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BARF
03-13-03, - 10:30 AM
What is the FTAA?

The FTAA is an effort by corporations and governments in the Western Hemisphere to form a trade region for corporate expansion and “free trade.” It will be compliant with the World Trade Organization and allow corporations to make profits at the expense of worker’s rights, public health and the sanctity of the environment.

Our Mandate:

We believe that not since the abolition of slavery would such an initiative change the political, social and economic landscape of the Bahamas. Accordingly, because our constitution is one where our government serves and the people govern, we are calling on the government to hold a Referendum on the Bahamas’ joining the FTAA.

We propose to petition the government with signatures of Bahamians across the length and breadth of the Bahamas as well as the world demanding a referendum on this most important issue.

We will conduct numerous seminars up and down the country to individual sectors of the Bahamas to make them aware of how our inclusion of the FTAA will affect them. We believe that this is the most effective way for Bahamians to understand in a very personal way the ramifications of FTAA.

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Our View:

Currently, the government of the Bahamas has reserved the following business for Bahamians only:

- Wholesale and Retail Operations;
- Commission agencies engaged in the import / export trade;
- Real estate and domestic property management agencies;
- Domestic newspapers and magazine publications;
- Domestic advertising and public relations firms;
- Nightclubs and restaurants, except specialty, gourmet and ethnic restaurants, restaurants operating in a hotel, resort complex or tourist attraction;
- Security services;
- Domestic distribution of building supplies;
- Construction companies, except for special structures for which international expertise is required;
- Personal cosmetic / beauty establishments;
- Shallow water scale-fish, crustacea, mollusks and sponge-fishing operations;
- Auto and appliance service operations;
- Public Transportation

All of the above will no longer be exclusive to Bahamians if we agree to FTAA!

You have heard that there will be no free movement of people…and this may be true. But this FTAA will allow for movement of capital and employment to cross borders. All of us know that they will follow their money with their people. The agreement allows for companies to provide goods and services and if the Bahamas joins FTAA you will see mass migration here.

- Fishermen, imagine the Dominicans and Hondurans competing with you and in many cases out fishing you;
- Taxi drivers, imagine Yellow Cabs owned by a company in the US competing with you for fares from the 4 million tourist that visit this country;
- Straw vendors, imagine other vendors from the south Caribbean competing directly with you selling craft;
- Bahamian professional firms, imagine competing with other professionals from say New York competing directly with you in the Bahamas for fees.

BARF is of the view that the FTAA gives no real advantage for the Bahamas. We believe that in order for us to be in a position to have some advantage our economy has to first of all be opened to all Bahamians before we can allow the full avalanche of FTAA. When we say open, we are talking about the removal of exchange control for Bahamians as we do for non-Bahamians and investors here. This will allow us to access capital and investments on a leveled playing field. It is pointless for us to open our country until we would have had an opportunity to complete on this level. To do otherwise, would be like the Hawaiians but instead of wearing grass skirts and a flower ban at the airport and dancing the hulu, we will be dancing the Vola Shuffle and making junkanoo parades on Bay Street while our economy is possessed by other than Bahamians. This is not the kind of Bahamas our ancestors died for or our children will be proud of.

We have a duty to protect the Bahamas for our children and for those unborn Bahamians. If the majority of the eligible voters vote in favour of our joining the FTAA that will be fine. All we want is to have the opportunity to have vote on this issue so that at the end of the day the government will speak to the international community with one voice knowing that the majority of the people would have spoken.

Please feel free to post your comments on this issue.

Druggy
03-13-03, - 05:06 PM
Interesting.

Does The Bahamas really have a choice in the matter?

Everyone in the world sees what is hapenning between the U.S. and Europe, namely Germany and France. The ice of the Cold War is back, and it's growing - fast.

I know this might not be the same as a trade agreement, but when you disagree with the sole super-power of the world, it sparks their arrogance and spite. The Bahamas has no economic stance whatsoever, except for sunny beaches and a few hotels.

You're talking about job security and competition from foreigners who do twice the work in half the time for the same wages or LESS.

