You'all know where I stand on religion. But I will say this -- the most stand-up cleric in the Bahamas is Archbishop Patrick Pinder.
He never has a political opinion. He stays out of the limelight. He is not rich. He is a quiet, well-spoken erudite man who does not yell sermons at his audience. He has never sought public funds as committee members, like the ArchHomophone Gomez who sucked at the teats of the public purse for 5 years or any of those other clerics who asked for political appointments. He doesn't sweetheart. He gives charitably and tries to leave everywhere a better place where his footsteps land. You cannot say that about any other cleric in the Bahamas.
He has obeyed the biblical directive of "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" -- in other words, leave temporal government matters alone.
He is the only cleric in the Bahamas who lives by the code. And that makes him a man among men.

He is extremely intellectual but does not laud over anyone. He went to seminary in Belgium and this alone is a feat that many clerics here could not accomplish. They have a hard enough time with English.

It would seem to me that anyone who is secure in their religion, as you seem to be, would not be threatened but “others.” In fact they would embrace them. They would live a life of example, not intolerance. They would live a life of inclusion not exclusion or separation.
great story CG
i don't even know why you still trying with this young man / woman
seemingly the tolerance and compassion and respect you experienced is far from what is happening here
when the student is ready the teacher will show up and alas this student is not ready
it is also sad when people speak only of what they believe but have no true commitment to do what is required to make life a better place for all beings
this is why the Christ consciousness is so powerful - one has to open themselves up to experiencing their connectivity to everything and every thing's connectivity to God
you reminded me that i need to be more tolerant even on open forums like this
thank you

As a show of my love (tough sometimes) I must tell you the truth. God showed His great love for us by dying on the cross in our place to pay for the sin of all mankind. Before mankind came on the scene, The Christ was slain before the foundations of the earth for our sakes. So the way that he left us to follow is the only way to life. Jesus was all about the redemption of mankind with the following requirement to be called a brother.
You see God is the separator. He came to send a sword to find out where you stand. If you receive Him you in the family, if not you remain outside.
The only hope for mankind is Jesus!
Who is on the Lord's side?
buuy what you on man - i just talk about me being more being more tolerant of people on this site - man !! you really are something else
God is the separator
- chile where the memba who was offering them free psychiatry services - cuz we ga need (terapy) -thas the new one and sootin releaf after this

great story CG
i don't even know why you still trying with this young man / woman
seemingly the tolerance and compassion and respect you experienced is far from what is happening here
Give Prophet time. The fact that he has not assigned me to hell is a good sign. :)
when the student is ready the teacher will show up and alas this student is not ready
We are all ready, some more ready than others. Some will dismiss wisdom, but it sticks with them and it may come back to them years from now.

Christians believe that God leads them towards wisdom. Maybe God has lead him to BI. There is nothing nicer that when you think you are giving wisdom, only to find you are really receiving it. (Happens to me all the time!)
it is also sad when people speak only of what they believe but have no true commitment to do what is required to make life a better place for all beings
Maybe Prophet is a new Christian - I don’t know, but new (any religion) tends to be intolerant and read their Holy Books with a view to excluding rather than including. This is normal - a new fire burns bright. As the fire ages is settles down to a glow that becomes useful.
this is why the Christ consciousness is so powerful
The Buddha one too! Lol!
- one has to open themselves up to experiencing their connectivity to everything and every thing's connectivity to God
True, but that takes time. We are all part of one body. Every, every problem that bedevils mankind can be traced back to “separatism”
this group, better than that,
this country, better than that one,
this religion better than that other religions,
this race better that the others.

When we see each other as one and the same (as Christ and Buddha did) then we become the compassion that this world so badly needs. When you stand with all mankind you become the Buddha, you become the Christ consciousness.
you reminded me that i need to be more tolerant even on open forums like this thank you

The fact that you see yourself as needing more puts you way ahead of those who think “I is good!”

