Archbishop of the Province of the West Indies and the Diocesan of the Bahamas, Drexel Gomez, left just a few short weeks ago for the 2008 Lambeth Conference. This gathering, described as a "family reunion", happens but once a decade and draws all the world's Anglican bishops to Canterbury, England. Conspicuously, a number of African Bishops have opted out of the "family reunion", refusing to mingle with gay-friendly bishops. The church is being fractured by the issue of homosexuals in the clergy with liberal clergy supporting a move to include gays in the ministry, while hard-line conservatives, including Gomez, threaten to leave the communion if such a move was to be fully ratified.


Today, while the Lambeth Conference is going on, Davis Mac-Iyalla has been granted political asylum in the United Kingdom. What relevance does this have? For the past few years Mac-Iyalla has been disowned, smeared, denigrated and even had his life threatened. His transgression? Three years ago he organized a pro-gay Anglican group called Changing Attitudes. The Nigerian Church, so offended by his efforts, sought to destroy him. So displeased was the church that they first attempted to deny there were any GLBT people in Nigeria to begin with and then falsely accused Mac-Iyalla of crimes which he did not commit. When Changing Attitudes had their first meeting the church first said that no meeting had actually occurred and then that it was attended by an insignificant number of undesirables. This is despite the fact that reporters had pictures of the meeting showing quite a significant crowd.


The smear tactics have been endless against Mac-Iyalla, and in the face of their failure the Archbishop of the Anglican Church Peter Akinola even supported a bill in the Nigerian Parliament prohibiting the gathering of GLBT persons or their friends. Inciting violence and discrimination against gays has become part and parcel of the church's opposition to the debated going on within the Anglican communion. Throughout Africa, senior Anglican Church officials have continuously partnered with political figures to perpetuate anti-gay scapegoating for the maintenance of power and privilege. The light of Christ shines brightly, it seems...


It saddens me to think that this is who Archbishop Gomez has decided to side with. Half of my family is Anglican and I attended an Anglican high school. I understand the deep traditions of the Anglican Church and can understand how the current debates can be painful and divisive. In the same vain, as a gay man I do not believe we should force religious communities to accept who we are. I do not expect the Anglican Church to readily open their arms to us, although I hope one day they will. I do however expect the church to hold to the principles of Christ. The Nigerian Church has taken an immoral, inhumane and un-Christian road to make its point clear and I am ashamed that Archbishop Gomez can, with a clear conscience, stand with them.


*****kat Meow
www.pkmeow.blogspot.com

Archbishop of the Province of the West Indies and the Diocesan of the Bahamas, Drexel Gomez, left just a few short weeks ago for the 2008 Lambeth Conference. This gathering, described as a "family reunion", happens but once a decade and draws all the world's Anglican bishops to Canterbury, England. Conspicuously, a number of African Bishops have opted out of the "family reunion", refusing to mingle with gay-friendly bishops. The church is being fractured by the issue of homosexuals in the clergy with liberal clergy supporting a move to include gays in the ministry, while hard-line conservatives, including Gomez, threaten to leave the communion if such a move was to be fully ratified.


Today, while the Lambeth Conference is going on, Davis Mac-Iyalla has been granted political asylum in the United Kingdom. What relevance does this have? For the past few years Mac-Iyalla has been disowned, smeared, denigrated and even had his life threatened. His transgression? Three years ago he organized a pro-gay Anglican group called Changing Attitudes. The Nigerian Church, so offended by his efforts, sought to destroy him. So displeased was the church that they first attempted to deny there were any GLBT people in Nigeria to begin with and then falsely accused Mac-Iyalla of crimes which he did not commit. When Changing Attitudes had their first meeting the church first said that no meeting had actually occurred and then that it was attended by an insignificant number of undesirables. This is despite the fact that reporters had pictures of the meeting showing quite a significant crowd.


The smear tactics have been endless against Mac-Iyalla, and in the face of their failure the Archbishop of the Anglican Church Peter Akinola even supported a bill in the Nigerian Parliament prohibiting the gathering of GLBT persons or their friends. Inciting violence and discrimination against gays has become part and parcel of the church's opposition to the debated going on within the Anglican communion. Throughout Africa, senior Anglican Church officials have continuously partnered with political figures to perpetuate anti-gay scapegoating for the maintenance of power and privilege. The light of Christ shines brightly, it seems...


It saddens me to think that this is who Archbishop Gomez has decided to side with. Half of my family is Anglican and I attended an Anglican high school. I understand the deep traditions of the Anglican Church and can understand how the current debates can be painful and divisive. In the same vain, as a gay man I do not believe we should force religious communities to accept who we are. I do not expect the Anglican Church to readily open their arms to us, although I hope one day they will. I do however expect the church to hold to the principles of Christ. The Nigerian Church has taken an immoral, inhumane and un-Christian road to make its point clear and I am ashamed that Archbishop Gomez can, with a clear conscience, stand with them.


*****kat Meow
www.pkmeow.blogspot.com
I do understand your postion, but I agree with the archbishop Gomez. It is a choice you people have made to be engage with your own sex (male or female) no matter now sick it sounds and seems to me. I attend an anglican church and there are people of your type in our church but they have to stay quiet at my church. My sister church seems to allowed them to parade up and down and to be active members. My Archdeacon dont play with that. He told them right up front he only has a male and female restrooms and they will have to stay in their corner. He invites them each week that they like many others needs to seek Jesus and move closer to our Lord and Saviour.:realmad:

You sound as if you are suprised at the "stance" that Drexy took...