There are millions of overqualified and unemployed individuals around the globe who would love to come to Nassau and steal every single Bahamian's job.

What do you think would be the disadvantages and repurcussions from not joining the FTAA, and what exactly are the rules of immigration and foreign businesses?

Joe Baboon
03-13-03, - 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Druggy
There are millions of overqualified and unemployed individuals around the globe who would love to come to Nassau and steal every single Bahamian's job.


Do you mean that... oh my God, I can't believe that you would suggest that... Dare I say it... that a Bahamian might actually need to be... Is it really possible... PRODUCTIVE at work?

Workers in this country need to wake up and realize that the office is not a place to socialize and gab on the phone all day. Your employer pays you for your time, the least you can do is give them a true days work. It sickens me to walk in to a store to purchase something and wait five minutes or more for the receptionist to get off the phone with her daughter/mother/boyfriend/husband. I won't even mention the things I have seen in govt. offices. Even if the FTAA does not happen here, we need to wake the hell up, and start trying to be competitive with the rest of the world.

classicromeo22
03-13-03, - 08:17 PM
HA HA HA literally
Joe baboon my sincerest thanks to your veiws
You are truly qualified as a light hearted inteligent human

Rory
03-16-03, - 03:26 AM
yep, im just glad i work for myself, and noone else works for me, cause its hard to find good workers here, unfortunately.

BARF
03-17-03, - 12:41 PM
The Bahamas has a choice in whether or not we join FTAA and so do the other countries. The FTAA was announced by the Americans and you know it is in their interest. What we are saying is that we must act in our best interest.

The FTAA will be NAFTA plus. This means that it will include the provisions of NAFTA and not less. To see the disavantages of FTAA we need just look at NAFTA where more than 8 million Mexicans now live in poverty since the agreement came into force, more than 1 million have lost thier jobs and millions more work for less than their minimum wage of $3.40 per hour.

This has not helped the Mexicans. It has help though Big Business where they look for cheap labour to exploit them and then sell their goods on the world market thereby making huge profits.

If we join the FTAA, the environment of the Bahamas will be destoyed. Under NAFTA, a US based company sued the Canadian government for passing a law banning a substance of which the US company produced. The substance caused damage to the human nervous system once it leaked into the ground. Because NAFTA and also FTAA will penalise countries if they pass laws which impede the profits of companies the US company sued the Canadian government and not only won US$13 million, but the government apologized to them! Can you imagine that? The question is, can the Bahamas afford to pay any company $13million? What about when a company comes here to fish and use methods that may destroy our reefs...the government may be sued if they try to stop it!

The FTAA requires national treatment for all member states. This means that everybody will be on equal terms. Therefore, if a contract because available in Haiti, Bahamians can also apply and will be allowed to fulfill the contract if they win the bidding process.

For more on the FTAA Agreement please see www.ftaa-alca.org. For a Bahamas perspective, please see www.landfallcentre.com.

BARF

Neo
03-21-03, - 10:55 PM
I know its scary but I think FTAA is an inevitability that we should prepare ourselves for. Its scary because deep down, allot of us know that we, Bahamians are not as competitve as we should be. This is all dependent upon the reality that we are not committed to excellence as a people, instead, we have adopted mediocrity as a part of our culture.

If this thing goes to a referendum, the will of the majority will be made known, and I do not believe that the majority understands the complexity of the matter. This is a decision to be made by competent Bahamian visionaries and world thinkers. It is a task of the minority who can act on reason and not out of fear. However, it can only be done by beginning the efforts to truly sensitize, educate, and ready the Bahamian people for the new world order. And what is this new world order one may ask? It is simply, the interdependence of globalization. Trade is the first step but indeed it leaves room and will give way to humanitarianism. So let us prepare ourselves for the inevitable and use this opportunity to understand the real meaning behind, "Forward, Upward, Onward Together!"

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shalomppresence
03-24-03, - 10:06 AM
Baboon

Tell it like it is. It's time for Bahamians to wake up and smell the coffee. The Vacation is over, It's now time for work and productivity.

