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Alien
09-11-05, - 11:08 AM
for some reason i thought moon baby and victor were the same person!!

errr :gi: ...Abiskan moon angel and vicky were the same person....

CG
09-11-05, - 11:11 AM
CG: IT is not a matter of clarity,
Oh, yes it is. Any argument, if it is to succeed must be understandable.

it is a matter of stopping the mental chatter that maintains our concept of the world,
As Buddhist I am familiar with the concept of "brain chatter." But I doubt it is the same thing you mean.

another way of saying this is that we are all born into a matrix which filters and interpets reality for us,
Yes, this is so.

liberation is breaking free of that matrix,
Often only to fall into another matrix.

sometimes sever hardship allows one to glimse the world, refference franz fannon "The Wreched of the Earth"
Yes it does and it allows a glimpse at one's true self.

once again this is not an mental exercise this is a process of looking at the core that makes up the self.
And what if one sees that core and likes what he sees? Would you make him change?

or as the oracle says to neo in the matrix "know thy self"
Often when one tells another to "Know thy self" they really mean. "Know thy self as I want you to know thy self."

a1000
09-11-05, - 11:14 AM
for some reason i thought moon baby and victor were the same person!!

errr :gi: ...Abiskan moon angel and vicky were the same person....

Really
in a place like this
dose it matter?
at a deeper mystical level
do you really think,
that you
are real
or for that thought
any of this is real
are we not all shadows
and whispers
a flame
but for a moment
just a moment
in the vastness of the real
what are you?
or who am i.

RockWell
09-11-05, - 03:53 PM
at least somebody got some kind a sense around here. i admit that the usa isnt going to be the world power forever but right now they are and right now the bahamas is suckin on that teet for sustainance. the time to move on is when and only when that teet dries up. so for right now do as mamma says
HMmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Alien
09-11-05, - 04:50 PM
err...a100 if you are going to get nutty about it...please dont!
we have a lot of nuts running loose in this site!!!
:p

a1000
09-11-05, - 06:19 PM
err...a100 if you are going to get nutty about it...please dont!
we have a lot of nuts running loose in this site!!!
:p

yk2 i just count one you.

Abiskan Moon-Angel
09-11-05, - 06:21 PM
CG: I was not being sarcastic at all, i was being real. I gave the definition of education as i have learnt it to be formally and informally, what John H Clarke did for me due to my make up was he made it accademic. I listed those points to be as clear as possible about the magnitude of the subject i am discussing, if you look at all my post under a1000, or clint charlton they are all held together by a thread of unity and are consistant. i make comments because as a teacher i use different tactics to get points across if they offend you, so be it, but my aim is really to stop the mental chatter that goes on in our minds on a continuos bases so that a new pattern of veiwing reality may take places. This is a paradigm shift? This is a new dynamic way of seeing the world, a more optimal one as Lynda myers would say. At each point i am giving you references so you can go out there and see for yourself.


see! i knew it was you clint!

Abiskan Moon-Angel
09-11-05, - 06:24 PM
for some reason i thought moon baby and victor were the same person!!

errr :gi: ...Abiskan moon angel and vicky were the same person....


:what: ...you need a life!

Rory
09-11-05, - 06:28 PM
see! i knew it was you clint!


yah see that too hey .. and who's this John Clarke fellow ..?

who on earth remembers their teacher's names from school unless they are still in school or just came out of school ...

a1000
09-11-05, - 06:36 PM
Oh, yes it is. Any argument, if it is to succeed must be understandable.


As Buddhist I am familiar with the concept of "brain chatter." But I doubt it is the same thing you mean.


Yes, this is so.


Often only to fall into another matrix.


Yes it does and it allows a glimpse at one's true self.


And what if one sees that core and likes what he sees? Would you make him change?


Often when one tells another to "Know thy self" they really mean. "Know thy self as I want you to know thy self."

CG: mental chatter is mental chatter; its the same concept as in buddhism and its not confine to it, ( there is a unity through out exsistence different paths do lead to the same place do you understand the meaning of your icon?) the matrix is the cultral container in which the majority of us have been soicialized over the last 500 years, to know one self is to reach beyond that five hundered year container. i use the matrix because it is a great template to explain reality.

a1000
09-11-05, - 06:39 PM
yah see that too hey .. and who's this John Clarke fellow ..?

who on earth remembers their teacher's names from school unless they are still in school or just came out of school ...

Rory you again like a bad habit, lol i payed attention in scool so i rember my teachers, You can Find him on the net there are sights making tribute to him, John henrick Clarke

a1000
09-11-05, - 06:41 PM
see! i knew it was you clint!

Abiskan Moon-Angel: as yogi bear would say you are sharper than the average bear, tehehehehehe.

Abiskan Moon-Angel
09-11-05, - 06:58 PM
bey! i'ain gone lie, a1000, you lightin dis board right up! everytime i click on a topic-lone JOKES!!! you joining the ranks with mikki and vicky man!...and no...im not the message board re-incarnation of vicky...Y2K :angel:

Rory
09-11-05, - 09:29 PM
Rory you again like a bad habit, lol i payed attention in scool so i rember my teachers, You can Find him on the net there are sights making tribute to him, John henrick Clarke


no thanks, i dont care much for teachers, and further education is a waste of time IMO. If you really want to learn something you can do it without a teacher.

a1000
09-11-05, - 09:44 PM
no thanks, i dont care much for teachers, and further education is a waste of time IMO. If you really want to learn something you can do it without a teacher.

Rory really cannot take you seriously