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RockWell
03-21-05, - 09:24 PM
Hi Marichal I will let the Alliance know what you have said.
Which mall and where in the mall do they hang out?
How many girls in the group at the mal??
Did you talk with them to know they were a gang of lesbians??
Or did you see them having sex with one another???

Gangs on a whole are not good.
The mall @ marathon,& I know atleast 7 of them personally also know a few girls they came on 2. ps Vick no need 2 let your alliance know,cuz I know a well known personality in your Alliance who knows some of these very same girls also.

RockWell
03-21-05, - 09:30 PM
Why does the alliance have to become involved in this? In my opinion this is a matter for the Royal Bahamas Police Force, and other security agencies in this country to deal with. Gay or not, or lesbian or not, gangs tear at the social fabric of our society, perpetuating violence and lawlesslness among our often vulnerable youth. I think we are all focusing on the issues of sexuality too much here. If these gangs were a gang of straight girls, in my opinion it would still need as much attention and need to be dealt with and removed out of our society. Lets stay out of the bedroom on this one, cause if they are lesbian or not, they are still causing trouble, and should be dealt with equally.
Agreed! Hey maybe they want them to join the alliance.As 2 the Police issue my knowledge of these gangs are it is mostly a sexual issue,girls walkin round in sweatsuits jeans & cornrows actin like boys.

Vicky
03-22-05, - 10:10 AM
Why does the alliance have to become involved in this? In my opinion this is a matter for the Royal Bahamas Police Force, and other security agencies in this country to deal with. Gay or not, or lesbian or not, gangs tear at the social fabric of our society, perpetuating violence and lawlesslness among our often vulnerable youth. I think we are all focusing on the issues of sexuality too much here. If these gangs were a gang of straight girls, in my opinion it would still need as much attention and need to be dealt with and removed out of our society. Lets stay out of the bedroom on this one, cause if they are lesbian or not, they are still causing trouble, and should be dealt with equally.

Let me see if I can say thins right. We do not condone criminal activity by anyone. If these girls are lesbians and are being steered in a criminal direction, would it not be better to steer them away from a criminal direction? What organization would do this accepting these girls for who they are (if they are) lesbians.

Do you think all we do is mouth off at protests?
We are to soon open our first GLBT community center where all are welcome.
It will be open in the next few months.

Vicky
03-22-05, - 10:27 AM
The mall @ marathon,& I know atleast 7 of them personally also know a few girls they came on 2. ps Vick no need 2 let your alliance know,cuz I know a well known personality in your Alliance who knows some of these very same girls also.

Yes I know our well-known personality so I know we have communicated with members of the gangs.
Please note I am one of the founding members. I was one of the founding members of Hope T.E.A. I am also the oldest member.
As you call her “a well known personality” was there when we discussed the situation. It was she who said it’s a gang of girls who may use lesbian sex as part of their initiation. Not all of the girls are lesbians.
As I said don't shoot me if I had the info wrong as we were discusing it while working at the center fixing it up and I was paying attention to what I was doing.

Vicky
03-22-05, - 10:33 AM
Agreed! Hey maybe they want them to join the alliance.As 2 the Police issue my knowledge of these gangs are it is mostly a sexual issue,girls walkin round in sweatsuits jeans & cornrows actin like boys.

Yes they can join the alliance maybe then they can focus their energy to help our community. Please remember the Alliance is a few groups that have joined as allies. even though now we function as one group. All are welcome to join.
If they are acting like boys that’s a gender issue not sex.

Tafadhali
03-23-05, - 02:07 PM
Lawd what is dis! Nassau/The Bahamas is getting completely out of hand. What is this about there being lesbian gangs in the schools? I saw the story on the front page a couple of days ago, but I didn't get to read it. Someone fill me in please? :jawdroop:



Too much disorder is going on because children are having children. Personally I feel that these girls need to be beat with the girly stick. This is absolutely ridiculous.

Vicky
03-23-05, - 02:11 PM
Too much disorder is going on because children are having children. Personally I feel that these girls need to be beat with the girly stick. This is absolutely ridiculous.

OK so why are children having children??

Tafadhali
03-23-05, - 02:23 PM
OK so why are children having children??



I wont carry on in low blow charades with you. Children are having children because there is no structure in the home. Men are too busy not dealing with their realities and sleeping with underage girls (in this country) when they know better. Mothers are too busy trying to make ends meet while not taking time out to talk to their young girls about teenage motherhood, AIDS, education and the hope and opportunity that comes along with it.

