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FACTS ONLY 07-01-08, - 01:38 PM Why is it so hard for males to talk about their failures in relationships? I mean 'some' of us females have at one point or another being lied to, taken advantage of, used, abused, swung, and all manners of things. We, those of us with sense have been able to talk talk talk about it. Even to total strangers we just let it all hang out and get a couple good cries.
Some of us put on weight, some of us lose weight. We cut our hairs or break out the sexy clothes and start going out. We throw away rings that we once sported and bragged about. We rip up pictures and may even smash a windshield or two.
For a while we may even do a lil stalking and phone hang ups.
We get over it!! We are forced to cos we have to see the man we once loved with his other girlfriend.
Men on the other hand, are ashamed their 'woman' schemed on them. They are too macho to think that some other man got the best of them even though they missed all the signs of when the woman wanted to sit and talked or complained of not feeling loved.
The same fellas they call their friends their "DOGS" can't even confide in them. How come? Is it because they laugh at their friends when it happens to them? Or because they act like the relationship was not so important in the past that they cannot dare now say how they are hurting?
I have a male friend at work who talks EVERYTHING!! He even embarrases me because he sounds like one of my female friends. I mean heen shame ta say how much money he spent on a woman and have nothing to show or how he co-sign for a loan for a woman and now the bank calling him on his job. He is extremely rare. We laugh with him but we always tell him because he is not afraid to be seen as vulnerable he will be ok.
Ok fellas..why do you guys find it easy to tackle anything else but your relationships.
Not any man in particular, but men in general.
Also, why is it so difficult for men to have purely platonic female friends?
androsann 07-01-08, - 01:40 PM Why is it so hard for males to talk about their failures in relationships? I mean 'some' of us females have at one point or another being lied to, taken advantage of, used, abused, swung, and all manners of things. We, those of us with sense have been able to talk talk talk about it. Even to total strangers we just let it all hang out and get a couple good cries.
Some of us put on weight, some of us lose weight. We cut our hairs or break out the sexy clothes and start going out. We throw away rings that we once sported and bragged about. We rip up pictures and may even smash a windshield or two.
For a while we may even do a lil stalking and phone hang ups.
We get over it!! We are forced to cos we have to see the man we once loved with his other girlfriend.
Men on the other hand, are ashamed their 'woman' schemed on them. They are too macho to think that some other man got the best of them even though they missed all the signs of when the woman wanted to sit and talked or complained of not feeling loved.
The same fellas they call their friends their "DOGS" can't even confide in them. How come? Is it because they laugh at their friends when it happens to them? Or because they act like the relationship was not so important in the past that they cannot dare now say how they are hurting?
I have a male friend at work who talks EVERYTHING!! He even embarrases me because he sounds like one of my female friends. I mean heen shame ta say how much money he spent on a woman and have nothing to show or how he co-sign for a loan for a woman and now the bank calling him on his job. He is extremely rare. We laugh with him but we always tell him because he is not afraid to be seen as vulnerable he will be ok.
Ok fellas..why do you guys find it easy to tackle anything else but your relationships.
Not any man in particular, but men in general.
Also, why is it so difficult for men to have purely platonic female friends?
And why do men have a problem if their wives/girlfriends have purely platonic male friends?
FACTS ONLY 07-01-08, - 01:43 PM And why do men have a problem if their wives/girlfriends have purely platonic male friends?
Maybe cos they KNOW what they want to do with THEIR female 'friends.'
Lurker 07-01-08, - 02:04 PM And why do men have a problem if their wives/girlfriends have purely platonic male friends?
I have the answer for this one. Because a platonic friends between a heterosexual man and a heterosexual women is never platonic on the man's part. No matter how much he insists that it is, he is either acting or suppressing his primal feelings of sexual attractions.
I have had many many "platonic" friendships and in every single case, I would have jumped into bed if I had the opportunity or means or clear circumstances. In many cases, I did have the opportunity but never availed myself to it, because the woman was attached to someone else, and my morals would prevent me from hurting the other person.
On the other part of the conversation, if my relationship fails, I do not tell my male colleagues right away -- especially if it were a long term relationship and they knew my partner. I suppose that it is a fragile male ego thing -- failure is hard to admit to your male colleagues. Men live in a testosterone world where we have to compete against other men for the affections of a woman. That is why we are guarded with other men. Your friend and bosom buddy might be your romantic rival.
