Please tell me this is not true.....

what are they rioting for,
this foolishness as got to stop!
He is dead ,burry him and move on
or they want to joine him.
Come on man this is the Bahamas
ARE THEY TRYING TO SHAME US MORE?

They didnt alienate themselves from us, bahamians alienated themselves from haitians from the beginning.


That may be true in some circumstances,but speaking for myself and most people I know we are usually quick to admire,respect and help those that are trying to fit in and do better with their lives

Reading some of the posts here I can see that some of us have been affected negatively by Haitian Immigrants,some of the posters are sympathetic to their plight "I tend to be" and some of our BI community are Haitian.

Truth hurts seems to feel that today's Bahamasland is similar to 1950's America in it's attitude toward Haitians.Yorick believes we need to adhere to the law and push all illegals back to where they came and stop the rest on the beach.I feel we need to stop them before they get here and try to make Bahamians of the ones we have.

All three opinions are valid,but until our Government initiates and militantly enforces an illegal immigration policy directed at Haitians...........opinions are all we have.:confused:

:dgi::dgi::dgi::dgi::dgi: ?????? Bahamians dont speaketh creole, since they come to the bahamas they should learn the language here. How can you say bahamians alienate when its mainly due to many of them not being able to communicate properly in English or bahamianese

we do speak creole.

bahamianese?? Whats that?

Yes they should learn the english language,and most of them do know it but they should not forget or hide who they are so you can feel safe or what not.

we do speak creole.
bahamianese?? Whats that?
Yes they should learn the english language,and most of them do know it but they should not forget or hide who they are so you can feel safe or what not.
stop being technical we dont speak french or its creole

Pharoah, take my advice and don't support that nonsense. Haitians get more support within our communities than most dare to realize. The problem is with SOME members of today's generation who, instead of appreciating genuine Bahamian hospitality like those who came before, now expect to be handed a better life on a silver platter without working for it. Some members of the newer generations even look at Bahamians with contempt and disdain. They falsely believe that the scenarios that their fathers and grandfathers lived in were forced upon them, when all that their predecessors were doing is sacrificing and skimping to save ever penny to ensure that today's generation had every opportunity that they now have.

Read what I wrote in response to Truth hurts, who obviously doesn't know the facts of how deep this Haitian situation goes.

Don't fall for the blatant misinformation that Truth Hurts is spreading. The History of Haitians in the Bahamas is getting more warped every single day and the younger generations are building up more and more resentment because of this misinformation. The facts need to be told!

Yorick, i think you understand my point of view. I have seen all my life how my Bahamian brothers and sisters have treated Haitians. To be called a ''Haitian'' was tantamount to a curse. I bought into that garbage when i was growing up in Kemp road. My brother on a regular basis beat and rob Haitians of their hard earn money and possessions. I too felt no compassion for them until i found out about who i am and where i came from from a historical aspect(Slavery).

It took a complete different eyes to see that compassion and the law should go hand in hand. I have never been an advocate for law breakers whether that law breaker be a Haitian or Bahamian. But the truth of the matter is that many Haitians are here(legally) and are here to stay.

We either acknowledged them as Bahamians or we will continue to have two society in one country. Many of us are incensed because the ''new breed'' of Haitians Bahamians seem to have more loyalty to Haiti than to the Bahamas.

But, the truth be told, do you blame them? Why should they have loyalty to a country who refuse to acknowledge them when they are as much Bahamian as any one born with both parents Bahamian?? They are the proverbial cornered cat. And now with no way to run they are dangerous!!

To thousands of them the Bahamas is the only place they know. Many are educated and smart but cant get a job because the system moves so slow or one have to oil the hands to get what is rightfully theirs by law--Bahamian citizenship.

We have buried our heads in the proverbial sand for far too long now. We are sowing the seeds of our own greed and psychological cruelty. The chickens are coming home to roost.

We must cool down the temperature. Our words must be measured and our Christian compassion displayed. If we don't thread delicately with this situation, i fear, it will explode in our faces.

We must carry out the law of our country with sternness and civility. But as we seek to do that, we must always remember history and how often the ''rabbit'' can become the one holding the gun. And certainly the ''farmer'' will wish for mercy...