Vicky
03-23-05, - 02:37 PM
I wont carry on in low blow charades with you. Children are having children because there is no structure in the home. Men are too busy not dealing with their realities and sleeping with underage girls (in this country) when they know better. Mothers are too busy trying to make ends meet while not taking time out to talk to their young girls about teenage motherhood, AIDS, education and the hope and opportunity that comes along with it.

Wow is there something wrong with wanting to hear your opinion as to why children are having children.

Would it not be a good idea to have peer support groups where these kids can learn about life such as the birds and the bees and stds. Have adult supervision but not in the circle group.

casualobserver
03-23-05, - 05:26 PM
Wow is there something wrong with wanting to hear your opinion as to why children are having children.

Would it not be a good idea to have peer support groups where these kids can learn about life such as the birds and the bees and stds. Have adult supervision but not in the circle group.


Remember when it was just the birds and the bees? My, how times have changed that we have to include STD's in the conversation!

Rizzo
03-24-05, - 08:56 AM
Y'all remember that Bahamian show "Teen Spirit"? they need to bring something like that back. Ain't everyone gonna go to a meeting to talk about stuff that makes them uncomfortable, but they can watch a show targeted to them at home and feel comfortable. They could even call in to ask questions. They need that show now!
I was at my mechanic's shop the other day and one guy was there talking about how he sleeps with 13 year old haitian girls, and he has a daughter who's 12.....He didn't even think it was wrong, because they looked mature and already had sex before....To quote him, "They already know bout dat before dey come here".....I mean c'mon....people aren't born with consciences anymore it seems.....
The main problem in the Bahamas today is that people just don't care about anything anymore. And those who do care, can't say much because some people don't like to be corrected and can get violent.

Alien
03-24-05, - 09:29 AM
why wont you guys just quit with all of this doom bussiness...
:sparky:

Vicky
03-24-05, - 01:19 PM
Y'all remember that Bahamian show "Teen Spirit"? they need to bring something like that back. Ain't everyone gonna go to a meeting to talk about stuff that makes them uncomfortable, but they can watch a show targeted to them at home and feel comfortable. They could even call in to ask questions. They need that show now!
I was at my mechanic's shop the other day and one guy was there talking about how he sleeps with 13 year old haitian girls, and he has a daughter who's 12.....He didn't even think it was wrong, because they looked mature and already had sex before....To quote him, "They already know bout dat before dey come here".....I mean c'mon....people aren't born with consciences anymore it seems.....

so what did you do about what he told you??? Did you report him to the police??? or were you a good Christian and look the other way??? The man is a pedophile. My thoughts of you just fell through the floor. Please tell me you reproted the sob
The main problem in the Bahamas today is that people just don't care about anything anymore. And those who do care, can't say much because some people don't like to be corrected and can get violent.

Teniel
03-24-05, - 07:24 PM
so what did you do about what he told you??? Did you report him to the police??? or were you a good Christian and look the other way??? The man is a pedophile. My thoughts of you just fell through the floor. Please tell me you reproted the sob


C'mon Vicky, as bad as this situation is, one requires evidence to carry to the police to initiate an ivestigation,like a tape recording for instance of this alleged guy acknowledging tha the sleeps with 13 year old haitian girls, and even more evidence than that (physical and testimonies). I am not saying that to turn a blind eye to the situation, but you need evidence to initiate some form of justice. And not fair to make reference to Christians in this, its anyone's duty christian or not, to carry evidence of such things if they it have it to the police.

Vicky
03-24-05, - 08:09 PM
C'mon Vicky, as bad as this situation is, one requires evidence to carry to the police to initiate an ivestigation,like a tape recording for instance of this alleged guy acknowledging tha the sleeps with 13 year old haitian girls, and even more evidence than that (physical and testimonies). You are so right Teniel Rizzo should wait till his mechanic rapes another 13-year-old girl and get some proof before he reports the problem. Oh and here is another thought what if the mechanic said he was having sex with 13 year old boys. What would have happened? Are girls less valued than boys? Or is it because they are Haitian? The mechanic is a pedophile and when he rapes a child again its on Rizzo hands for saying and doing nothing. Rizzo makes him self as guilty as the mechanic if he did nothing. I am not saying that to turn a blind eye to the situation, but you need evidence to initiate some form of justice. And not fair to make reference to Christians in this, its anyone's duty christian or not, You know I thought about that and you are so right. I guess I was firing off at Rizzo. I lower my head and say I am sorry. But I am only human and one of my daughters was date raped and I now have a wonderful granddaughter. She is 7 what if the mechanic has his sights set on her. to carry evidence of such things if they it have it to the police.

Uh you don't need proof to let the police know what the man told Rizzo. Its information that they can use to watch the man. I am waiting on Rizzo's next post.