While saying the recent resignation of Sidney Collie as local government minister was appropriate, PLP Chairman Glenys Hanna Martin said in the House of Assembly Wednesday Mr. Collie was made a scapegoat.

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Dem tobacco chewing fellas in Man O War Cay don cause dat good man to loose he job. Dey wa get ridda Jeremy Sweeting as da chief, so dey encourage Collie to mess wid the rules o local Gubment. Collie get called out by Hannah Martin (a gal who Daddy grow up in Hopetown) now da Man O War fellas dem aint know wa to do.

Dey still wa get ridda Jeremy but time will tell.

But, bear in mind Collie aint do all dis on he own - you know who really in charge, eh? Soma dem tobacco junkies spend all day on the fone to HI. They tink they own him lock stock and barrel.

Poor Collie, hope HI find him a next job.

So if Martin felt this way, why call for Collie's head in the first place? Collie did not bring this matter to Cabinet, else things that should have been tabled, etc., would have. Collie was just slack in this case. Bahamian culture, so what else do people expect?

So if Martin felt this way, why call for Collie's head in the first place? Collie did not bring this matter to Cabinet, else things that should have been tabled, etc., would have. Collie was just slack in this case. Bahamian culture, so what else do people expect?
What I find so interesting is that why when Christie was doing the things people like Martin later complained about after they lost, did she put the pressure on him. She sat in his Cabinet, never said a word and all of a sudden has now found her voice. Give me a break! No creditibility at all. In fact it's people like her who should aopologise and then resign. Ha, we know that will never happen! I hear Damian Gomez so upset, cause she trying to take the legal victory as hers. The PLP need to purge and come back with a whole new team, just maybe then people will take them seriously.

So if Martin felt this way, why call for Collie's head in the first place? Collie did not bring this matter to Cabinet, else things that should have been tabled, etc., would have. Collie was just slack in this case. Bahamian culture, so what else do people expect?

In all fairness to Collie, he was just following the same procedure and presedence that was established in 2002 and in 2005 to hold the Local Gov election during those times. He also had to be advise by the P.S. who was responsible and held past election under the same criteria that this was done when the PLP was in power and the PLP knows this.

So in my view they are playing pure politics with local gov because this is the exact same format they use for 02 and 05.

Mrs. Hanna-martin in my view is a pure Hypocrite.

In all fairness to Collie, he was just following the same procedure and presedence that was established in 2002 and in 2005 to hold the Local Gov election during those times. He also had to be advise by the P.S. who was responsible and held past election under the same criteria that this was done when the PLP was in power and the PLP knows this.
So in my view they are playing pure politics with local gov because this is the exact same format they use for 02 and 05.
Mrs. Hanna-martin in my view is a pure Hypocrite.
I so agree with you and a coward too! She sure didn't have this so-called passion and concern when she was in power. Shame!

In all fairness to Collie, he was just following the same procedure and presedence that was established in 2002 and in 2005 to hold the Local Gov election during those times. He also had to be advise by the P.S. who was responsible and held past election under the same criteria that this was done when the PLP was in power and the PLP knows this.
So in my view they are playing pure politics with local gov because this is the exact same format they use for 02 and 05.
Mrs. Hanna-martin in my view is a pure Hypocrite.

And this is why he is where he is now. He should have had it changed, becasue the exact thing happened in the last Local gov. elections. He put all of his trust in the Permenant Secratary.

And this is why he is where he is now. He should have had it changed, becasue the exact thing happened in the last Local gov. elections. He put all of his trust in the Permenant Secratary.

I agree with you completely.

cuz if it was me once I took ova all the top people woulda been moved.

I agree with you completely.
cuz if it was me once I took ova all the top people woulda been moved.

That's the tight spot there. What do you do when the last PS was appointed by the last administration? If the PS would not have shouted, the PLP would have said VICTIMIZATION.

But you don't have to push anyone out really you know. You keep them there becasue some are still valuable, and then they can't say that your party have victimized in that office. But what you do is to research, make youself aware of all the major thing that have happened behind the doors of your ministry at least 5 years prior to your appointment, from documents, random questions. YOU be aware of "how da ting does go" so that you make the right decision that is preserves your behind, and your reputation as at least competent.

That's the tight spot there. What do you do when the last PS was appointed by the last administration? If the PS would not have shouted, the PLP would have said VICTIMIZATION.
But you don't have to push anyone out really you know. You keep them there becasue some are still valuable, and then they can't say that your party have victimized in that office. But what you do is to research, make youself aware of all the major thing that have happened behind the doors of your ministry at least 5 years prior to your appointment, from documents, random questions. YOU be aware of "how da ting does go" so that you make the right decision that is preserves your behind, and your reputation as at least competent.