BARF
03-24-03, - 10:41 AM
We agree that Bahamians must work to the required level. However, this is not an excuse for us to join the FTAA. We can increase our productivity out side of this agreement. One must note that the FTAA will allow Bahamians to work in the other 33 countries and similarly, others will be allowed to work here. Not because for example, persons in Haiti will be prepared to work for their $290. per capita annual income in the Bahamas, means that Bahamians must do so. We must remember that poor pay does not equate or translate into productivity.

The Bahamas must decide to allow the FTAA. And even if it is the choice of a few intellectuals, we must be democratic to include every one in the decision process. If the FTAA's benefits out weight its disadvantages, then the average person will have no difficulty in agreeing for it and voting Yes in a referendum. You cannot deny them this by suggesting that they are not competent to understand.

Nubian Goddess
10-19-03, - 10:54 AM
Not 2 be lil off rite but wanna ask a question feel free to send me and e-mail 2 answer me. But if the FTAA was to come into affect how will this generally affect the Customs Department???????????:dgi:

germantiger
10-19-03, - 07:16 PM
It hurts my soul and my eye when I see and read that some people are even too lazy to write their messages in proper English. Can you imagine where you will be if FTAA is implemented, do you really think, a foreign company is going to hire you, Nubian Goddess? I wouldn't.




Not 2 be lil off rite but wanna ask a question feel free to send me and e-mail 2 answer me. But if the FTAA was to come into affect how will this generally affect the Customs Department???????????:dgi:

Nubian Goddess
10-21-03, - 09:00 PM
excuse you but i am a 16 yr old 12 grade student at St.Johns College " the distinguish school of choice" i am doin a course work paper on the Customs Department and what i asked was relevent. Jus because i shortened a few words does not mean nothing i'm jus tryin to do my course work and collecting the relevent information i need 2 complete it. how i am speakin now has nothing to do with you.i jus need a few answers so i could get on with my life and become the successful accountant that i want to be. u dont kno me so dont assume that i speak like this all the time when on the net u type short hand if u dont kno and if u r not goin 2 answer my question back off plz. cuz u dont kno me. and when i graduate i will graduate with honours and the FTAA will hire me!!!!!:)

Delroy
10-22-03, - 02:05 AM
excuse you but i am a 16 yr old 12 grade student at St.Johns College " the distinguish school of choice" i am doin a course work paper on the Customs Department and what i asked was relevent. Jus because i shortened a few words does not mean nothing i'm jus tryin to do my course work and collecting the relevent information i need 2 complete it. how i am speakin now has nothing to do with you.i jus need a few answers so i could get on with my life and become the successful accountant that i want to be. u dont kno me so dont assume that i speak like this all the time when on the net u type short hand if u dont kno and if u r not goin 2 answer my question back off plz. cuz u dont kno me. and when i graduate i will graduate with honours and the FTAA will hire me!!!!!:)
Good for you Nubian Goddess :)
The FTAA I am sure will affect almost every industry we have here in the Bahamas.
When it comes to the Customs Department I think the area that would be most affected is the removal of duty on imports. This is why the call it “Free Trade”.
I hope you ace your course and let us know what you came up with.
To find out more about how the FTAA will affect the Bahamas click here: www.barfbahamas.org (http://www.barfbahamas.org) .

Welcome to Bahamas Issues.

Nubian Goddess
10-22-03, - 04:36 PM
Good for you Nubian Goddess :)
The FTAA I am sure will affect almost every industry we have here in the Bahamas.
When it comes to the Customs Department I think the area that would be most affected is the removal of duty on imports. This is why the call it “Free Trade”.
I hope you ace your course and let us know what you came up with.
To find out more about how the FTAA will affect the Bahamas click here: www.barfbahamas.org (http://www.barfbahamas.org/) .

Welcome to Bahamas Issues.
thank u so much for that information and i will be sure to let u know how i did on my course work:bye:

Nubian Goddess
10-22-03, - 04:38 PM
if u have any more information on the question i asked please feel free to inform me thanks