I'm a young Bahamian (22) with a pretty good grasp of history. My Politics degree affords me a certain understanding of political theory and political events. I realize there is very little ideological difference in the two parties we tend to shuffle between on election day. This realization has forced some questions to the surface for me that I hope some of you might take the time to answer.

When the PLP began the movement for a true democracy and independence from the "mother country" and the "Bay Street Boys" what ideologies or persons did they look at to inspire, support and catalyze their cause?

What has become of the inspiration those sources first gave the PLP and the hope that PLP tried to give to our people?

:dgi:

I'm a young Bahamian (22) with a pretty good grasp of history. My Politics degree affords me a certain understanding of political theory and political events. I realize there is very little ideological difference in the two parties we tend to shuffle between on election day. This realization has forced some questions to the surface for me that I hope some of you might take the time to answer.
When the PLP began the movement for a true democracy and independence from the "mother country" and the "Bay Street Boys" what ideologies or persons did they look at to inspire, support and catalyze their cause?
What has become of the inspiration those sources first gave the PLP and the hope that PLP tried to give to our people?
:dgi:
Read the book "Pindling", it was a good read and would answer all of your questions.

I'm a young Bahamian (22) with a pretty good grasp of history. My Politics degree affords me a certain understanding of political theory and political events. I realize there is very little ideological difference in the two parties we tend to shuffle between on election day. This realization has forced some questions to the surface for me that I hope some of you might take the time to answer.
When the PLP began the movement for a true democracy and independence from the "mother country" and the "Bay Street Boys" what ideologies or persons did they look at to inspire, support and catalyze their cause?
What has become of the inspiration those sources first gave the PLP and the hope that PLP tried to give to our people?
:dgi:
Read the memoirs of Sir Henry Taylor. I think you will find it interesting and informative on the history of the PLP prior to Pindling.

I'm a young Bahamian (22) with a pretty good grasp of history. My Politics degree affords me a certain understanding of political theory and political events. I realize there is very little ideological difference in the two parties we tend to shuffle between on election day. This realization has forced some questions to the surface for me that I hope some of you might take the time to answer.
When the PLP began the movement for a true democracy and independence from the "mother country" and the "Bay Street Boys" what ideologies or persons did they look at to inspire, support and catalyze their cause?
What has become of the inspiration those sources first gave the PLP and the hope that PLP tried to give to our people?
:dgi:The real force behind the movemenbt were men like Milo Butler... Cecil Wallace, Henry Milton Taylor, Spergeuon Johnson ... in conversations to many.. pindlyn had to be brough along... he was not sure if it could work.. in fact he refused and had to be dragged to run in South Andros.. it was opportunity and it was given to him on a silver platter... HERO ? LOP, that is the great debate of our times...

Read the book "Pindling", it was a good read and would answer all of your questions.I feel that patty roker... could sell ... a bahamian dirt pies made in Haiti.. all spin from the perspective that make lop look good.. this book is not the best source to recommend.. just my view...get copies of the nassau dailies from that era...

Read the memoirs of Sir Henry Taylor. I think you will find it interesting and informative on the history of the PLP prior to Pindling.This maybe a better source.. but still not sufficent.. talk to some of the players that are still alive.. I do...

I feel that patty roker... could sell ... a bahamian dirt pies made in Haiti.. all spin from the perspective that make lop look good.. this book is not the best source to recommend.. just my view...get copies of the nassau dailies from that era...
This book was not written by Patti Roker....this book was written by Pindling himself with the help of Michael Craton or Michael Stevenson! I'll check when I get home!

I'll also post something from the book!

This book was not written by Patti Roker....this book was written by Pindling himself with the help of Michael Craton or Michael Stevenson! I'll check when I get home!
I'll also post something from the book!We maybe talking about two different books.. the book PINDLING or as lurker says, swingling was written by the great patti roker and pattie is a joke to me as well.....

We maybe talking about two different books.. the book PINDLING or as lurker says, swingling was written by the great patti roker and pattie is a joke to me as well.....
Nope!

I will confirm later this evening!