Give Prophet time. The fact that he has not assigned me to hell is a good sign. :)
We are all ready, some more ready than others. Some will dismiss wisdom, but it sticks with them and it may come back to them years from now.
Christians believe that God leads them towards wisdom. Maybe God has lead him to BI. There is nothing nicer that when you think you are giving wisdom, only to find you are really receiving it. (Happens to me all the time!)
Maybe Prophet is a new Christian - I don’t know, but new (any religion) tends to be intolerant and read their Holy Books with a view to excluding rather than including. This is normal - a new fire burns bright. As the fire ages is settles down to a glow that becomes useful.
The Buddha one too! Lol!
True, but that takes time. We are all part of one body. Every, every problem that bedevils mankind can be traced back to “separatism”
this group, better than that,
this country, better than that one,
this religion better than that other religions,
this race better that the others.
When we see each other as one and the same (as Christ and Buddha did) then we become the compassion that this world so badly needs. When you stand with all mankind you become the Buddha, you become the Christ consciousness.
The fact that you see yourself as needing more puts you way ahead of those who think “I is good!”

very true CG
i too am over zealous to learn at times because i know there is much to be sought and i also know that there is much to be content with

as it relates to enlightenment - i have learned so much while in the process of teaching or what i though was teaching that it was all God - he was meeting every one's need at the same time
and sometimes you do not get it right away - but the seed will bear
best explained by one of your sacred texts

It is as if some man goes into an intimate friend's house, gets drunk, and
falls asleep. Meanwhile his friend, having to go forth on official duty,
ties a priceless jewel within the man's garment as a present, and then
departs. The man, being asleep, knows nothing of this. On arising he
travels onwards till he reaches some other country where, striving for
food and clothing, he labors diligently, undergoes exceeding great
hardship, and is content even if he can obtain but a little. Later, his
friend happens to meet him and speaks thus--"Tut! Sir! How is it you have
come down to this, merely for the sake of food and clothing? Wishing you
to be in comfort and able to satisfy your five senses, I, formerly in such
a year and month and on such a day, tied a price- less jewel within your
garment. Now as of old it is present there, yet you in ignorance are
slaving and worrying to keep yourself alive. How very stupid! Go you now
and exchange that jewel for what you need, and for ever hereafter as you
will, free from poverty and shortage."

Buddhism. Lotus Sutra 8

very true CG
i too am over zealous to learn at times because i know there is much to be sought and i also know that there is much to be content with
as it relates to enlightenment - i have learned so much while in the process of teaching or what i though was teaching that it was all God - he was meeting every one's need at the same time
and sometimes you do not get it right away - but the seed will bear
best explained by one of your sacred texts
It is as if some man goes into an intimate friend's house, gets drunk, and
falls asleep. Meanwhile his friend, having to go forth on official duty,
ties a priceless jewel within the man's garment as a present, and then
departs. The man, being asleep, knows nothing of this. On arising he
travels onwards till he reaches some other country where, striving for
food and clothing, he labors diligently, undergoes exceeding great
hardship, and is content even if he can obtain but a little. Later, his
friend happens to meet him and speaks thus--"Tut! Sir! How is it you have
come down to this, merely for the sake of food and clothing? Wishing you
to be in comfort and able to satisfy your five senses, I, formerly in such
a year and month and on such a day, tied a price- less jewel within your
garment. Now as of old it is present there, yet you in ignorance are
slaving and worrying to keep yourself alive. How very stupid! Go you now
and exchange that jewel for what you need, and for ever hereafter as you
will, free from poverty and shortage."
Buddhism. Lotus Sutra 8
Your quote reminds me of a very important concept in Buddhism. We all have within us the Buddha nature. That nature supples us with all we need. The thing is we are not aware of it. It takes enlightenment to bring it to our attention. The Christ said something similar, “The Kingdom of heaven is with in you.” Christ spent most of his mission trying to awaken people to that fact.

We all have everything we need to go through life and beyond but we are not always awakened to it. Christ, the Buddha and other simply try to awaken in us the nature that is already there. Once awakened, or enlightened, our potential is limitless, our compassion - limitless. Heaven? (or the after-life) With in reach. Because we do what need to be done, not with prompting but as our nature dictates. :)

Sorry, but that is incorrect. Jesus was talking about the revelation knowledge given by God to Peter that He was the Christ. Christ said that He will build His church. The body of Christ is The Church not some religious orginization or denomination. God knows the difference between an apostle and a pope. That's why you don't find pope in the bible. It's impossible for Peter who was filled with the Holy Ghost and knew Jesus to start a religion contrary to His teachings. You don't have to be spiritual to understand that, just use some common sense.
Question? Who determines whether you have atained sainthood?

