It is a safe bet because I cannot lose and you cannot win! I cannot win and you cannot lose! :cool:

First of all you say "I cannot say that John is going to hell." but then you say, "But I guarantee that he is not going to heaven." So, there is a third place? (Unless you are talking about Purgatory.)

The Late Pope followed his beliefs, which he held to be true, with all sincerity. You follow your beliefs, which you hold to be true, with all sincerity. I am sure that both of you could bring mountains of documents to prove your respective positions.

Is the Pope in heaven? Will you find your place there when your time comes? Is there a heaven? All these questions will be ultimately answered when ones last breath is drawn, and not before. The Pope now "knows." That puts him one up on us all.



Once again CG wise words.

Teniel you are right. I cannot say that john is going to hell. BUT I GUARRANTEE THAT HE IS NOT GOING TO HEAVEN. Any one wants to bet their white robe or golden slippers on that one!!



So who are your connections to the after life, becasue it sounds like you have some very privied information. YOU CANNOT EVEN MAKE A GUARANTEE ABOUT TOMORROW AND WHETHER YOU SHALL BE AROUND TO SEE IT, so how can you make a guarantee about where the Pope is or is not following his death. No mortal can or should make that judgement.

Link.....you gave some insight into what the term Father means, thank you. But you did not answer my question as to, should you call the man who helped produce you, Father? and if not, why do so many people do it? And do you do it?
I find it interesting that you can determine who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. Do you know where 2Pac went? I always wonder that to myself.....And can you tell me how you gained the power to see into the next realm? I'd like to learn that techinique.
I simply wish that a person is granted mercy at their time of death and finds peace when they die. I don't wish anyone ends up in hell. That was downright a cruel thing to say.

In other news, it has been reported that the Easter Bunny was struck and killed in a hit-and-run accident earlier today. It is alleged that Santa Claus was involved in the incident. No word yet on who will replace the loveable floppy-eared furry friend, but many predict that Bambi's friend Thumper, and Bugs are both in the runnings.

Most experts agree though, that no matter what the outcome, sex with little boys is good, Condoms are bad, and AIDs isn't something to be concerned about.

Don't forget Bugs is a crossdresser. LOL :cutie:

Following the pope's funeral on Friday April 8th, preparation shall be made to select his successor, in the papal conclave. Vatican experts predict that the next pope shall come from a developed country, either Latin America or Africa. Cardianal Arinze of Nigeria is getting alot of press as Pope John Paul's possible successor. I think we can all bet that the next Pope wont be American, and not likely to be another Italian (they had dominated the papacy before John Paul's appointment as the first Pole to be elected to the papacy). Let me say that it would be great to have a pope from Africa, a continent that has been desperate for global attention for so long. I think such an appointment would be an upliftment for Africans in particular Black Africans. I think his appointment would also put much needed attention on the AIDS crisis in Africa. Do you guys think that history can be made, with the first black pope? As well do you think the Caribbean will ever have someone who can possibly be considered for the papacy. At present we have no Cardinals in the Carribbean, but in the future it could be possible.


That would be history and I think it would be good to have a black Pope.
But I have my doubts. But how about a woman to be Pope??
I just hope that who ever is elected is a kind and just person.

I fully agree with you Baboon. Finally the Pope is going home to see his father: SATAN. The trinity for Catholics is Satan Santa and the POPE. Notice how they even dressed him in red like satan and santa. I God is truly merciful then the Pope will only burn in hell for one eternity.
God is a jealous God. Yet the christians see no wrong in calling the pope holy father. By the way Pope means father. Jesus clearly said call no man father because one is your father that is God in heaven.

No love lost for the Catholic Church or the Pope. But that is a hit below the belt. I do believe he mean’t well even if some of what he taught was against what I believe. My hope is that he will find forgiveness for anything he might have done wrong. I hope this for all humanity, this world has its troubles and we have to live with them.

BUT I GUARRANTEE THAT HE IS NOT GOING TO HEAVEN.

I must have missed something here, Lincolin is the Creator? Because only the Creator can know that.

Interesting comments.
However, the Trinity for Catholics is the same as any other Christian faith...The Father, Son & Holy Spirit.

How about The Big Daddy J.C. and the coolist spook?

That would be history and I think it would be good to have a black Pope.
But I have my doubts. But how about a woman to be Pope??
I just hope that who ever is elected is a kind and just person.
:jawdroop: A black pope.This stand as much chance of happin as oh lets say a jew startin the papacy :)

Okay, so I guess this is the point where I am supposed to laugh at the Baboon. :confused:

Nope...Baboon was trying to make a point...who gives a flying leap who becomes pope...Most people in the Bahamas are Baptist...I think we need to stick on issues that really concerns us...

I fully agree with you Baboon. Finally the Pope is going home to see his father: SATAN. The trinity for Catholics is Satan Santa and the POPE. Notice how they even dressed him in red like satan and santa. I God is truly merciful then the Pope will only burn in hell for one eternity.
God is a jealous God. Yet the christians see no wrong in calling the pope holy father. By the way Pope means father. Jesus clearly said call no man father because one is your father that is God in heaven.

Man you harsh...Remember that the Catholics were the first organized religions...all other organized religions spring forth from its follies...

I am not Catholic either but I find all of this interesting. The late Pope was a world figure and leader of over a billion Catholics. He can't be avoided on the world scene. Now, as for the "new guy" only time will tell. I find that interesting.

There are a numbe of so called world figures...that I don't give a flying hoopla about too...

I do agree that their staunch conservativeness, doesnt help the real siituation that the world and many people are facing, like AIDS in Africa. BUt something good has to come of the next pope coming from that Continent. Like saying putting a spotlight on the genocides going on in that country.

a black pope....hmmm interesting...the questions should have been, can the world follow and accept a black pope...

Can sum1 please explain to me how in the world Simon Peter who was an Apostle of Christ & also a Jew ever became a Pope of the Catholic Church?How in the world can the Roman Catholics say with a straight face that they are affiliated with the apostles is beyond me.

They just claimed him, like how we as black people claim Tiger Woods and Bill Clinton....

That all swings, primarily, on one Bible passage, Matthew 16:18

"He saith unto them, But who say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. "And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father who is in heaven. And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it."

The Catholics say Peter was the rock. Protestants say that the words Peter spoke was the rock. I guess that all one can do is read the words and come to ones own conclusion.

However, the next verse has Jesus saying: "I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Sounds to me like the starting of an organization, with Peter as the head? Could be! Was Jesus talking to Peter here? The Catholics say yes. Protestants say no.

It is so amusing that the organized Catholic religion came years after Peter's death...The question should be Did Peter know that he was Catholic and that he would have been the first Pope...