Yeah...I'm wondering if the party had ideological ties to the Black Panther movement, socialist or populous theorists. Did any of the classic theorists inspire their vision and plan for the country or were they looking to any particular activist or political figures outside of the country to give them some sort of direction???

There are actually two relatively recent books about Lynden Pindling

Pindling - The life and times of the first Bahamian Prime Minister by Michael Craton

and

Vision of Sir Lynden Pindling in his own words which was written by Sir Lynden with Patty Roker as the editor

Both are an extremely good read, whatever your political leanings :)

There are actually two relatively recent books about Lynden Pindling
Pindling - The life and times of the first Bahamian Prime Minister by Michael Craton
and
Vision of Sir Lynden Pindling in his own words which was written by Sir Lynden with Patty Roker as the editorThanks ann, I have not read the first book mentioned... but the second was the source of great debate ... in my circles regarding so many left of facts.... all of the book a bot sir lindlin comes from people that were paid by the pindling foundation.... so there is it....

These books are not fully supporting the facts as many who were around knows them to be the fact....

Yeah...I'm wondering if the party had ideological ties to the Black Panther movement, socialist or populous theorists. Did any of the classic theorists inspire their vision and plan for the country or were they looking to any particular activist or political figures outside of the country to give them some sort of direction???

None that you can directly pinpoint, but if you take into consideration the POst World War II ideological shifts going on across the globe, mainly, Anti-colonialism and Pan-Africanism, links can be seen. For instances most of the New PLP, were London trained lawyers, who went to school there during the most active period of the Pan-African Congress. Although Pindling never attended the 5th PAC, he did meet other Caribbean and African intellectuals who did. Moreover, AD Hanna was ALWAYS the more radical member and was familiar with the teaching of Garvey and others through his affiliated with Dr. Love (Bahamian editor of Garvey's newspaper in Jamaica).

Even the conservative P.L. Adderley co-opted MLK's Civil rights ideology in his weekly Guardian columns form 1968. There are lots of symbolic gestures and of course our nationalism would eventually be expressed in a different ways from our brothers and sisters in the Disapora. I dont think the drive has bied we just have to find leaders willing to challenge to ineptness of the Westminster system that continues to stagnate us. That is what Pindling did when he threw the mase of the window.

If you want to find out about radical figures then look into Milo Butler and Randol Fawkes (das a real bahamian bad man).

None that you can directly pinpoint, but if you take into consideration the POst World War II ideological shifts going on across the globe, mainly, Anti-colonialism and Pan-Africanism, links can be seen. For instances most of the New PLP, were London trained lawyers, who went to school there during the most active period of the Pan-African Congress. Although Pindling never attended the 5th PAC, he did meet other Caribbean and African intellectuals who did. Moreover, AD Hanna was ALWAYS the more radical member and was familiar with the teaching of Garvey and others through his affiliated with Dr. Love (Bahamian editor of Garvey's newspaper in Jamaica).
Even the conservative P.L. Adderley co-opted MLK's Civil rights ideology in his weekly Guardian columns form 1968. There are lots of symbolic gestures and of course our nationalism would eventually be expressed in a different ways from our brothers and sisters in the Disapora. I dont think the drive has bied we just have to find leaders willing to challenge to ineptness of the Westminster system that continues to stagnate us. That is what Pindling did when he threw the mase of the window.
If you want to find out about radical figures then look into Milo Butler and Randol Fawkes (das a real bahamian bad man).


Dilly to the rescue!!!!!!!!!!!! That was ovah...:cutie:

I'm asking these questions because I want to know what the original vision was for this country and the directions the architects of the country wanted to take to get there. It seems as if we've lost our way, alienated from that dream....

P.S. My uncle brought me back some Dilly Cake from Crooked Island. Ever had it???

There are actually two relatively recent books about Lynden Pindling

Pindling - The life and times of the first Bahamian Prime Minister by Michael Craton

and

Vision of Sir Lynden Pindling in his own words which was written by Sir Lynden with Patty Roker as the editor

Both are an extremely good read, whatever your political leanings :)

Yup Ann...I'm referring to the first on that was published a year or two after he died!