Tru Dat.

but b/c I is a paraniod person I still woulds move them although I do understand that the victimization card would be use.

In most of the Western world when a Gov change there is a tendency to clean house, I guess that why I feel that our gov should do the same. I really wish the our people could be more nuetral and objective when it come to carryin out the affairs and the governance of our country but unfortunately this is not the case.

Tru Dat.
but b/c I is a paraniod person I still woulds move them although I do understand that the victimization card would be use.
In most of the Western world when a Gov change there is a tendency to clean house, I guess that why I feel that our gov should do the same. I really wish the our people could be more nuetral and objective when it come to carryin out the affairs and the governance of our country but unfortunately this is not the case.

Nobody does a good job when they thing they are a permanent fixture.

People should be known as 'Temporary Secretaries' and 'Public Servants' because they aren't always so civil!

That's the tight spot there. What do you do when the last PS was appointed by the last administration? If the PS would not have shouted, the PLP would have said VICTIMIZATION.
I say "victimize" the heck outta the whole lot and fire them! It's not vicitimisation when I have a file cabinet full of your misdeeds and conduct. They better pray I don't reprort their thieving tales to the lawman! :hammer:
But you don't have to push anyone out really you know. You keep them there becasue some are still valuable, and then they can't say that your party have victimized in that office. But what you do is to research, make youself aware of all the major thing that have happened behind the doors of your ministry at least 5 years prior to your appointment, from documents, random questions. YOU be aware of "how da ting does go" so that you make the right decision that is preserves your behind, and your reputation as at least competent.
Chancy,

This is where you show your youthful heart, full of hope and enthusiasm. The major problem with our government is the stagnation in these departments/Ministries. People with no skill and no drive have been allowed to fester in positions as though it is their RIGHT to remain their until death.

Some of them are so bold they will proudly proclaim there unwllingness to be trained and the fact that you can't fire them.

We need to clean house. From the PS's the the guys responsible for picking up trash at the parks.

Wen da forma minista a local guvmen do da tv news interview da day he resign he post in da HOA, he gee werds a wisdom ta he politrickal colleagues...cross t, dot i, an read...

Dis did make muh wonda iffen da rookie minista eva did read da local guvmen ack fa starters. Nex, takin advice from he PS cos him geh :taped2: But den he mitena lissen ta he PS cos da PS new ta da ministree too...[flippin coin - an askin head or tail], who ya figgee shud understan da law best :taped2:...

Besides, iffen muh rememberance serve muh rite, da minista a da forma guvmen had similar issues...wat was da outcome [openin da pandora box]??

Doe da opposishun tryin ta take credit...tis really kudos ta dem couple islan folk wat edumakated bout da ack/process an insted a arggiein wit him take he hip ta court...da res is historee...BAM...victoree in da court den HOA amendin der law...

In all fairness to Collie, he was just following the same procedure and presedence that was established in 2002 and in 2005 to hold the Local Gov election during those times. He also had to be advise by the P.S. who was responsible and held past election under the same criteria that this was done when the PLP was in power and the PLP knows this.
So in my view they are playing pure politics with local gov because this is the exact same format they use for 02 and 05.
Mrs. Hanna-martin in my view is a pure Hypocrite.
Foolishness so you being complicit in this, it doesnt matter if they been following this procedure from Adam and Eve days if it was wrong then it shouldnt have been done. So, if the light red and a bunch of cars in front of me and all dem run the light, so i gone to do da same but 5-0 pull me over, i could use as a defense . "Sir you ain see all dem udder cars what run the light" as a valid excuse. If he did the right thing this would have not been an issue. So are you insinuating that the PLP set mr collie up or you tryin to put blame on dem plp aye. I see why things in this kuntry so backward, we dont mind when people do the wrong thing especially if others have been doin it. I see why dese gubments have they mindsets, the people dont care bout accountability. They thinkin right now, well if the former gubment wasnt gud for the people dem why should we be:hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer:
Come on, enuff of this bag of foolishness. it never looks gud when you try to defend someone by stating that other people did the same. only problem is, its not about those others

What I find so interesting is that why when Christie was doing the things people like Martin later complained about after they lost, did she put the pressure on him. She sat in his Cabinet, never said a word and all of a sudden has now found her voice. Give me a break! No creditibility at all. In fact it's people like her who should aopologise and then resign. Ha, we know that will never happen! I hear Damian Gomez so upset, cause she trying to take the legal victory as hers. The PLP need to purge and come back with a whole new team, just maybe then people will take them seriously.
Please quote when she said or implied that the outcome of the ruling is a wictory for she. i heard and read that she said it was a wictory for democracy in the cuntry