John Doe 07-01-08, - 02:07 PM Why is it so hard for males to talk about their failures in relationships? I mean 'some' of us females have at one point or another being lied to, taken advantage of, used, abused, swung, and all manners of things. We, those of us with sense have been able to talk talk talk about it. Even to total strangers we just let it all hang out and get a couple good cries.
Some of us put on weight, some of us lose weight. We cut our hairs or break out the sexy clothes and start going out. We throw away rings that we once sported and bragged about. We rip up pictures and may even smash a windshield or two.
For a while we may even do a lil stalking and phone hang ups.
We get over it!! We are forced to cos we have to see the man we once loved with his other girlfriend.
Men on the other hand, are ashamed their 'woman' schemed on them. They are too macho to think that some other man got the best of them even though they missed all the signs of when the woman wanted to sit and talked or complained of not feeling loved.
The same fellas they call their friends their "DOGS" can't even confide in them. How come? Is it because they laugh at their friends when it happens to them? Or because they act like the relationship was not so important in the past that they cannot dare now say how they are hurting?
I have a male friend at work who talks EVERYTHING!! He even embarrases me because he sounds like one of my female friends. I mean heen shame ta say how much money he spent on a woman and have nothing to show or how he co-sign for a loan for a woman and now the bank calling him on his job. He is extremely rare. We laugh with him but we always tell him because he is not afraid to be seen as vulnerable he will be ok.
Ok fellas..why do you guys find it easy to tackle anything else but your relationships.
Not any man in particular, but men in general.
Also, why is it so difficult for men to have purely platonic female friends?
I would say this, Men may not want to seem as someone who cant satisfy a woman in the bedroom because most of society would agree or believe that the reason why the woman cheated is because her man could not perform, (most of the time). Plus, most guys would not want their relationship flaws to be used against them by their boys cause they know they will definetly get teased and laughed at and a way for most men to hide their relationship flaws is to sometimes laugh at others who are going throught the same teeng or worse to make themselves feel better about themselves and never admit it to no one, even too his girlfriend/wife. Cheating or a man constantly accusing a woman of cheating is usually a result of him cheating himself and vice versa, I guess the saying would be (I could have my fun but you cant have yours).
All in all, its a case of pride and machoness instilled in him from society as a child. A guy does not want society to teenk he soft or emotional because he would feel like less of a man by the time the others have laughed at him for being soft. Thats just society.
Plus its very rare in our society for a man who is either married or has a girlfriend to have a platonic relationship with another woman because of a lack of trust/insecurity and most of all, the female friend (if she is interested in the man) could possibly use the flaws of the mans relationship to her advantage to take the man from his woman in which the wife/girlfriend will do her best to try and prevent whether she senses it or not.
John Doe 07-01-08, - 02:08 PM And why do men have a problem if their wives/girlfriends have purely platonic male friends?
Because most men dont trust the other guy even if they trust their woman....vice versa too....
John Doe 07-01-08, - 02:09 PM I have the answer for this one. Because a platonic friends between a heterosexual man and a heterosexual women is never platonic on the man's part. No matter how much he insists that it is, he is either acting or suppressing his primal feelings of sexual attractions.
I have had many many "platonic" friendships and in every single case, I would have jumped into bed if I had the opportunity or means or clear circumstances. In many cases, I did have the opportunity but never availed myself to it, because the woman was attached to someone else, and my morals would prevent me from hurting the other person.
On the other part of the conversation, if my relationship fails, I do not tell my male colleagues right away -- especially if it were a long term relationship and they knew my partner. I suppose that it is a fragile male ego thing -- failure is hard to admit to your male colleagues. Men live in a testosterone world where we have to compete against other men for the affections of a woman. That is why we are guarded with other men. Your friend and bosom buddy might be your romantic rival.
Precisely....:hammer:
Teniel 07-01-08, - 02:13 PM The only way a man and a woman can be platonic friends is if one or both of them are gay. Or the dude or the gal has absolutely no sexual attraction for the other person.
LotusPhoenix 07-01-08, - 02:21 PM The only way a man and a woman can be platonic friends is if one or both of them are gay. Or the dude or the gal has absolutely no sexual attraction for the other person.
Too right.
You can be aquaintences and hang out every once in a while but not ALL the time like real friends cause he gon want jump ya bones, even if he thinks your ugly.
