chaos
08-04-08, - 12:55 PM
Sap,
It we could actually get education revamped to where it was possible for even 10% of our seniors to take advantage of the PM's generous pledge, I for one would shout for joy!:bouncy:
Actually COB already gives out scholarships to almost anyone with 5 c's and above. We being duped again. In fact, if you want to be a teacher or a nurse, you only have to have 3 BGCSE's and all your expenses are paid for.
The Point
08-04-08, - 01:09 PM
Here we go wit this stupid talk again.
You cant compare public and private schools.
Private schools select who they want in the school in the first place.
Private school select who could take BJC or BGCSE
Public school een get those choices.
Get real and stop talking crap about private schools 'better'.
Public schools always get one hand tie behind their backs.
Think about this: only a handful of private schools do well. What you think bout dat:bouncy:
Where is their accountability???????
Lee dem in dey bubble....:hammer:
As long as we keep askin' da same questions --- the status quo will be!
concerned
08-04-08, - 05:54 PM
Here we go wit this stupid talk again.
You cant compare public and private schools.
Private schools select who they want in the school in the first place.
Private school select who could take BJC or BGCSE
Public school een get those choices.
Get real and stop talking crap about private schools 'better'.
Public schools always get one hand tie behind their backs.
Think about this: only a handful of private schools do well. What you think bout dat:bouncy:
Where is their accountability???????
Dear Sheeprunner,
You may call it stupid talk, but if the private school external exam results were not factored into calculating the National Average, what do you think it would be?
If the Ministry of Education wants to improve, then public and private schools should be compared. If you were in business, and your competitor consistently made larger profits, wouldn’t it be wise for you to compare your strategies with theirs? Wouldn’t it also be wise to perhaps even implement some of them to improve your product or to increase your profit?
Parents select the schools to which they wish to send their children with a full understanding of the criteria for acceptance. Private schools do not go out and solicit the students that they wish to attend. They do so for a reason and pay the price for it. If in deed most of these schools did not provide a better education than public schools then I’m sure that most of these parents would not make that sacrifice.
It is unfortunate that the public school system “always get one hand tie behind their back” but unless the parents of students in the public school system demand a change, then that is probably how it will remain. I and others have offered our suggestions and ideas to improve the public school system…charter schools, creating academic schools and technical and vocational schools, school for arts, as well as ways to improve the current system. We all would like to see every Bahamian afforded the opportunity to receive a quality education and for the playing field to be levelled. How many parents do you get out to PTA meetings? How many parents do you get who are willing to write letters to their representatives and the MOE with regard to the present system? They are the ones at whom your frustrations should be directed.
SAC is the only private high school of which I have firsthand knowledge on which to speak, so with regards to students being selected to sit exams, I beg to differ. Every student at SAC must sit BJCs and BGCSEs. They are streamed for certain subjects like Math for higher and lower level according to their ability and performance. So really, it is the child not the school who determines which paper they will sit but they will take the exam. This is a life lesson that they are taught….you control your own destiny.
As far as other private schools not doing well, are they not monitored by the MOE? Do they not receive grant and aid from the MOE? Who should be held accountable?
I understand your frustration with the system however, to blame private schools for the problems you face working within the system will not serve to fix it. We all on BI wish to see a better Bahamas, where every student in any school will receive the best education possible. We agree that there are many dedicated teachers such as our own Androsann who are frustrated by the system, we sympathize with you. There are parents like ProudPLP and Objective Truth with children in the system that struggle daily to have their concerns heard and their children’s needs met and we applaud and support them.
Perhaps you could offer some suggestions that we can do to help make your needs heard; I’m sure there are enough concerned citizens that would like to see the public school system improved.
Kindest regards,
A Concerned Bahamian
The Point
08-04-08, - 07:43 PM
...there are enough concerned citizens that would like to see the public school system improved.
Kindest regards,
A Concerned Bahamian
Here I go: buddin' in!
The main thing is--- ALL school systems needs improvement!!! There are public schools that do as well and better than private!
Statistics will show little difference minus private schools... if any at all.
Sheeprunner
08-05-08, - 11:10 AM
Here I go: buddin' in!