Who said that christ wasnt the church, you misunderstood wat i said.

You'all know where I stand on religion. But I will say this -- the most stand-up cleric in the Bahamas is Archbishop Patrick Pinder.
He never has a political opinion. He stays out of the limelight. He is not rich. He is a quiet, well-spoken erudite man who does not yell sermons at his audience. He has never sought public funds as committee members, like the ArchHomophone Gomez who sucked at the teats of the public purse for 5 years or any of those other clerics who asked for political appointments. He doesn't sweetheart. He gives charitably and tries to leave everywhere a better place where his footsteps land. You cannot say that about any other cleric in the Bahamas.
He has obeyed the biblical directive of "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" -- in other words, leave temporal government matters alone.
He is the only cleric in the Bahamas who lives by the code. And that makes him a man among men.I have forward this comment to the archbishop....

He is extremely intellectual but does not laud over anyone. He went to seminary in Belgium and this alone is a feat that many clerics here could not accomplish. They have a hard enough time with English.

Archbishop Pinder is a unique religious leader and we're blessed to have him leading the Archdiocese of the Nassau. Theres no need to have him get involved in matters of state to the point where he sounds like he's running for a political office like some of our religious leaders. He is very articulated and intelligent, I dear say one of the most intelligent religious leaders in this country, but then again its hard to find hardly any Roman Catholic priests who aren't educated men, especially here in the Bahamas. Priests such as Monsignors Moss, Culmer, Roberts, Johnson, Fathers Cooper, Gomes, Kenny, Kelly, Turnquest and others and don't forget the Roman Catholic Deacons such as Deacons Rahming, Lloyd, Bethel etc. The Roman Catholic Bench is deep. But then again the one true, holy, catholic and apostolic church should have a deep bench.

Archbishop Pinder is a unique religious leader and we're blessed to have him leading the Archdiocese of the Nassau. Theres no need to have him get involved in matters of state to the point where he sounds like he's running for a political office like some of our religious leaders. He is very articulated and intelligent, I dear say one of the most intelligent religious leaders in this country, but then again its hard to find hardly any Roman Catholic priests who aren't educated men, especially here in the Bahamas. Priests such as Monsignors Moss, Culmer, Roberts, Johnson, Fathers Cooper, Gomes, Kenny, Kelly, Turnquest and others and don't forget the Roman Catholic Deacons such as Deacons Rahming, Lloyd, Bethel etc. The Roman Catholic Bench is deep. But then again the one true, holy, catholic and apostolic church should have a deep bench.I ga tell Fr. Nixon and McKinnon and the rest that you called dem dumb....

I ga tell Fr. Nixon and McKinnon and the rest that you called dem dumb....
lol...

I ga tell Fr. Nixon....

As in Fr. Glenn Nixon? Is he still assigned to someplace in Nassau? Where?
I haven't had contact with him in years.

As in Fr. Glenn Nixon? Is he still assigned to someplace in Nassau? Where?
I haven't had contact with him in years.
He said mass on Sunday at St. Paul's but I'm not sure which Parish he is normally at.

He's usually at the Cathederal. ( Had to ask)

Hippo,
I am pro Jesus the Christ. I've received him as my Lord and Saviour. I am a Jesus Freak! Does that make me perfect? In my flesh no, but in Him Yes!
So, have you received him?
A good Roman Catholic would reply that they receive Jesus every time that they partake of the Eucharist. Jesus is sacrificed again for the sins of the world during the consecration of the Host by the priest during the ceremony of the Eucharist. It is the holiest part of the mass. The faithful then receive Jesus in the blood and body of holy communion for the remission of their sins. The RC church dispenses salvation through the sacraments of the church, of which holy communion is but one of seven. She is referred to many times in both the old and new testaments.