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concerned
08-17-08, - 10:18 PM
The "gospel of inclusion" seems to be popular these days. I think it's U.N. ordained. Well, you can only be included if you have received Jesus. All the scriptures you quoted "only" belong to those who have been born again. Christ is in all that have received Him.
I agree in spirit and in deed.

CommonSenseProphet
08-17-08, - 10:27 PM
I have one thing to ask, if that is true what about one of the parables that Yeshua told about the GOOD SAMARITIAN (hope me spelt it right) if thats not a great example of the brotherhood of man i dont know what is. Also if Yeshua is the figurehead of Christianity and he obviously showed by that parable that the brotherhood of man is not a bad thing how can his followers believe so.??

That parable is about loving your neighbor. If you truly love your neighbor you would help to get them on the right road. Many religious people are letting their neighbors go to hell because they say "I'm in, so forget these heathens". They will ignore the state they see them in and just keep on going. No! Love says help them get to The Lifesaviour Jesus and receive eternal life!

People think I am mad at them, but my love for them compels me to tell them the truth. Religion is not the answer, but only a relationship with God will truly bring you peace.

generalcrazy
08-17-08, - 11:22 PM
suk teet.

dat cud disloge dat tooth dred.

:bouncy::bouncy:

Lurker
08-17-08, - 11:38 PM
It would seem to me that anyone who is secure in their religion, as you seem to be, would not be threatened by “others.” In fact they would embrace them. They would live a life of example, not intolerance. They would live a life of inclusion not exclusion or separation.

Once again CG, you have uttered words of timeless wisdom, with much more tolerance than I. Your words are universal.

To whit:

It would seem to me that anyone who is secure in their _______________
would not be threatened by “others.”

Now lets fill in those blanks. Many many words fit.

1) religion
2) spirituality
3) sexuality
4) manhood
5) ethnicity
6) culture
7) social identification
8) nationalism
9) achievements
10) intellect
11) ego
12) self

Da Educator
08-17-08, - 11:57 PM
The Catholic Church is not anti-christ or supports anti-christ's teachings , philosophies or ideas. The Catholic Church like many other religious denominations just teaches and interprets the teachings of Jesus the Christ in a different way. Let us remember that jesus said upon this rock I build my church and Christianity was created and the first church to be established under christianity was the Roman Catholic Church which Saint Peter led and became what is known as the First Pope of the Church, This same St. Peter died while spreading the word of the christ and establishing the Roman Catholic Faith which still exists today.

YardManPickney
08-18-08, - 12:04 AM
i taught der first church was in Ethiopia.

Da Educator
08-18-08, - 12:07 AM
i taught der first church was in Ethiopia.

The first church established by jesus and led by Peter is the Roman Catholic Church.

YardManPickney
08-18-08, - 12:10 AM
The first church established by jesus and led by Peter is the Roman Catholic Church.
ver u get dis info from?

CommonSenseProphet
08-18-08, - 01:25 AM
The Catholic Church is not anti-christ or supports anti-christ's teachings , philosophies or ideas. The Catholic Church like many other religious denominations just teaches and interprets the teachings of Jesus the Christ in a different way. Let us remember that jesus said upon this rock I build my church and Christianity was created and the first church to be established under christianity was the Roman Catholic Church which Saint Peter led and became what is known as the First Pope of the Church, This same St. Peter died while spreading the word of the christ and establishing the Roman Catholic Faith which still exists today.

Sorry, but that is incorrect. Jesus was talking about the revelation knowledge given by God to Peter that He was the Christ. Christ said that He will build His church. The body of Christ is The Church not some religious orginization or denomination. God knows the difference between an apostle and a pope. That's why you don't find pope in the bible. It's impossible for Peter who was filled with the Holy Ghost and knew Jesus to start a religion contrary to His teachings. You don't have to be spiritual to understand that, just use some common sense.