Not that there aren't men who will respect the boundaries and NEVER act on their urges even if you strip naked for them (ONCE).
grouper2 07-01-08, - 03:04 PM Why is it so hard for males to talk about their failures in relationships? I mean 'some' of us females have at one point or another being lied to, taken advantage of, used, abused, swung, and all manners of things. We, those of us with sense have been able to talk talk talk about it. Even to total strangers we just let it all hang out and get a couple good cries.
Some of us put on weight, some of us lose weight. We cut our hairs or break out the sexy clothes and start going out. We throw away rings that we once sported and bragged about. We rip up pictures and may even smash a windshield or two.
For a while we may even do a lil stalking and phone hang ups.
We get over it!! We are forced to cos we have to see the man we once loved with his other girlfriend.
Men on the other hand, are ashamed their 'woman' schemed on them. They are too macho to think that some other man got the best of them even though they missed all the signs of when the woman wanted to sit and talked or complained of not feeling loved.
The same fellas they call their friends their "DOGS" can't even confide in them. How come? Is it because they laugh at their friends when it happens to them? Or because they act like the relationship was not so important in the past that they cannot dare now say how they are hurting?
I have a male friend at work who talks EVERYTHING!! He even embarrases me because he sounds like one of my female friends. I mean heen shame ta say how much money he spent on a woman and have nothing to show or how he co-sign for a loan for a woman and now the bank calling him on his job. He is extremely rare. We laugh with him but we always tell him because he is not afraid to be seen as vulnerable he will be ok.
Ok fellas..why do you guys find it easy to tackle anything else but your relationships.
Not any man in particular, but men in general.
Also, why is it so difficult for men to have purely platonic female friends?
Men are stronger physically,women stronger mentally. It is hard for me to have platonic female friends,cause as a true male i ga have to sniff the cat period. So you stay in corner and i stay in mine.We will be friends from a distance.
LotusPhoenix 07-01-08, - 03:10 PM Men are stronger physically,women stronger mentally. It is hard for me to have platonic female friends,cause as a true male i ga have to sniff the cat period. So you stay in corner and i stay in mine.We will be friends from a distance.
Ewwwwwwww:eek:
I have the answer for this one. Because a platonic friends between a heterosexual man and a heterosexual women is never platonic on the man's part. No matter how much he insists that it is, he is either acting or suppressing his primal feelings of sexual attractions.
I have had many many "platonic" friendships and in every single case, I would have jumped into bed if I had the opportunity or means or clear circumstances. In many cases, I did have the opportunity but never availed myself to it, because the woman was attached to someone else, and my morals would prevent me from hurting the other person.
On the other part of the conversation, if my relationship fails, I do not tell my male colleagues right away -- especially if it were a long term relationship and they knew my partner. I suppose that it is a fragile male ego thing -- failure is hard to admit to your male colleagues. Men live in a testosterone world where we have to compete against other men for the affections of a woman. That is why we are guarded with other men. Your friend and bosom buddy might be your romantic rival.
Ditto!
By the way ladies, I ain't killing myself nor no one else over no woman. I does tell my wife all the time I love you but I do not need you and yes I can live with out you. Might hurt lil while but i will get over you.
Too right.
You can be aquaintences and hang out every once in a while but not ALL the time like real friends cause he gon want jump ya bones, even if he thinks your ugly.
Not that there aren't men who will respect the boundaries and NEVER act on their urges even if you strip naked for them (ONCE).
Mmmmmmm!
BAHMIA 07-01-08, - 09:21 PM Too right.
You can be aquaintences and hang out every once in a while but not ALL the time like real friends cause he gon want jump ya bones, even if he thinks your ugly.
WTF?
Madison1985 07-01-08, - 09:48 PM Too right.
You can be aquaintences and hang out every once in a while but not ALL the time like real friends cause he gon want jump ya bones, even if he thinks your ugly.Not that there aren't men who will respect the boundaries and NEVER act on their urges even if you strip naked for them (ONCE).
chile dat guy must be really horny to be jumpin some ugly chica cuz i no i cant lay wit no ugly man, but i no for sure i cant be friends wit a guy im attracted to, tried it, and it just pissed me off, but if im not attracted to dem, i cud be friends wit dem till da end of time, but den dey ga wan ask ya for sum, which i dont be into, but i dont mind my guy havin female friends, but ya hav to warn dem dat if a female is attracted to dem and dat gal no he has a gf he may think she mite be comin off as a friend, but wat she really tryin to do is get u to leav ur main gal or cheat
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