Yes, there was an incident in Nassau Village shortly aftere 9pm and it was related to the those troublemakers' whose citizenship/ residency status should have been revoked after the first riot.
Wow!

And I agree they should have been deported (or whatever is legal based on their status here) after the first incident!

Wow!
And I agree they should have been deported (or whatever is legal based on their status here) after the first incident!

It's sad that we define our immigration problems as HAITIAN! There are many other groups of illegals here....

Let's balance this conversation ... :hammer::hammer:

They didnt alienate themselves from us, bahamians alienated themselves from haitians from the beginning.This is the inherent problem with history. People tend to focus on the negative and ignore the existence of glaring positivity.

We would not have so many Bahamian families of Haitian descent doing so well in this country right now if Bahamians on the whole had alienated them. There is no doubt that you cannot dispute that fact

I know some Haitian families who have received more generosity over the years from Bahamians than some Bahamian families will ever receive. Just the very nature of their being allowed to come here and start a brand new life with little regard to our law systems is a blessing to them - One that should be appreciated, not spat upon.

Yorick, i think you understand my point of view. I have seen all my life how my Bahamian brothers and sisters have treated Haitians. To be called a ''Haitian'' was tantamount to a curse. I bought into that garbage when i was growing up in Kemp road. My brother on a regular basis beat and rob Haitians of their hard earn money and possessions. I too felt no compassion for them until i found out about who i am and where i came from from a historical aspect(Slavery). In every society there are elements of negativity, but it is my sincere conviction that if it was that bad for all of them, we would not have had so many of them coming here.

I have never been an advocate for law breakers whether that law breaker be a Haitian or Bahamian. But the truth of the matter is that many Haitians are here(legally) and are here to stay. Yes, and the further truth of the matter is many of them that are here to stay are the very ones who continue to bring more illegal immigrants to our shores. They often work here to pay for the rest of their family and friends to come over to his nation to circumvent our laws

Many of us are incensed because the ''new breed'' of Haitians Bahamians seem to have more loyalty to Haiti than to the Bahamas.

But, the truth be told, do you blame them? Why should they have loyalty to a country who refuse to acknowledge them when they are as much Bahamian as any one born with both parents Bahamian?? They are the proverbial cornered cat. And now with no way to run they are dangerous!! This is flawed thinking. Such thoughts are akin to excusing a person who robs a store because they grew up in a poor home.

So I'm assuming that you would agree with their moves to split this country apart because of the short-sightedness of their parents. Is this correct? Such attitudes that SOME of them have because of their situation is the exact reason why immigration regulations need to be tightened. The law exists for a purpose and when it is exploited in one way or another, the repercussions cannot be avoided. Many of them are facing these "unfair" repercussions because of the actions of their parents, this is FACT.

NONE OF THEM have any right to be angered at a nation that is merely following the rules and regulations that have existed before their parents even thought of coming here. Why are some of you so caught up in your feel-good opinions that you cannot see this clear fact?

Illegal immigration has severe repercussions for future generations in a small nation such as ours. It is time to close the borders, stop the permits and deal with this situation now. We have too much ignorance being shown about how a country works. What's next, riots because the government doesn't give them what they want? Pharoah you can't be supporting such nonsense, even in theory.

To thousands of them the Bahamas is the only place they know. Many are educated and smart but cant get a job because the system moves so slow or one have to oil the hands to get what is rightfully theirs by law--Bahamian citizenship. Citizenship at the age of eighteen is not guaranteed.

One born in this nation has the right to apply for citizenship. That doesn't mean that it will be granted. Should the Bahamas Government change it's laws to appease foreign entities? What exactly are you saying here?

Again, should the Government of this Commonwealth of The Bahamas change its laws to accommodate the influx of foreign entities?

Any of you who answer in the affirmative to the above question are out of your minds, have clearly forgotten whose country this is and obviously have forgotten that it is illegal immigration that has put this nation at odds with itself. Bahamians opened our doors in kinship and now that we are trying to close them or even more effectively monitor them, we are being unfairly branded as xenophobic and racist, among other things.


