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bahamiangoddess
07-01-08, - 11:14 AM
July 1st, 2008
PLP Says Collie’s Resignation Not Enough
By Quincy Parker


The Progressive Liberal Party’s response to Blue Hills MP Sidney Collie’s resignation on Monday morning was that it proved the PLP had been right about the seriousness of the mistakes that had been made with regard to the recent local government elections.

The Progressive Liberal Party’s response to Blue Hills MP Sidney Collie’s resignation on Monday morning was that it proved the PLP had been right about the seriousness of the mistakes that had been made with regard to the recent local government elections.

The party also said his resignation from the Cabinet was not enough.

The PLP is also questioning the constitutionality of a proposed law that would retroactively rectify the problems associated with the recent local government elections.

Mr. Collie, who had Cabinet responsibility for lands and local government, resigned his post in the Ingraham Cabinet during the morning session of the House of Assembly, citing the requirement that ministers take responsibility for their actions and inaction.

Immediately following the morning session of the House, the PLP gathered in conclave in the minority room to hash out a statement on the resignation.

"We always understood the matter to be one of fundamental importance touching and concerning principles we cherish as a people. This resignation proves that we were right and [we are] proud to have stood up for democracy and the rule of law," the statement said.

Prime Minister Hubert Ingraham on Monday tabled a bill for an Act to Modify Provisions of the Local Government Act in its Application to Elections 2008.

The PLP took issue with that proposed legislation.

"It is therefore with great concern that [we] note that the government has laid in Parliament [on Monday a bill] which would have the effect of retroactively regularizing any irregularities and noncompliance with the Local Government Act relative to elections held on June 26, 2008," the statement said.

"The purported effect of this may be to deprive citizens of their right of action that might have accrued arising out of noncompliance with the law. Our lawyers are reviewing this matter to see if the proposed new legislation meets the test of constitutionality."

The PLP ended its press statement bluntly.

"The resignation by Sidney Collie alone is not good enough," the PLP said. "The government must accept responsibility for these serious errors."

The PLP issued only a brief written statement on Mr. Collie’s resignation, despite having called for that resignation only a day before. When questioned, PLP spokespersons explained that the party didn’t want to be seen to be gloating over Mr. Collie’s resignation, especially as his (Collie’s) integrity had never been in question.

PLP Chairman Glenys Hanna Martin on Sunday called for Mr. Collie’s resignation over what she said was the mishandling of the recent local government elections, which took place in some of the Family Islands last week.

Elections were not held in Acklins, Mangrove Cay, Hope Town, Crooked Island & Rum Cay, Central Andros, Bimini, Exuma, Mayaguana and West End after Supreme Court Justice Jon Isaacs ruled that the minister failed to act within the law as it regards the laying of local government ministerial notices on the tables of both houses of parliament, and the proper "Gazetting" of those orders.

BAHMIA
07-01-08, - 11:20 AM
What the 'f' is wrong with the PLP!

First they call for his resignation, then he resigns, now it's not enough. :sparky:
What the hell dey want, blood?

canesfins
07-01-08, - 11:27 AM
What the 'f' is wrong with the PLP!
First they call for his resignation, then he resigns, now it's not enough. :sparky:
What the hell dey want, blood?

Well in this instance, again I think they are correct. I do not think it is constitutional to pass retroactive legislation that deals with this issue.

watsayu
07-01-08, - 11:35 AM
Well in this instance, again I think they are correct. I do not think it is constitutional to pass retroactive legislation that deals with this issue.Cans, I you are in Nassau right now.. It is a cloudy day.... I hope that you can agree with that.. but I am of the view that.. If the crooked PLP says it was sunny out side and that Hubert is stopping the rain.... You would say well in this instance, again I think that they are right..... :taped2:

casualobserver
07-01-08, - 11:43 AM
"The purported effect of this may be to deprive citizens of their right of action that might have accrued arising out of noncompliance with the law.

[B]Our lawyers are reviewing this matter to see if the proposed new legislation meets the test of constitutionality."

Aren't the majority of Bahamian politicians lawyers? Isn't most of the PLP Opposition made up of lawyers? Isn't the Leader a lawyer? Isn't the Chairperson a lawyer? Aren't the shadow ministers mostly lawyers?

Yet they have to have their lawyers review the matter?

