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YorickBrown
07-30-08, - 07:04 AM
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generalcrazy
07-30-08, - 07:15 AM
cant stand vista, it makes me wanna :footmouth

Objective thought
07-30-08, - 07:47 AM
cant stand vista, it makes me wanna :footmouth
I second that!!:realmad::realmad::realmad::realmad:

I want nothing to do with it!!

YorickBrown
07-30-08, - 07:59 AM
I'll reserve comments for later. But let's see who else jumps on the anti-Vista Bandwagon.

androsann
07-30-08, - 08:01 AM
I'll reserve comments for later. But let's see who else jumps on the anti-Vista Bandwagon.
Me! I really do not like it!

YorickBrown
07-30-08, - 08:06 AM
Me! I really do not like it!Actually, be sure to be specific as to why you have the opinion of Vista that you do - Features, Speed, functionality, program compatibility etc...

androsann
07-30-08, - 08:11 AM
Actually, be sure to be specific as to why you have the opinion of Vista that you do - Features, Speed, functionality, program compatibility etc...
The main reason that I dislike it so much is that you have to bypass all of the warning screens to be able to do anything, slightly tweaky :) It is much worse than XP for that and really slows me down when trying to make adjustments to systems.

I also have an issue with lack of compatibility with software and hardware and that is after it has been out for so long.

generalcrazy
07-30-08, - 08:33 AM
vista? might as well just use a mac. :bouncy::bouncy:
XP still rules :driving: :sailing:

Da Clique
07-30-08, - 10:16 AM
Multi-tasking is literally my life, without that ability to do several important functions simultaneously is not a pleasant place for me. The tools that I employ to asist with daily activities must satisfactorily meet (3) minimum benchmarks:
1. Speed- able to function above normal limits, time is money.
2. Strength-able to maintain extra work loads whenever necessary.
3. Accuracy-able to perform duties with minimal error.

My current Vista sags below the benchmarks on all accounts disappointingly. Someone told me “simply get a Mac-OS”, my thoughts are; would I also have to change some of my hardware?

biggy
07-30-08, - 10:16 AM
I don't like the amount of memory it takes to run it.That in itself seems to make it not very efficient.

YorickBrown
07-30-08, - 10:29 AM
The main reason that I dislike it so much is that you have to bypass all of the warning screens to be able to do anything, slightly tweaky :) It is much worse than XP for that and really slows me down when trying to make adjustments to systems.
Easily solved. If you wish to disable that feature (and thus have a less secure system), then here's how to disable the UAC in a few steps:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-user-account-control-uac-the-easy-way-on-windows-vista/

(Many of the minor "inconveniences" can be turned off with a few clicks, so if you have any more, let me know)


I also have an issue with lack of compatibility with software and hardware and that is after it has been out for so long.A common misconception in the computer industry, especially on the PC side is that software should work on any version of an OS. Such is not the case if one wants to guarantee maximum stability and security.

A quick look on the Apple side of things shows in many instances that some software will not even allow you to install it if the OS version is not up to date. Apple users have become acclimated to this over the years and it's a non issue for them at this point. They often completely disregard this "forced software updating", despite the fact that it is one of the primary reasons why the OS is often hailed as one of the most stable out there.

With Vista, Microsoft finally took a similar, but obviously more flexible approach and finally recoded the entire OS in a way that held programmers to a higher standard (of security in particular). Even though MS extensively pushed its Application Compatibility Kit, many software companies didn't want to spend money re-coding and patching their applications and/or drivers. They preferred to wait and see how well Vista was doing.

It became a vicious cycle because people didn't want to buy Vista because of program incompatibility and conversely companies didn't want to re-code their software because people were not buying Vista. Some companies still haven't caught up and are allowing Vista to get the bum rap in the meantime, although running the Program Compatibility Assistant (http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/82c0440d-553e-47e9-b4bd-6c2d10df4de71033.mspx) works well in some situations.

