those persons who lost forgot that their positions call for them to be neutral....Instead they let their political views guide their decisions and moves causing their positions to be compromised....They in turn lost trying to be re-elected!!!

John Pinder is doing the same thing but I don't see who will replace him yet so for now I think his position is safe!! I don't know what will happen over the next few months though!!!

Objective thought
06-15-08, - 04:02 PM
So ha do you account fer dem red shirts berlinda dem wore in da papers when dem was showing dat she win da ting? Dat mean anyting aye? Dat een mean noting. . .she jess had on a red shirt!!!:realmad:
The shirts were orange....I know because I was there at the BUT headquarters and spoke to one of her sisters who was wearing one....There were also other people wearing the orange shirts......Not RED!!!!!

Alien
06-16-08, - 04:18 PM
Hard times provide opportunity. I support CSME, EPA, etc., for the same reasons. I do not believe that we should protect and industry or profession. We can still control who comes in thorough immigration policy, but goods and services should flow freely, save what is required for our national security. Time to step up our game because we can do better.Time to insist that government get out of the way and stop holding folk back.Time for the authorities to do their job without fear or favour.Time to behave like we want to be mentioned in the same breath, and respected and admired like the big boys are. We have the talent. we need the vision, and the will.

Such idealism. Such strength and conviction. Only if it were so.
:bouncy:

p.s.
you are right with the quote part highlighted.
:)