Brown Suga
07-01-08, - 11:44 AM
What the 'f' is wrong with the PLP!
First they call for his resignation, then he resigns, now it's not enough. :sparky:
What the hell dey want, blood?

Like they can talk about what is right or wrong, moral or immoral!


SMH & SMT!

canesfins
07-01-08, - 11:44 AM
Cans, I you are in Nassau right now.. It is a cloudy day.... I hope that you can agree with that.. but I am of the view that.. If the crooked PLP says it was sunny out side and that Hubert is stopping the rain.... You would say well in this instance, again I think that they are right..... :taped2:

You think so - you know nothing about what I believe and dont believe so back off. You want to paint me as biased and one sided, but unlike you, I am not. I see facts and reality for what it is, not what I want it to be.

I speak from a legal persoective, please let me know where you obtained yoru legal education so I can accept your opinion on this issue. As I said, I do not think this is a permissible form of retroactive legislation, but I will confirm.

watsayu
07-01-08, - 11:59 AM
You think so - you know nothing about what I believe and dont believe so back off. You want to paint me as biased and one sided, but unlike you, I am not. I see facts and reality for what it is, not what I want it to be.
I speak from a legal persoective, please let me know where you obtained yoru legal education so I can accept your opinion on this issue. As I said, I do not think this is a permissible form of retroactive legislation, but I will confirm.I think that yesterday, I carefully pointed out to you that I am not as bright as you arebut I do have a point of view.. I am just speaking on what I see from you on other threads/post....

BUT I want to know what does the PLP mean.. what do they want.. I just spoke to the PLP chairperson.. she simply says... it is not personal... so I just told her who is going to resign over the 2007 General Elections failure and yes.. we are still in election court ova that right now.. what do you have to say over that...

canesfins
07-01-08, - 12:01 PM
I think that yesterday, I carefully pointed out to you that I am not as bright as you arebut I do have a point of view.. I am just speaking on what I see from you on other threads/post....
BUT I want to know what does the PLP mean.. what do they want.. I just spoke to the PLP chairperson.. she simply says... it is not personal... so I just told her who is going to resign over the 2007 General Elections failure and yes.. we are still in election court ova that right now.. what do you have to say over that...

She isn't going to tell you anything. That I am sure of.

chancellor
07-01-08, - 12:53 PM
Nasty bullahs the PLP is right now.

They want his seat aye?!

they cant be talking about prision time becasue they will open a storm of worms and parasites that would rip the country.....after it rips their party first because as told, some of them have some real good evidence against them to be dragged through Bank Lane right now........

SpamStopper
07-01-08, - 01:09 PM
and this is why neither party can run the country .. they like little children. instead of dealing with the problems that the country faces they do this kind of crap every day.

bahamiangoddess
07-01-08, - 01:11 PM
Nasty bullahs the PLP is right now.
They want his seat aye?!
they cant be talking about prision time becasue they will open a storm of worms and parasites that would rip the country.....after it rips their party first because as told, some of them have some real good evidence against them to be dragged through Bank Lane right now........


Let the P.L.P push their luck, the statute of limitation is still valid on a lot things they did in the past five years.

But trust me, they do not want to go down that road!

Objective thought
07-01-08, - 08:36 PM
Cans, I you are in Nassau right now.. It is a cloudy day.... I hope that you can agree with that.. but I am of the view that.. If the crooked PLP says it was sunny out side and that Hubert is stopping the rain.... You would say well in this instance, again I think that they are right..... :taped2:
Look ya, I am tired of you calling PLPs crooked and corrupt when you know that you are one of the biggest crooks around!!

Yes I said that because I have the evidence to prove what I am saying....Some evidence that just dropped into my hands.....

Evidence of how you have tricked many "foreigners"...........

Objective thought
07-01-08, - 08:54 PM
and this is why neither party can run the country .. they like little children. instead of dealing with the problems that the country faces they do this kind of crap every day.
News flash>>>>>>>>>>The PLP and The FNM have been running this country for over 40 years now!!!! Where have you been????

SpamStopper
07-01-08, - 09:13 PM
News flash>>>>>>>>>>The PLP and The FNM have been running this country for over 40 years now!!!! Where have you been????

And thats why it is how it is - THIRD WORLD.
neither party can run the country.