We are sowing the seeds of our own greed and psychological cruelty. The chickens are coming home to roost. Speak for yourself and for your own brother. The Haitian families that I knew when I was growing up lived and worked alongside my own. They were given a fair chance and equal treatment. Just because your experience with them was bad does not make it so for this entire nation! Generalizations such as yours are how we have ended up with these jaded perceptions that Haitians on the whole are being treated unfairly.

As I said before, illegal immigration has its repercussions. One cannot expect to come here, openly break the law and then not expect to be exploited by their own AND a MINORITY of Bahamians alike due to their illegality. Protection by the government in terms of salaries, housing and crime are available for those who go through the system legally.

Some of these persons come here illegally, people exploit them because of it and then they unfairly label ALL Bahamians as bad. THIS IS UNFAIR AND UNWARRANTED!


We must carry out the law of our country with sternness and civility. But as we seek to do that, we must always remember history and how often the ''rabbit'' can become the one holding the gun. And certainly the ''farmer'' will wish for mercy...That is the most absurd assertion to date. Are you actually implying that Haitians will take over this nation and hold us Bahamians hostage? Stop your babbling and get out of here with that nonsense!

Such assertions are even more of a reason for us to ensure that such things never happen and to impose visa and permit quotas. This entire situation is ridiculous!

It's sad that we define our immigration problems as HAITIAN! There are many other groups of illegals here....

Let's balance this conversation ... :hammer::hammer:
I've had nothing to say in reference to Haitian!

And I agree there are more nationalities. On a ive day ride around Nassau and observe how many Jamaicans cutting hair in babershops.

Think they have work permit to be barbers????

I've had nothing to say in reference to Haitian!
And I agree there are more nationalities. On a ive day ride around Nassau and observe how many Jamaicans cutting hair in babershops.
Think they have work permit to be barbers????GOOD QUESTION... give us the answer Freddies and Kings....

GOOD QUESTION... give us the answer Freddies and Kings....
Trust me they are not the only ones....

Well said...They are here to stay. We either assimilate them and make them feel wanted and appreciated(The Paper and Haitian/Bahamian) or we will continue to have violent clashes. We must remember that we once were strangers in a strange land. We were brought to this land at the point of a gun and many Haitians at the point of starvation. There is a better way and we must find it.

The Bahamian people are very hypocritical when it comes down to Haitians. We have them work and do menial jobs and then turn around, and blame the government for the amount of illegal Haitians!! We give them reasons to stay and then turn around and blame everyone but ourselves.

Many Haitians are here because of so many corrupt civil servants, who have sold our country down the pike. Until we have the courage to bring those people before the courts, the madness will continue. Bahamians are no better people than Haitians!! We are all God's children. The sooner we realized that, the better it will be for our countries peace and tranquility.
Well said buddy.

I won’t be surprised if one day it will be more of them than us. Look at Miami.

It's sad that we define our immigration problems as HAITIAN! There are many other groups of illegals here....

Let's balance this conversation ... :hammer::hammer:
There is no way that this conversation can be balanced.

Look at the topic. Have we ever had a Jamaican, Chinese or Cuban riot?

(oops I forgot that those cubans burnt down a building in the detention center)

But just answer the question: Which one group infringes the most upon Bahamian territory?

I invite anyone who feels that the Haitian immigrants in this country are helpless, or victims of some sort, to visit PMH emergency, and public wards, government primary schools in Carmichael, Elizabeth estates, and Blue Hills areas, Salvation Army on drop off days, and the Mall.

The Bahamas is being taken advantage of, and will continue to be, until we reach one of two destinations: 1) the Bahamas becomes a delapidated country like Haiti, or 2) the government, or citizens of the Bahamas, decide to stand up for what is our birthright, and take action against illegal immigration.

Now the inevitable problem with either of those to scenarios is that violence and turmoil is all, but guaranteed to occur. However, we must look at what we stand to save, and what we stand to lose. If we must act to save our little country, we must do it now. If we must endure violence and the repercussions of erradicating illegal immigration, then let us do it, with interest of having a Bahamas to live in, rather than a little Haiti to run from.

What made me laugh is how the other day I witnessed a Haitian construction worker telling his boss (a Bahamian) that he will not be able to come Cowpen road, or he ga get do in. All this because of a falling out they had. I was like well by damn, these people bold as hell.

After my laughter subsided, a sense of concern grew in me, and my eyes are opening to it more and more each day.