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a1000
09-10-05, - 09:54 AM
I deal with these companies personally.

Ok Roy, by working against coperations, i am reffering to Nafta, Cafta, Fta campains that we have worked against on an international perspective this is what i mean by working against transnational coperations, i dont know what the realavancy of your statement is since we all have some dealing with transnational corporations. But we and we is a collective we are working against the explotation of countries by these coperations, do you understand what i am saying?

Rory
09-10-05, - 11:14 AM
Ok Roy, by working against coperations, i am reffering to Nafta, Cafta, Fta campains that we have worked against on an international perspective this is what i mean by working against transnational coperations, i dont know what the realavancy of your statement is since we all have some dealing with transnational corporations. But we and we is a collective we are working against the explotation of countries by these coperations, do you understand what i am saying?



Yeah got it, sorry didnt know what you meant at first.

bahmaboy
09-10-05, - 11:31 AM
sure i know that one but we have always been kissing, there has never been a program to stop kissing, if you know of one then tell me please?



my point exactly, thats becuase we are not in the position to stop

a1000
09-10-05, - 12:25 PM
my point exactly, thats becuase we are not in the position to stop

there is that thinking in the box again, what would it take to stop if you knew that then we should work towards that goal. do you know what it takes?

canewry
09-10-05, - 08:21 PM
back in the 80's while i was at cob the concept of bahaiminization had come about advanced by the plp. i rember we had some mad times back then debating the pros and cons of the issue, as for a true bahaiman i dont know what you are getting at, i was born in the bahamas that makes me as bahamian as any one else, unless you know some thing i dont know if you do then share it. as for my sexual orientation thats private...........

Actually, I thought we were speaking about Abiskan Moon-Angel...and true-Bahamian is the name of a former member of the site who got band...actually we were debating whether you were that same person....

and the homosexual comment was regarding Abiskan Moon-Angel always defending them!

a1000
09-11-05, - 12:10 AM
Actually, I thought we were speaking about Abiskan Moon-Angel...and true-Bahamian is the name of a former member of the site who got band...actually we were debating whether you were that same person....

and the homosexual comment was regarding Abiskan Moon-Angel always defending them!

canewry: thank you for the clarification, no we are not the same person...................

bahmaboy
09-11-05, - 12:57 AM
there is that thinking in the box again, what would it take to stop if you knew that then we should work towards that goal. do you know what it takes?


what it takes the bahamas just doesnt have. they r things that would take generations to attain. why dont you tell me why you feel it can stop

a1000
09-11-05, - 08:55 AM
what it takes the bahamas just doesnt have. they r things that would take generations to attain. why dont you tell me why you feel it can stop

bahamaboy: look. i have heared this from since i was a child and if things ccontinue as they are i will be long gone and the next 100 years people will be saying the same thing. If you want to build a bridge and you have never built one before what do you do? if you can answere this question, then instead of a bridge the question will be what dose it take for the bahamas to be a self sufficient nation? As John h clark has taught us education has but one purpose to train a student to be a responsible handler of power, and power is the ability to define reality and have others respond to you from that definition.

CG
09-11-05, - 09:52 AM
.... As John h clark has taught us education has but one purpose to train a student to be a responsible handler of power, and power is the ability to define reality and have others respond to you from that definition.

With all respect to your professor - ultimately, the one purpose of education is to teach a person how to think!

I know lots of folks with all kinds of letters after their names. They are brilliant in their fields but they know nothing else, nothing else. They learned how to do, but not how to think!

a1000
09-11-05, - 10:05 AM
With all respect to your professor - ultimately, the one purpose of education is to teach a person how to think!

I know lots of folks with all kinds of letters after their names. They are brilliant in their fields but they know nothing else, nothing else. They learned how to do, but not how to think!

CG: you completely miss the point, so i am going back to grade grammar school:
1. i mentioned history
2. i mention manditory critical thinking
3. i talked about the goal of education
4. the nature of power, which allows one to define reality
5. have others respond to you from that definied reality
man i wish you had paid more attention in school, this would be so easy(but its hard to pay attention in school when they are just preparing you to be a clog in the wheel), i am not talking about degrees, this is a paradigm shift.do you get it?, besides John h clarke went as far as the 8 grade, after which in his 70's he did his doctorial, now he new about education.

a1000
09-11-05, - 10:08 AM
see post on minstry of education for deeper analysis

CG
09-11-05, - 10:14 AM
CG: you completely miss the point, so i am going back to grade grammar school:
1. i mentioned history
2. i mention manditory critical thinking
3. i talked about the goal of education
4. the nature of power, which allows one to define reality
5. have others respond to you from that definied reality
man i wish you had paid more attention in school, this would be so easy(but its hard to pay attention in school when they are just preparing you to be a clog in the wheel), i am not talking about degrees, this is a paradigm shift.do you get it?, besides John h clarke went as far as the 8 grade, after which in his 70's he did his doctorial, now he new about education.

Another part of education is to state your position clearly. Another is, if one has a point worth sharing, if one thinks it is of value, one should be able to express it and defend it without being insulting or sarcastic. If one has to resort to that then one really has no position.

a1000
09-11-05, - 10:29 AM
Another part of education is to state your position clearly. Another is, if one has a point worth sharing, if one thinks it is of value, one should be able to express it and defend it without being insulting or sarcastic. If one has to resort to that then one really has no position.

CG: I was not being sarcastic at all, i was being real. I gave the definition of education as i have learnt it to be formally and informally, what John H Clarke did for me due to my make up was he made it accademic. I listed those points to be as clear as possible about the magnitude of the subject i am discussing, if you look at all my post under a1000, or clint charlton they are all held together by a thread of unity and are consistant. i make comments because as a teacher i use different tactics to get points across if they offend you, so be it, but my aim is really to stop the mental chatter that goes on in our minds on a continuos bases so that a new pattern of veiwing reality may take places. This is a paradigm shift? This is a new dynamic way of seeing the world, a more optimal one as Lynda myers would say. At each point i am giving you references so you can go out there and see for yourself.

CG
09-11-05, - 10:43 AM
CG: I was not being sarcastic at all, i was being real. I gave the definition of education as i have learnt it to be formally and informally, what John H Clarke did for me due to my make up was he made it accademic. I listed those points to be as clear as possible about the magnitude of the subject i am discussing, if you look at all my post under a1000, or clint charlton they are all held together by a thread of unity and are consistant. i make comments because as a teacher i use different tactics to get points across if they offend you, so be it, but my aim is really to stop the mental chatter that goes on in our minds on a continuos bases so that a new pattern of veiwing reality may take places. This is a paradigm shift? This is a new dynamic way of seeing the world, a more optimal one as Lynda myers would say. At each point i am giving you references so you can go out there and see for yourself.

Then if you are trying to change the world's thinking you must be even clearer. You have a massive job ahead of you! ;) The world could do with a shake up, now and again.

a1000
09-11-05, - 10:56 AM
Then if you are trying to change the world's thinking you must be even clearer. You have a massive job ahead of you! ;) The world could do with a shake up, now and again.

CG: IT is not a matter of clarity, it is a matter of stopping the mental chatter that maintains our concept of the world, another way of saying this is that we are all born into a matrix which filters and interpets reality for us, liberation is breaking free of that matrix, sometimes sever hardship allows one to glimse the world, refference franz fannon "The Wreched of the Earth", once again this is not an mental exercise this is a process of looking at the core that makes up the self. or as the oracle says to neo in the matrix "know thy self"