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YardManPickney
08-13-08, - 02:27 PM
I was just going to ask that.
me 3? what was the ruling? when did this happen?

Well Muddo
08-13-08, - 02:28 PM
Lyons handed down an injunction late yesterday that basically bars any further industrial action by the BCPOU or BCPMU or risk personal imprisonment, loss of property, fines etc. Farqui wouldn't risk the latter two, even if he wanted to show off and be a martyr by being arrested, the property part is a deal breaker.

Brown Suga
08-13-08, - 02:29 PM
I was just going to ask that.
me 3? what was the ruling? when did this happen?
No answer yet....where's Well Muddo?

Is he too busy PMing Concerned to answer us??

Sunnyjohn
08-13-08, - 02:31 PM
Lyons handed down an injunction late yesterday that basically bars any further industrial action by the BCPOU or BCPMU or risk personal imprisonment, loss of property, fines etc. Farqui would risk the latter two, even if he wanted to show off and be a martyr by being arrested, the property part is a deal breaker.

Did Lyons say anything about having them arrested for using BTC vechicles illegally in this strike? At least lock them up for theft of government property, vandalism, (i.e, the gas, sabotaging the trucks)....

Brown Suga
08-13-08, - 02:32 PM
Lyons handed down an injunction late yesterday that basically bars any further industrial action by the BCPOU or BCPMU or risk personal imprisonment, loss of property, fines etc. Farqui would risk the latter two, even if he wanted to show off and be a martyr by being arrested, the property part is a deal breaker.
Thnx...ignor my last post! :angel::)

Brown Suga
08-13-08, - 02:33 PM
Did Lyons say anything about having them arrested for using BTC vechicles illegally in this strike? At least lock them up for theft of government property, vandalism, (i.e, the gas, sabotaging the trucks)....
I think at the minimum gas should be repaid! 10 gallons of gas $60 from everyone's paycheck!

Techno-Bunny
08-13-08, - 02:34 PM
Lyons handed down an injunction late yesterday that basically bars any further industrial action by the BCPOU or BCPMU or risk personal imprisonment, loss of property, fines etc. Farqui wouldn't risk the latter two, even if he wanted to show off and be a martyr by being arrested, the property part is a deal breaker.

So that means they can't protest at all or they can't engage in any illegal demonstration or action? I don't agree with what they did, but I hope it only means that any further protests have to be legal that's all. I don't think I like the idea of an Australian (?) judge telling anyone that they can't demonstrate at all in our country do you?

Sunnyjohn
08-13-08, - 02:37 PM
The Australian judge is a duly appointed magistrate in our courts. He is acting as a representative of the Bahamian judiciary.

There are clear laws that outline how a union can go about registering and carrying out a legal strike.

If ya ask a few warrants fa arrest should been issue for dem bugga who let da debil fool dem ta park dem BTC car and trucks illegal on da Road den sabotage dem so dey couldn't be moved.

Well Muddo
08-13-08, - 02:42 PM
Because of the threats of protracted industrial unrest, and understanding the vital role that the BTC plays, the courts can act in the best interests of the state if actions would cause unreasonable harm to the country. This wouldn't preclude certain industrial actions, but definitely the type seen on Monday. Besides, is there any clause in the current industrial agreement between either union and the government that stipulates the nature of their involvement in any privatization negotiations. If not, their rationale for disrupting services is not supported by the terms of their industrial agreement.

Techno-Bunny
08-13-08, - 02:43 PM
The Australian judge is a duly appointed magistrate in our courts. He is acting as a representative of the Bahamian judiciary. There are clear laws that outline how a union can go about registering and carrying out a legal strike. If ya ask a few warrants fa arrest should been issue for dem bugga who let da debil fool dem ta park dem BTC car and trucks illegal on da Road den sabotage dem so dey couldn't be moved.

Gotcha. I still don't generally agree with the non-nationalistic approach that Lyons takes in some of his opinions, and I personally feel that he has a basic disregard/disrespect for Bahamians in general, but I understand what you are saying.

One other question though: How come the demonstration/motorcade in Freeport received a Police escort? If they were engaging in an illegal activity shouldn't the police have been locking them up not escorting them around the city like they were the PM or something? Thanks!

The Point
08-13-08, - 02:43 PM
The Australian judge is a duly appointed magistrate in our courts. He is acting as a representative of the Bahamian judiciary.
There are clear laws that outline how a union can go about registering and carrying out a legal strike.
If ya ask a few warrants fa arrest should been issue for dem bugga who let da debil fool dem ta park dem BTC car and trucks illegal on da Road den sabotage dem so dey couldn't be moved.

*pom poms in air* singing: "roll dem out....dun, dun, .... fire dem...tun, tun,..":bouncy:

Sunnyjohn
08-13-08, - 02:46 PM
*pom poms in air* singing: "roll dem out....dun, dun, .... fire dem...tun, tun,..":bouncy:
Point,

Jes seein dem BTC truck park up on da road when gas so dear yuk up my wex-a-shun!

If dey warn strike. let dem take dey own car ta park!! What next? Park da Ambulance and police car and Bahamas Air jet on Bay ta get ya way?

*suck teeth AND cut eye* :gi:

Lurker
08-13-08, - 03:37 PM
Lurker: Too interesting. Now I really can't wait to see how this situation all plays out.
However, is it really sound, humane business practice to have your employees so petrified and "running for cover" in order to have them stay in line, perform well and grow the organization? I don't know that much about business, but I'm sure that if you look at thriving corporations this is not the model they use for success.
You guys think BTC employees sullen, unresponsive and disgusting now? Just wait until the alleged planned "culture of submission not inclusion" really sets in!!!
I know if I were one of the few pleasant, productive and qualified emplyees there now, between the actions of the BCPOU and the philosophy of the govt/board, I would be preparing my resume looking for somewhere to work where I wouldn't have to exist in fear right now!

First of all, let me state that the atmosphere in BTC is positively rotten. Corruption is so endemic that employees are cowed and respond only to whom they perceive as the current top dogs in the power structure. For example, Vice president Henry is boffing (Sweethearting) Janet who previously was boffing Ellie, while another of couple vice presidents have sweetheart deals with outside vendors. In the meantime, Engineering gets all of their work done for them by Nortel, and the post-paid company will not co-operate in getting audited and leaks millions of dollars. Pre-paids are being skimmed by a layer of management.

Erryone gern have a crap when they found out that a Markham company, WireIE got an untendered contract to take over the Wifi. Especially Nortel will scream bloody murder when they find their business being taken away from them in spite of the bribes that they were forced to pay.

And as for the unions and Farquie, they know labour law. For example, after the sale of BTC, the new owners are not obliged to honour the union contract. Ther will be huge blood on the floor.

They also know that they are not legally required to keep any employees in place before the sale -- unless 50% of the new owners work force belong to the same union.

They also know the privatisation committee is looking for an established operator -- Not the Bluewater type. That way, the new operator can move in a ready cadre of trained employees to operate the company properly. The union knows all of this.

They know that after the sale, they can even be de-certified to represent BTC.

So the glory days for the unions are over. They are scum sucking pigs who live high off the dues of the ordinary worker.

And one more thing -- I'd like to correct a misconception stated here -- in fact, the privatisation committee has already met.

Sunnyjohn
08-13-08, - 03:39 PM
Lawd a mercy! Lurker talkin all da bidness!


FIRE DEM! FIRE DEM! FREE BATELCO!

Well Muddo
08-13-08, - 03:45 PM
You know so much, you must be on the privatization committee.