Pkmeow this issue will run for a long time to come. It is causing waves here in the UK, and in the mean, this is a very liberal society but that seems to exclude quite a lot of the communicants unfortunately. I too worship at a Church of England for 20yrs now as my husband is so affiliated (he was CoE educated as well) but I was brought up a Baptist. Personally, I think the Africans are talking nonsense as homosexuals are to be found where-ever humans dwell. They pretend to be so holy but still refuse to desist from believing in their Fetishes and Juju.

The unaccepting nature of the clergy in the CoE has caused several of my colleagues and friends to leave the church because they said to me they are better off with people who have no affiliation with organised religions. Things were so bad for my son's God-father in Nassau that he try very hard to hide his sexuality all of his life and in the end moved away to the USA where he felt more free to be himself. Christians, and in particular those who are attending the Synod at the Bishop's Palace, need to remember who they are representing there .....Christ. It will also do them no harm to be like him and accept ALL who come to him in Faith. A neighbour I grew up next door to and who claims to be A Man of The Cloth but has no manners for his own Dad, told me that God will have nothing to do with Gays/Lesbians/Transgendered individuals ...
1- I don't know why God spoke to him and not me
2- if that is the case why did he make them that way. Ye without sin cast the First Stone!!!

Pkmeow this issue will run for a long time to come. It is causing waves here in the UK, and in the mean, this is a very liberal society but that seems to exclude quite a lot of the communicants unfortunately. I too worship at a Church of England for 20yrs now as my husband is so affiliated (he was CoE educated as well) but I was brought up a Baptist. Personally, I think the Africans are talking nonsense as homosexuals are to be found where-ever humans dwell. They pretend to be so holy but still refuse to desist from believing in their Fetishes and Juju.
The unaccepting nature of the clergy in the CoE has caused several of my colleagues and friends to leave the church because they said to me they are better off with people who have no affiliation with organised religions. Things were so bad for my son's God-father in Nassau that he try very hard to hide his sexuality all of his life and in the end moved away to the USA where he felt more free to be himself. Christians, and in particular those who are attending the Synod at the Bishop's Palace, need to remember who they are representing there .....Christ. It will also do them no harm to be like him and accept ALL who come to him in Faith. A neighbour I grew up next door to and who claims to be A Man of The Cloth but has no manners for his own Dad, told me that God will have nothing to do with Gays/Lesbians/Transgendered individuals ...
1- I don't know why God spoke to him and not me
2- if that is the case why did he make them that way. Ye without sin cast the First Stone!!!Pure fally a dis!

Pure fally a dis!
so then how is it we exist???
and when did you choose to stop being gay???

They only uses the principals when it befits the anglican priest .... Archdeacon or no Archdeacon rules are the rules

Boi and they say the Roman Catholic Church gat issues.

They only uses the principals when it befits the anglican priest .... Archdeacon or no Archdeacon rules are the rules

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BI people stink nah...My gawd!!...LOL

BI people stink nah...My gawd!!...LOL
Need to change ya video, it no longer awailable:angel::angel::):):):taped2::footmouth:jawdroop::jawdroop::realmad::rea lmad:
n meow need to shorten dat n paragraph n space. you faget dis bi aye most of we get add so after the 1st paragraph we does lose focus i ya add sum piksure's then we attention span gone be lil longer:hammer::hammer::jawdroop::jawdroop:

I do understand your postion, but I agree with the archbishop Gomez. It is a choice you people have made to be engage with your own sex (male or female) no matter now sick it sounds and seems to me. I attend an anglican church and there are people of your type in our church but they have to stay quiet at my church. My sister church seems to allowed them to parade up and down and to be active members. My Archdeacon dont play with that. He told them right up front he only has a male and female restrooms and they will have to stay in their corner. He invites them each week that they like many others needs to seek Jesus and move closer to our Lord and Saviour.:realmad:

I get where the Archbishop is coming from but I mean jeeezzz man. The way these Bishops have been carrying on...lying on people, encouraging their members to be less than Christ-like toward gays. If the Archbishop wants to oppose gays in the church, I'm fine with that quite frankly I don't care. But the Nigerian Bishops taken such measures is inexcusable....

Need to change ya video, it no longer awailable:angel::angel::):):):taped2::footmouth:jawdroop::jawdroop::realmad::rea lmad:
n meow need to shorten dat n paragraph n space. you faget dis bi aye most of we get add so after the 1st paragraph we does lose focus i ya add sum piksure's then we attention span gone be lil longer:hammer::hammer::jawdroop::jawdroop:
Speak for yourself...please. Thanks much...

Speak for yourself...please. Thanks much...
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I get where the Archbishop is coming from but I mean jeeezzz man. The way these Bishops have been carrying on...lying on people, encouraging their members to be less than Christ-like toward gays. If the Archbishop wants to oppose gays in the church, I'm fine with that quite frankly I don't care. But the Nigerian Bishops taken such measures is inexcusable....
And, IMHO, "inexcusable" is the perfect word to describe the good Archbishop's stance on the gay issues. He, as well as most Anglicans in the Bahamas are very cognisant of the fact that gays exist within the Anglican Church in the the Archdiocese of Nassau and the Bahamas. There are a number of priests, an Archdeacon, and possibly a bishop within this diocese who are homosexually oriented or perhaps actually practising homosexuals. And of course, lets not forget the many members of the Anglican Faith who are practising homosexuals and parade up and down the aisle in their gowns... sorry, I meant to say vestments, yes, I believe that is the religious word for them. (Hell, I now see the Baptist them now wearing these same gowns as well; I guess the gays are there too, hmmmmmmmm?):taped2:

So, IMHO, for the good Archbishop to take such a viewpoint at the "homecoming" at Lambeth, and keep a straight face, is hypercritical. What the bible say? Something about taking the bee-bee out of your eye first, before you try taking the bee-bee out of someone else's eye? Well, you religious fanatics know where I am coming from... :hammer:

Matthew 7:1-5 ESV / (For clarification)
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.