In terms of hardware, no one should upgrade to Vista without first downloading and running the Vista Upgrade Advisor (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/get/upgrade-advisor.aspx). If building a PC from scratch, the Vista Hardware Compatibility List (http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/ed1e3b7d-5ea7-4ad3-be3f-af29f7b48dde1033.mspx?mfr=true) is a must read. Many PC technicians have had their egos squashed by a driver that was incompatible or not supported by Vista (even when it "installed" with no errors). Instead of admitting their mistake though, many techs simply were lazy and called Vista a failure whenever they got a blue screen or something didn't work as they thought it would. My response to those techs is, "No, Vista isn't a failure. You failed to RTFM."

Vista has changed the way techs need to look at hardware as well. With XP you could put in a relatively fast CPU and 2 Gigabytes of RAM and you had yourself a good machine. With Vista, if that configuration includes a weak graphics card and a slow HD, the system WILL crawl. Front side bus speeds, graphics card memory/speed and whether you use a serial ATA HD, all play a factor in the performance of the OS. Vista needs solid hardware throughout to run effectively, not just "more RAM" or a "faster processor".

Gone are the days (at least for another year or two) when a tech could simply load the OS on the box and expect everything to work flawlessly, UNLESS he/she did their research. After all, it is an Operating System and not just a simple application.

If the techs were having problems because of their lackadaisical attitudes towards learning as much as they could about the OS, one can only imagine what the end users thought if even their "tech guru" told them nonchalantly that "Vista is crappy". We are supposed to be the front line, but yet we haven't been holding up our end of the bargain.

I run Vista on a few of my average systems flawlessly. I just did my research and didn't listen to the noise in the market.

l_bones
07-30-08, - 11:17 AM
i agree with yorick to a certain extent. maybe Vista is trying to be like Apple, where they know all their hardware works together and is rigorously tested prior to releasing the hardware/software combo (hence why you can't easily build your own).

however, i agree with the rest of the world when saying Vista just plain sucks. I have all brand new hardware (when purchased) all compatible with Vista and each other and the sound doesn't work, half of video won't play, I can't run CAD or my propriety software (worked the first few days, then decided it didn't want to anymore) and so my newly built powerhouse machine is nothing more than an email/web/MSoffice computer. wohooo!

I need to downgrade to XP...next time in the states I will pickup an OEM version of XP Pro, because for some reason Bahamians think they should tack on 200% profit to anything they can. :realmad:

maxwell
07-30-08, - 11:32 AM
i agree with yorick to a certain extent. maybe Vista is trying to be like Apple, where they know all their hardware works together and is rigorously tested prior to releasing the hardware/software combo (hence why you can't easily build your own).
however, i agree with the rest of the world when saying Vista just plain sucks. I have all brand new hardware (when purchased) all compatible with Vista and each other and the sound doesn't work, half of video won't play, I can't run CAD or my propriety software (worked the first few days, then decided it didn't want to anymore) and so my newly built powerhouse machine is nothing more than an email/web/MSoffice computer. wohooo!
I need to downgrade to XP...next time in the states I will pickup an OEM version of XP Pro, because for some reason Bahamians think they should tack on 200% profit to anything they can. :realmad:
some!!!! vista versions are able to be downgraded to XP, may be your vista version is able to downgrade to xp, check it out.
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watsayu
07-30-08, - 11:46 AM
Me! I really do not like it!Second !!!!

YorickBrown
07-30-08, - 01:54 PM
however, i agree with the rest of the world when saying Vista just plain sucks. I have all brand new hardware (when purchased) all compatible with Vista and each other and the sound doesn't work, half of video won't play, I can't run CAD or my propriety software (worked the first few days, then decided it didn't want to anymore) and so my newly built powerhouse machine is nothing more than an email/web/MSoffice computer. wohooo!With a situation like that, something is definitely wrong, but I would doubt it's Vista. The fact that your CAD software worked for a few days, shows that something happened to make things stop working.

Most of the time it's something relatively minor - hardware failure, bec/voltage issue, a driver/software conflict, or something that was loaded.

Did you let anyone else look at it before you made your conclusion?