Question? Who determines whether you have atained sainthood?

concerned
08-18-08, - 09:35 AM
The Catholic Church is not anti-christ or supports anti-christ's teachings , philosophies or ideas. The Catholic Church like many other religious denominations just teaches and interprets the teachings of Jesus the Christ in a different way. Let us remember that jesus said upon this rock I build my church and Christianity was created and the first church to be established under christianity was the Roman Catholic Church which Saint Peter led and became what is known as the First Pope of the Church, This same St. Peter died while spreading the word of the christ and establishing the Roman Catholic Faith which still exists today.
I see you missed the memo. Commonsenseprophet is the only one with true knowledge. It is his way and only his way so if he says the Catholic Church is the anti Christ and the pope is the devil then it is best just to agree. In his realm and in his scope there exists only what he believes; best just to leave him there with his brand of Christianity.

watsayu
08-18-08, - 10:04 AM
Sorry, but that is incorrect. Jesus was talking about the revelation knowledge given by God to Peter that He was the Christ. Christ said that He will build His church. The body of Christ is The Church not some religious orginization or denomination. God knows the difference between an apostle and a pope. That's why you don't find pope in the bible. It's impossible for Peter who was filled with the Holy Ghost and knew Jesus to start a religion contrary to His teachings. You don't have to be spiritual to understand that, just use some common sense.
Question? Who determines whether you have atained sainthood?Well since you said that you would not response to my post and I have to correct your view on the first Church, I now know that the world is a safe place...

In its orginal language and even in its translations scripture makes it clear as to when Jusus established his church... now the churches that came after the Catholic Church put their spin on the main point about Jesus estabilishing his church and whom he left as the head.. It was Peter and then the head was named the pope. The letters that paul wrote and the ways the church at that time solved their disagreements made this clear. Recall he one went to rome then came out with one accord....

and if you are concerned about how men and woman become saints... well.... just think about what Jesus said..... so read John John 20:4, remove the hate that you have for the Catholic Church from your heart and I know that you will come to understand....


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evansshop
08-18-08, - 10:32 AM
To : My Bahamian Citizen,
What a question to post. I would like to say on behalf of Bahamian Catholics Living in the United State, we are Proud of our Catholic Education Foundation that we go in the Bahamas ,of Religion and Education. When moving to the United it is Our Catholic Church Connection that help to connect every aspect... Job, immigration, education, tax problem, etc.
I am Proud to be a Bahamian Catholic! Can't continue, I have a job to go to!

CG
08-18-08, - 10:39 AM
To : My Bahamian Citizen,
What a question to post. I would like to say on behalf of Bahamian Catholics Living in the United State, we are Proud of our Catholic Education Foundation that we go in the Bahamas ,of Religion and Education. When moving to the United it is Our Catholic Church Connection that help to connect every aspect... Job, immigration, education, tax problem, etc.
I am Proud to be a Bahamian Catholic! Can't continue, I have a job to go to!
They have done a great job in education in general.

PS Welcome to the site.:)

watsayu
08-18-08, - 11:04 AM
To : My Bahamian Citizen,
What a question to post. I would like to say on behalf of Bahamian Catholics Living in the United State, we are Proud of our Catholic Education Foundation that we go in the Bahamas ,of Religion and Education. When moving to the United it is Our Catholic Church Connection that help to connect every aspect... Job, immigration, education, tax problem, etc.
I am Proud to be a Bahamian Catholic! Can't continue, I have a job to go to! Peace !!!... your experience is the reality of all of the faithful.... welcome to BI keep posting...

Lurker
08-18-08, - 12:05 PM
You'all know where I stand on religion. But I will say this -- the most stand-up cleric in the Bahamas is Archbishop Patrick Pinder.

He never has a political opinion. He stays out of the limelight. He is not rich. He is a quiet, well-spoken erudite man who does not yell sermons at his audience. He has never sought public funds as committee members, like the ArchHomophone Gomez who sucked at the teats of the public purse for 5 years or any of those other clerics who asked for political appointments. He doesn't sweetheart. He gives charitably and tries to leave everywhere a better place where his footsteps land. You cannot say that about any other cleric in the Bahamas.

He has obeyed the biblical directive of "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" -- in other words, leave temporal government matters alone.

He is the only cleric in the Bahamas who lives by the code. And that makes him a man among men.