The main thing is--- ALL school systems needs improvement!!! There are public schools that do as well and better than private!
Statistics will show little difference minus private schools... if any at all.
CONCERNED
I read your response but I beg to differ with your analysis of the situation. Either you are an elitist or you are blind.
You admit that the only system that you are familiar with is SAC (Catholic Schools system) Anywhere in the world you go the RCC has a good system and the Bahamas is no exception. Frankly, I admire the RCC approach to education. It is a pity that the wider community does not see it as a model.
As far as the public school sytem is concerned, I like the majority of Bahamians am a product of the system and I rate my experience as a very good one. That is why I am contributing to a system that helped many of us poor black Bahamians to rise out of the slums to become productive citizens.
However, when you look at the public school syetm, dont feel sorry for us teachers in the system. Instead take your hat off to us because whether you know/admit it, we are working with one hand tied behind our backs. We face a lot of challenges that private schools are generally protected from. We have to teach 'whosoever' comes through the door (private schools select). We have a set of antiquated laws in place that control our every move (the private schools dont). We have a MOE hierarchy that is politically set up (private schools have boards). The MOE like all other ministries govern with 'kisses go by favours' (private schools should be results oriented). We have a union that protects our interests (private school teachers are on their own). Many of the top public school students are 'creamed off' at grade 6/9 by the attraction of private school scholarships. No wonder, these private schools do better!!!! Troublesome/Failing private school students are kicked out of their schools for us to teach!!!!!!!!
SHOULD I GO ON????????
The Point made a good point. There are many public schools that outperform private schools in BJC/BGCSE. So how do we account for that????
generalcrazy
08-05-08, - 11:58 AM
CONCERNED
I read your response but I beg to differ with your analysis of the situation. Either you are an elitist or you are blind.
sheeprunners dont know how to quote the right post aye :bouncy::bouncy:
Sheeprunner
08-05-08, - 12:21 PM
sheeprunners dont know how to quote the right post aye :bouncy::bouncy:
GENERAL CRAZY
Post something of intelligence before you look at a quote.
As a matter of fact my quote choice is summed up at the end of my contribution.
I have scrolled this website for two weeks and am not that impressed with your IQ.:dgi:
What are your views on improving schooling in the Bahamas?? :bouncy:
generalcrazy
08-05-08, - 12:35 PM
GENERAL CRAZY
Post something of intelligence before you look at a quote.
As a matter of fact my quote choice is summed up at the end of my contribution.
I have scrolled this website for two weeks and am not that impressed with your IQ.:dgi:
What are your views on improving schooling in the Bahamas?? :bouncy:
crazy meet crazier :bouncy::bouncy:
hot sauce
08-05-08, - 02:41 PM
You only need to reserve the BGCSE if you want people to only get in the A-C bracket. the D-G grades are for the majority of the population. The trouble is we are so used to this "passing" thing and the fact that we want all our children to pass. Let's be real, what percentage of our student population should really be qualifying to attend college or university? Surely we would only expect our brightest and best to attend these institutions otherwise what real value will there be in having a college degree?
Personally I like the idea of standardised testing in the Senior High School. But it has to be very carefully administered so that there can be no falsifying of results or "cheating" to make schools or teachers "look" good. I would still like to see a National High School Leaving certificate that details exactly what each child can do
and the irony is, the technical and vocational jobs pay decent if not high salaries (the trades - electricians, plumbers for example) Office practice and IT etc..upgrade and expand the offerings at BTVI
The Point
08-05-08, - 02:47 PM
and the irony is, the technical and vocational jobs pay decent if not high salaries (the trades - electricians, plumbers for example) Office practice and IT etc..upgrade and expand the offerings at BTVI
Happening as you type aye? Mind U, they offer many many programs...
Island_Child
10-22-08, - 03:43 AM
I would just like to say that not all private schools only allow select students to take the BGCSE. Because I am in the 12th grade and I currently attend one of the Anglican Schools in Nassau, and in the Anglican system we don't pick choose or refuse students. It is actually mandatory that all students take the BGCSE for all of their subjects regardless of their grades or academic standing.
Class of 09